Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19330249)

Another of the GFY simpletons with an opinion and nothing to back it up.

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it, they are embolden. Yet they forget that it's business that has the cash. Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays.

Here is a short list of where the Obama/democrat campaign funds come from. Do you see the pattern. The top number over every contributor is to the democrats. The lower to the republicans.

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Dem - $40,281,900
Rep - $547,700


Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Dem - 29,705,600
Reb - 679,000


National Education Association
27,679,300
2,005,200


Service Employees International Union
26,368,470
98,700


Communication Workers of America
26,305,500
125,300


Service Employees International Union
26,252,000
1,086,200


Laborers Union
25,734,000
138,000


American Federation of Teachers
25,682,800
200,000


United Auto Workers
25,082,200
182,700


Teamsters Union
24,926,400
1,822,000


Carpenters and Joiners Union
24,094,100
658,000


Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
23,875,600
226,300


United Food and Commercial Workers Union
23,182,000
334,200


AFL-CIO
17,124,300
713,500


Sheet Metal Workers Union
16,347,200
342,800


Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
14,790,000
818,500


Operating Engineers Union
13,840,000
2,309,500


Airline Pilots Association
12,806,600
2,398,300


International Association of Firefighters
12,421,700
2,685,400


United Transportation Workers
11,807,000
1,459,300


Ironworkers Union
11,638,900
936,000


American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300


Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
8,135,400
2,294,600


Seafarers International Union
6,726,800
1,281,300

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19330579)

unions were the ones who got these laws in place. without them, would they slowly be eroded? the financial industry is constantly trying to remove laws that protect consumers, i don't doubt the same could apply here. there needs to be some kind of middle or balance in the power struggle between owners and workers. maybe the money equation needs to be taken out of unions or something completely different needs to be set up.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19330626)

I think the bakers themselves would have rather taken a pay cut than have the union bosses negotiate them out of a job completely.

Something is always better than nothing in the real world.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19330671)

This in turn means they would have to work for the people not the corporations & special interest groups as they do today.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19330690)

actually no read the story.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19330697)

Okay, I read that biased story. It certainly tells the sordid tale from the anti-business perspective.

But it still doesn't address what I said:
I think the bakers would rather have taken a pay cut than to have their union bosses fuck up the negotiations and find themselves UNEMPLOYED in a horrible economy.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19330703)

Actually heard interviews of a few of them and they said they were tired of getting fucked. They didnt use the word fucked.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 19330624)

Facts? and what facts do you have? You are just posting numbers you copied from somewhere. what the fuck does that prove?

Nothing.

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19330490)

The false sense of bravado and security the unions have with the reelection of Obama will do nothing positive for workers. It will only cost them more jobs,as we've already seen.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19330695)

Thing is, I'm not even sure who the "people" are anymore.

Is it me? Is it you? Is it gang members? Is it the religious right (who can turn out their vote without any "big money" needed)?

What you're saying is that people would actually have to give a damn and get out and vote.

And what if the "99%" voted to nationalize everything and take all the money from the greedy 1%?

Not saying that would happen, just being theoretical.

Would that really be a good thing? Or would the majority of the "99%" prove or disprove that they belonged in the lower rungs? In other words would they run the whole thing into the ground?

I guess it couldn't be a whole lot worse than the corruption, greed, and crazy ass deficit spending that goes on in Washington D.C. today.

My feeling is that would be step one: Vote out EVERYONE. Let real citizens start serving in Congress and The Senate like it was originally intended. Not just rich lawyers.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19330792)

What's weird is people in Congress don't even get paid all that much. If a person manages to get in and not have a high net worth they sure do seem to have one a few years after getting out.

It's not supposed to be that way. You are supposed to serve for the honor of serving.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19329279)

This is the 49th post and I'm still trying to figure out what Obama has to do with strikes since they existed long before him.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19330884)

They make an average of $175k a year, which is a fair amount - more than the average. And this is why only multi millionaires do it. There was a story about one Congressman from some small state who was only paid $75k a year... Not a bad salary until you factor in he owns a home back in his home state and needs to pay for a house in Washington DC. To save money, he slept in his office.

Originally Posted by Freedom6995 (Post 19331032)

he's black...kinda, nah mean?