Your logic has many flaws and you fail to see the bigger economic picture.

putting walmart out of business would throw the economy into a great depression.

Walmart could do there part to the grow the middle class. Everyone else in America is taking pay cuts but the waltons just keep raking in the dough at the expense of us taxpayers.

all thanks to walmart.

:Oh crap :Oh crap

Anyone here operate a business
 

If you did, you would do everything you could to cut costs. (Sorry if this was brought up but I got nauseous on the first page with the bleeding heart crap)

How many go off shore to save on taxes that would help the plight of these distraught workers? (catch the sarcasm)

You people are pathetic. You want the government out of "our business" but you want it here.

Be thankful that most of these people are actually working. Check out the demographics of the employees before you start crying foul. I think I read somewhere that most Walmart employees have a job, not a career. Think about it.

this is what is destroying my 3rd world shit hole country completely...so sad to see the USA going the same way....

Another of the GFY simpletons with an opinion and nothing to back it up.

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it, they are embolden. Yet they forget that it's business that has the cash. Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays.

Here is a short list of where the Obama/democrat campaign funds come from. Do you see the pattern. The top number over every contributor is to the democrats. The lower to the republicans.

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Dem - $40,281,900
Rep - $547,700


Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Dem - 29,705,600
Reb - 679,000


National Education Association
27,679,300
2,005,200


Service Employees International Union
26,368,470
98,700


Communication Workers of America
26,305,500
125,300


Service Employees International Union
26,252,000
1,086,200


Laborers Union
25,734,000
138,000


American Federation of Teachers
25,682,800
200,000


United Auto Workers
25,082,200
182,700


Teamsters Union
24,926,400
1,822,000


Carpenters and Joiners Union
24,094,100
658,000


Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
23,875,600
226,300


United Food and Commercial Workers Union
23,182,000
334,200


AFL-CIO
17,124,300
713,500


Sheet Metal Workers Union
16,347,200
342,800


Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
14,790,000
818,500


Operating Engineers Union
13,840,000
2,309,500


Airline Pilots Association
12,806,600
2,398,300


International Association of Firefighters
12,421,700
2,685,400


United Transportation Workers
11,807,000
1,459,300


Ironworkers Union
11,638,900
936,000


American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300


Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
8,135,400
2,294,600


Seafarers International Union
6,726,800
1,281,300

How exactly is 3-4% annual profits "enormous"?

"Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays."

And that doesn't seem wrong to you? They were doubling their salary while wanting to cut the workers wages in half. They didn't care about the company and while unions have become corrupt themselves, without them they probably would of just fired everyone and hired new people at 10 bucks an hour. It seems if the majority of companies had their way, we'd be going back to the industrial revolution working conditions.

Of course its seems wrong. Typical union bluster in its usual "us against them" fashion. Union member go hungry? Really? Not a very good reason to join a union. Obviously absurd and there's a reason unions are dying in the USA... why follow this sort of stupidity?

because otherwise those at the top will double their salary while cutting the workers wages in half. unions have largely lost their way and some people think that the jolly good ceo's and such would treat their workers fairly without them but history has shown otherwise and it seems to be happening again.

Uhm... sounds like you made that up. Completely.

See, that's the problem. "Fairly". You and unions have to rely on ambiguous and gray concepts like "fair" because that way, goals can never be reached and the fight will always be there.

There is no such thing as "fair" just like the usual BS of taxes and "paying your fair share". No one can define "fair". There is no universal understanding of "fair" as its a subjective concept, forged in ones own personal lack of intelligence, reason and accountability.

The power of unions lies in the rhetoric of "unfair". Thats all they talk about. Everything is "unfair" until a new contract is signed. By the time that contract is concluded and its time to negotiate a new contract, everything, not surprisingly becomes "unfair" again.

Unions are cancer. They are not about fair. They are about taking money and power from the weak. They are about the weak being manipulated into believing everything is constantly "unfair". A message that the uneducated and unskilled are eager to buy.

I have a lot of family that are union members and growing up, I got to watch everyone discuss about how everything was "unfair" while at the same time, they were ALL (all their friends) doing everything they could to rip off job sites, steal tools and all while arguing non stop about how they should be doing as little as humanly possible for the greatest possible pay.

So i guess you believe that workers don't deserve any rights and if they don't like it, they should just quit. it must be nice living in your black and white world where everything is so simple and easy.

"Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m while preparing to file bankruptcy"

"And a number of top executives reportedly saw massive pay raises, some nearly doubling their salary."

and i was wrong, they only wanted the workers to take a 30% wage cut.

the unions are hitting these companies at the worst of times. :2 cents:

it all depends how you view things, you view this as malice/greed...

all while there is a logical explanation: no one wants to be in charge of a sinking ship, so the company has to pay more to keep the management around... same supply/demand concept that applies to the low level workers... :2 cents:

before calling others stupid you should look at yourself... even if government hooks them up they don't do it out of a good faith, there's obviously huge benefit to local government and community... government never does anything for nothing

I would like to see what mom and pop stores pay compared to walmart. Either way if walmart is paying above minimum wage isn't it the gov's fault for not having the minimum wage higher? I have some employees that I pay maybe 25% higher than walmart pays theirs. To find those employees I hired and fired 10 or so for each good employee I found. I believe that the people walmart hires probably arent smart or competant enough to get higher paying more skilled jobs anywhere else. You guys should be happy that walmart provides so many people with jobs. They employ 1% of the country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay

I'm talking about unions. I'm not talking about Hostess or any single example of anything to illustrate a point. And it how retarded Hostess management and labor are, doesn't change anything I said. The company is obviously poorly run. Unions demanding more of anything isn't going to make it a successful company when its always in financial trouble and dying.

