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PornoMonster 11-23-2012 03:49 PM

Ok check this.

Walmart pays MORE than Min wage.
They have Quartly Profit Sharing. This depends on your store but the one that a friend works at she makes $1,200 - $2,200 a year Extra
You get a 10% discount on Items
They match your 401K
Health Benifits 80% covered
after 20 years you get 20% discount for Life.
Most employees are not working to hard...

Seems fairly good to me since they already start at more than Min wage!

PornoMonster 11-23-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nasty (Post 19329515)
One of my sons has worked at walmart for over a year while he is going to school. Most hours he gets is 32 and even with the 95% profit share / bonuses he gets quarterly, he still qualifies for aid and is considered near poverty level. They cut almost everyone's hours last month to 24 a week so they would have enough in the budget budget to pay overtime this month. Now he is working crazy hours that will continue until new years. fuck walmart

So a company cuts hours, because there isn't enough work, then works them overtime when there is, and you have a problem with this? The Company should just pay set hours even if there isn't enough work?? But now the employee is making 1.5 X for the extra hours worked... Man I tell you...

Get USE to this cutting of hours. Kroger is Hiring like crazy and cutting peoples hours so they do not have to pay health care... Thanks Obama!

DBS.US 11-23-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19329517)
Ok check this.


They match your 401K

after 20 years you get 20% discount for Life.

They match your 401K, How much match 100%?
After 20 years you get 20% discount for Life. Dam, 20% off a Walmart price is dam low!

tedwinters 11-23-2012 03:58 PM

2 competing problems... Competitive advantage and globalization.

Basically, globalization drives down the price people are willing to pay for manufactured goods - shipping those low paying, non-technical jobs overseas where wages are lower. Forcing workers currntly employed in those jobs elsewhere.
If a country had a strong competitive advantage in certain sectors/economies, (eg: China/India has labour, Canada has natural resources, America *used* to have science and technology), then jobs should flow into those economies producing more goods and services in which it has a natural advantage in, allowing trade for the cheaper goods.

This ideally generates jobs in higher paying sectors, driving up average pay elsewhere.

The problem stems from losing your competitive advantage.... You can't just 'raise wages' without people having to pay more... And if you suddenly have to pay more for your goods, you'll find other ways to buy them... (EG: with globalization increasing, you'll order your new clothes straight from china, rather than off the shelf in walmart, you'll get your gadgets from dealextreme rather than bestbuy/circuitcity..)

it's a downward spiral to just try and 'raise wages', you need to fix the economy by focusing on areas in which your country/county/state has a natural competitive advantage in.

tony286 11-23-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19329524)
So a company cuts hours, because there isn't enough work, then works them overtime when there is, and you have a problem with this? The Company should just pay set hours even if there isn't enough work?? But now the employee is making 1.5 X for the extra hours worked... Man I tell you...

Get USE to this cutting of hours. Kroger is Hiring like crazy and cutting peoples hours so they do not have to pay health care... Thanks Obama!

lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

tony286 11-23-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tedwinters (Post 19329533)
2 competing problems... Competitive advantage and globalization.

Basically, globalization drives down the price people are willing to pay for manufactured goods - shipping those low paying, non-technical jobs overseas where wages are lower. Forcing workers currntly employed in those jobs elsewhere.
If a country had a strong competitive advantage in certain sectors/economies, (eg: China/India has labour, Canada has natural resources, America *used* to have science and technology), then jobs should flow into those economies producing more goods and services in which it has a natural advantage in, allowing trade for the cheaper goods.

This ideally generates jobs in higher paying sectors, driving up average pay elsewhere.

The problem stems from losing your competitive advantage.... You can't just 'raise wages' without people having to pay more... And if you suddenly have to pay more for your goods, you'll find other ways to buy them... (EG: with globalization increasing, you'll order your new clothes straight from china, rather than off the shelf in walmart, you'll get your gadgets from dealextreme rather than bestbuy/circuitcity..)

it's a downward spiral to just try and 'raise wages', you need to fix the economy by focusing on areas in which your country/county/state has a natural competitive advantage in.

Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

mineistaken 11-23-2012 04:16 PM

Is it safe to say that average wallmart employee is not very bright when it comes to matters of how business and economy works?

tony286 11-23-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19329563)
Is it safe to say that average wallmart employee is not very bright when it comes to matters of how business and economy works?

Really how is that? When the costco employee can be paid a living wage.

epitome 11-23-2012 04:26 PM

LOL at people wanting it both ways. You are fine with companies not paying a living wage but are then appalled when people not making a living wage need supplemental government assistance.

