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no in lybia/afghanstan/syria/irak |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers |
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I vote we ban stupid people from breeding.
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what are you talking about |
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Also what is the price to be a slave, you can suicide ? Sure it's good to have good stats... |
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Thank god i live in a country where only criminials have guns. Which makes things way more safe than that shithole called the US.
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Instead of being so defensive maybe you should start looking at the under laying issue. |
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france regulates weapons and basically you are usually not allowed to have a real one (for some reason, at least in big cities)... but who cares, there is a black market for people like that... And i cant even defend myself, if this country fails to protect me how it should. I should just wait that someone bothers to do something... |
You can vote to ban anything you want. Doesn't mean people will actually abide by it. There's plenty of 'banned' things you can find easily, in most places in the world.
So sure, vote to ban it. People with guns will say.. ahahahahahaaha you ain't taking my piece. Then you will see more bloodshed because people the law allows to have guns, try to take it away from those who purchased them legally, at one point. |
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Do you have to have an iq of 70 to be pro gun or what? |
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What situation is more safe. Out of 1000 people 1 is a criminal with a gun. Out of 1000 people 1 is a criminal with a gun and 500 people are citizens with a gun. Think real hard about it with your pea sized brain before you answer. |
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Do you think everyone is wrong and you are right? |
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You know, people worries about murders because it's spectacular but there is an other side of the coin (when there is no guns). |
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Can't you in this case just say i have personal reasons but yes you people are right, there is a huge fucking gun problem in the US? Fucking moron. |
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Nah, this can't be real. You're just fucking with me. |
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It's not the gun who kills, it's the guy who shot. Also if your society is violent, what demonstrates that the reason is the guns ? |
Gun nutters look so much like the conspiracy nutters here. Equally dumb and brainwashed.
They ignore facts. They ignore statistics. They just keep on crying the same thing over and over again. |
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You know, there is much more people in jail in the USA too. And there is much more gangs too... Remove the gun, what proves that it will reduce the number of murders ? You know you can't buy cocaine over the counter, but strangely some people are able to get it anyway... :2 cents: |
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So if guns help stop these types of mass shootings, could someone please post some links to examples of people stopping a mass shooting because they were armed?
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And you know in france, this country where you are allowed to think what you want... people would just start to harass me, because i claim an opinion like that. I'm just sure that in france, the jurisdictional system is totally fucked up and useless to protect people efficiently (at least on some subjects). I just want to be able to protect myself (just in case, people wanted to destroy my life for the fun of it or because i don't think like them, for example). |
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I own an Uzi. That doesn't mean it's a machine gun. It's a single shot rifle as are the AR-15's used in recent shootings. |
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Ok, here is my take, as an Obama voting Dem who SURPRISE - owns a lot of guns (we can't let the GOP have all the fun). I own a FN SCAR, Walther PPS, FN 5.7, Ed Brown Kobra Carry, and a few others.
A firearms ban is just so dumb and out there when you consider history and the present situation. First, alcohol consumption by private citizens has contributed more death and misery in this country than firearms, and it isn't even close. People rape, maim, assault and kill people in this country due to the impact of alcohol every single day. Are we going to ban alcohol? Of course not. Did we try? Yes. Did it work. Hell no. Banning firearms is Prohibition 2.0. Put simply, the demand for firearms is enormous, much like the demand for alcohol prior to prohibition (Exhibit A: 2,000,000+ gun purchase in the state of Kentucky alone last year). If a firearm ban is in place, people will simply buy them in the unregulated black market, enriching the coffers of those in organized crime. And oh yea, the thugs in South Side Chicago are gona love it, because the Korean grocery store owner with a mini-mart there can't have a shot gun behind the counter to protect himself. Secondly, unless you want a civil war, stop the ban firearms nonsense. Try confiscating weapons from armed militias in Northern Michigan. You thought Waco was bad? Shit, it would be absolute chaos. Take PRAGMATIC approaches to gun ownership, like we do with other "deathly pleasures", e.g., alcohol and cigarettes. That is the only solution. Anyone who proposes a complete firearm ban, or even worse, confiscation, is delusional and should have their head examined. Learn from history. The populace is already heavily armed, so a ban is just not gonna work under any reality, alternative or otherwise. It didn't work for alcohol, and it sure as hell isn't gonna work for firearms. |
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If you are talking about Ar-15, or the .223 Bushmaster. this is NOT an assault weapon. Just because Politics have changed the wording and what something looks like. It is a Weapon that LOOKS like an assault Weapon. We have changed the wording to fit the needs. It is No more that a 30-06 just a smaller round, and a larger magazine. BOTH can be modified to be automatic as can most weapons even shot guns. I can get a 100 round clip for my 9mm and modify the handgun to make it auto. |
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Guns are here, so there has to be a different answer. The Criminals will NEVER give up their guns. If guns were never invented, then the USA would be the number one in Knife Violence. It isn't the weapon (does make mass killings more easy) it is how we have changed over time and all the PC correct crap. Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws, and the Most violence..... |
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