We live in a capitalist economy. Its not always perfect. But pointing out rare imperfections and exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean its "broken". It means that like all things which are man made, its imperfect. The USA is an economic powerhouse because on the whole, it seems to work pretty good.

No where in the world does a poor person feel that everything is "fair".
No where in the world does a poor person accept responsibility for being poor.

Wal Mart replaced a business that had closed. When the "Family owned Rainedbow Market" closed down we were all disappointed and said "It's because of the economy".

The "Rainbow Market" was the anchor of the complex, and within month the two other businesses in the complex also shut down - Taco Bell and a another restaurant. Our best hope was that someone - anyone - would open up a new business there.

Now we have Wal Mart which has three times as many employees as the Rainbow Market. Wal Mart doesn't have health benefits? Well, the employees at the Rainbow Market didn't have health benefits either.

Would your son had made more money working at Burger King?

When I was a kid I worked four jobs and I didn't have health benefits.

McDonalds is the second largest employer in the US. How many of them have health benefits?

Holy cow you are a sore loser. You see everything through politics.

Your party gave us a candidate with a 25% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. You lost.

However you want to look at it. This is how it works. The 1% never lose.

You are funny its the bakers fault not the douchebag management that were taking 70 to 100 percent raises. You have to come up with a new straw man unions make up less than 7 percent of the work force. May old Obama won because he had better ideas then the same tried bullshit your side has been pedaling for years.

I've said before, It doesn't make any difference to my lifestyle who sits in the Whitehouse.So you can save your sore loser nonsense.

Whether you want to accept it or not, I do care about the people that work for us. I also care about people that have lost their homes due to the recession. And for those people it can't and won't improve with this anti-business attitude.

This is the problem with the direction of the nation. Its falling apart because "suck it up", "bust your ass", "learn" and "keep striving for something better" and "be successful" have long since been replaced with "hope and change" and "who's gonna give it to me?" and "what do you mean I can't rap??? - you don't know me!"

You're supposed to get a job digging ditches at 18. You're supposed to have 3 room mates, You're supposed to learn the value of hard work, of sacrifice and money. Your'e supposed to learn a strong work ethic. From that, you're supposed to want more, you're supposed to want to better yourself, educate yourself, improve your skills and to work for the things you want... not sit back and demand them as you do as little as humanly possible. You're not supposed to aspire to make $9.00 an hour as a grown adult and then bitch that life is unfair. The degree to which this nation has been dumbed down is astounding.

We are talking about an entry level job. You are surprised that the least skilled part of our work force is below the average? Even if they raise their wage and it trickles through society, they will still be on the bottom and thus low paid workers. People who take these jobs need the subsidies to go to school or train for better jobs that they then move to.

Being a "greeter" was never meant to be life time employment.

You mean the "management" that gave themselves raises with the approval of the board of directors and shareholders?

Seems quite a few felt there was merit to it? I mean, its not like its a decision thats unilaterally made by a single individual as many attempt to make it sound.

You will be affected Tony. Not me.
If you think Obama has your back, good luck with that.

QFT :thumbsup

The shareholders are not involved in pay raises and the board has a tendency to rubber stamp that stuff. It was a dumb move and it is ok to say it was.

You live on $9 a hr and get back to me.lol
No bad dog you see I actually sell a product. My main customers are middle class, that crowd keeps shrinking there will be no one to buy my products.
Its not entitlement, you want to live in a third world country were there is only ultra rich and poor? Henry Ford did it and he boomed.Costco pays a good wage and they arent out of business. And you pay for walmart's low wages, is that so hard to understand?
Its not a matter of being liberal, its a matter of looking at the future at this country. This is the first kids wont do better than their parents that's not Obama's fault this has been brewing for 30 yrs. If it wasnt for cheap credit the middle class would of realized alot sooner their wages have been flat for a long long time.

Dude you dont know shit. I dont think any president has my back. I dont make big campaign contributions. lol

Yep and that was before a time ,you got laid off at 50 because it made for a better balance sheet. Actually there are people that make shit that work harder than you could ever imagine and they want nothing but a fair chance. This myth oh they make 9 dollars an hour they must be lazy. There are people that bust their ass for close to nothing and they are always in a hole.

http://www.amazon.com/Nickel-Dimed-N.../dp/0312626681
The Squealer read this book and get back to me. Then tell me about the lazy people making close to nothing.

And you and ilk are that naive to think that striking and screwing with the people who do provide jobs is going to help their cause. Now it's my turn to LOL... and again good luck with that plan.

He has a huge factory and a lambo. He has to know something lol

As for the Wal_Mart workers, they can be easily replaced. Never strike if you can be easily replaced, just look for a different job :2 cents:

I'm curious Tony…

I have seen you complain many times about jobs going overseas. What do you think happens in the owners, and shareholders minds, when a workforce starts talking about strikes?

Egalitarianism
 

He knows shit about me and what affects me. I dont doubt or take away from his success. He tells us how well he treats his workers so it baffles me when he sticks to the same tired right wing talking points when that's not him.