There is a huge different between minimum wage and a living wage. In some areas a living wage is more than twice the minimum wage.

epitome 11-23-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329574)
Really how is that? When the costco employee can be paid a living wage.

The same could be said for a forklift operator or laborer making $16/hr.

Edit: whoops that was supposed to be a reply to mineistaken.

Barry-xlovecam 11-23-2012 04:42 PM

Walmart offers such good medical benefits too ... :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

Quote:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/10/...nefits-always/
[H]enceforth, Walmart will subsidize employee health-care costs by just $250 (and remember, that's $250 that has to last the entire year); benefits for family members will be cut to $500. Employees who've seen details of the plan say that in some cases, the deductible alone on Walmart's new plan (i.e. the amount that comes out of pocket before insurance even kicks in) could amount to 20% of a worker's annual pay. ...
Some of the other 'big-box' discount stores offer little better -- why should they when their biggest competitor pays less and less?



Captain Kawaii 11-23-2012 05:35 PM

Walmart is reporting biggest black thursday/friday ever...

tedwinters 11-23-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329554)
Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Well there's your answer... If people are willing to pay 30 cents more, then they'll start shopping at Border's, linens 'n' things, circuit city, etc....
Better service, higher class of people, less lineups...

tony286 11-23-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tedwinters (Post 19329663)
Well there's your answer... If people are willing to pay 30 cents more, then they'll start shopping at Border's, linens 'n' things, circuit city, etc....
Better service, higher class of people, less lineups...

borders was cheaper than barnes and noble but had awful management. There is more to running a company than fucking employees.

PornoMonster 11-23-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 19329526)
They match your 401K, How much match 100%?
After 20 years you get 20% discount for Life. Dam, 20% off a Walmart price is dam low!

It is 100%, but up to what amount the person did not know...

Yes, after 20 years of "service" to walmart you are what they call vested, and get 20% the rest of your life. I believe that is even off Sale and clearance things..

Should Walmart be starting at $10-$12 yes, I believe a company of this magnitude should be able to...

PornoMonster 11-23-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329548)
lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

Well, Kinda like sales on the adult sites.. Should manwin cover my Low months???? HAHA

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-23-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19328976)
walmart transfers their daily revenue OUT of your city

At which point the Waltons transfer it to Chinese banks where they also conveniently run slave mills.

beemk 11-23-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19329003)
As our nations largest retailer and employer walmart sets the wage level. And they have set it so taxpayers pick up the slack. And thinking better jobs are available in small towns that have seen most small businesses close in walmarts wake is wishful thinking.

You must not know how supply and demand works.

beemk 11-23-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19329063)
You are talking about exceptions to the rule, not the norm. Are you telling me that the tens of thousands, probably even hundreds of thousands, of people working at Walmart are incapable of learning new skills and becoming more productive people, not just at work but also in society?

Walmart employes like 4 million people. Twice as much as the second largest employer in the country.

Barry-xlovecam 11-23-2012 09:32 PM

Walmart won out in this -- it seems to be a few hundred of their 1.4 million US employees walked off their jobs today. So, I suppose that their workers accept the conditions of their employment.

Walmart employees are just doing the best they can and I am fortunate I am not one of them ...

GrantMercury 11-23-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19329323)
Rochard, I'm not talking about someone else's life or dream. I'm talking about why my tax dollars, and yours, should help underwrite the lives of those being employed by the nations largest employer.

.

Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net...9690888993.jpg

GrantMercury 11-23-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329548)
lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

Well, according to Republicans, millions of WalMart workers are just supposed to walk away and find millions of better paying jobs. :1orglaugh

GrantMercury 11-23-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329554)
Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Ex-fucking-actly.

EliteWebmaster 11-23-2012 10:45 PM

Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

epitome 11-23-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 19329930)
Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

Yes. They also spy on their employees and make life difficult for anyone that suggests unionizing.

GrantMercury 11-23-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 19329730)
You must not know how supply and demand works.

It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer. That problem can be addressed legislatively. If We The People decide the status quo is an outrage, we can change it. The country is here for the people. The people make the rules. Not the corporations. The problem is we've forgotten that. We're half asleep. We can MAKE WalMart cover health insurance. We can MAKE them pay higher wages by raising the minimum wage.

WE decide the rules. If a company is going to do business in America (and they DO want to) then they should be required to pay their employees a livable wage. If they can't afford to, then they can't afford to be in business. (WalMart can So afford to).

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DTK 11-23-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19329164)
By the way, to immediately decide that a striking person is because of Obama is... well I won't even say what it is.

I will. Colossally ignorant and reeking of....

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baddog 11-23-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329464)
Being melodramatic? Try living on $9 on hr and no insurance because someone around our age working at walmart are basically fucked if thats all they can get. Alot of those people would of been the people working at the plant making a decent living. And thats gone.

That's more than minimum wage.
Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329554)
Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Whoa, your right of entitlement and distribution of wealth ideals remind me of someone half your age.

DTK 11-23-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19329942)
It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer.

This is what so many people miss. Especially those who are locked into the right-wing media bubble.

I have no problem with success. I applaud it wholeheartedly.

What I have a problem with is excessive greed. If you add up the Walton heirs' combined net worth, it's approaching nearly $100 Billion, yet most of their employees live in near-poverty. To quote a movie line: "How many yachts can you water ski behind?" They could pony up a mere 2% of their wealth and provide health benefits (not to mention a little bit better wage) to all their employees, but no....

The Walton heirs also spend a lot of money perpetuating the lie that Trickle Down/Supply Side economics actually works, when it's been proven that it actually doesn't. But hey, it lets them keep more money while treating their rank-and-file workers like glorified serfs, so go for it...i guess.

baddog 11-24-2012 12:00 AM

Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

astronaut x 11-24-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19328697)
Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57% :2 cents:

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

For a such smart guy, you certainly lack the common sense with this subject.

astronaut x 11-24-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19329981)
Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

Jesus fucking christ you are retarded.

Fuck, its useless to argue with you so I will just call you a fucking retard and go about my day.

astronaut x 11-24-2012 12:47 AM

In 2004.... One Wal-Mart store with 200 “associates” costs taxpayers over $420,000 per year in government assistance to the poor.

Don't even get me started on the millions in cash incentives they receive from local governments to open new stores. In many cases they are given the land to build on and the city hooks them up for free with water, sewer, etc... all paid by you. The American taxpayer. They also receive millions a year in cash incentives to keep the stores they build, where they are.

They have already put the mom and pops out of business.

Do I really need to mention anything about the chinese?

Holy fuck some of you are stupid as shit on this subject.

astronaut x 11-24-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 19329930)
Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

I don't know did they? do some fucking research. 3/4 of the people on this board don't know shit. Unless you are currently sober, he knows all about shit.

astronaut x 11-24-2012 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19329905)
Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net...9690888993.jpg

This morning I ran out of toilet paper. I thought to myself... where the fuck can i get toilet paper to wipe my ass with at 1am? Fuck I dont want to go to walmart. But that was the only place available. At the moment there are no alternatives. I could have wodded up a piece of paper and get all the starch out of it, but Ive grown accustomed to soft delicate paper to wipe my anus clean.

More proof walmart owns my ass.

astronaut x 11-24-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19329866)
Walmart won out in this -- it seems to be a few hundred of their 1.4 million US employees walked off their jobs today. So, I suppose that their workers accept the conditions of their employment.

Walmart employees are just doing the best they can and I am fortunate I am not one of them ...

Walmart employees are pussies.

These guys took over the factories and used GM products to build weapons.



DTK 11-24-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19329981)
Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

Were you asking anyone specifically?

astronaut x 11-24-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 19329732)
Walmart employes like 4 million people. Twice as much as the second largest employer in the country.

They are the largest employer in the world. They set the standards on pay.
If they are forced to raise wages, other big box retailers would have to follow suit in order to compete.

Meanwhile, walmart accepts corporate welfare in numerous ways and china is polluting the world and growing stronger.

The only way for Americans to really compete at this point in manufacturing, is flood the prison system with low waged workers for .50 and hour.

If companies like Unicor have their way, that's where we are headed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries

astronaut x 11-24-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19329457)
Facts arent biased You fund Walmart thru your tax dollars. They move in, they a get big tax break guess who pays for that? you. Those people who work for them make no money, have no insurance get sick and go to the hospital who pays for it? You They dont make enough for housing who pays for it again? you. Meanwhile Walmart makes 16 billion and you defend them for fucking you. lol They pay their people shit ,the plant is closed you got a family to feed or you're a single mom or not college smart. So you work at walmart, they dont give you full time. Once someone is in that hole they rarely get out because the hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

good post :thumbsup

astronaut x 11-24-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19328540)
I turn on the local news and see that walmart workers are striking in Milwaukee this morning.. These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

I am going to laugh when they all lose their jobs. Don't they know how easy it is to replace them?

Merry Christmas Walmart employees.

I have a Christmas present for you, its a box and your mind is in it.


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