Well played. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Lemme guess. You don't live in the United States?

Is it the weed that made you this fucking stupid or we're you simply born like this?

Nope, i live in a first world country where you don't need an uzi to defend your home.

Do we send financial aid to your first world country? You are lucky. I live in a country where they have home invasions. The invaders love it when the homeowners are unarmed.

You're not allowed to comment on the constitution you weird dutch fag...

Franck lives in CandyLand...

Because small arms work great against tanks, stealth bombers and nuclear weapons.

Just ask the Taliban.

I love this argument. Yes, a car can be driven into a crowd and can kill dozens quicker than a hand gun. Yet oddly enough we don't have people intentionally driving into crowds with the intentions of killing people. You can kill people with baseball bats and spoons and even duck tape if you really wanted to, but yet people always use guns. People use guns because it empowers them and gives them control.

Baseball bats are used for baseball. Cars are used for transportation. Spoons are used to eat with. Firearms are used to kill.

You can argue some firearms are used for hunting. But not hand guns. And not the Bushmaster this kid had today.

He is fortunate.

I don't think you understand what the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is at all... maybe you should study some history tonight and figure it out, it's pretty simple... has nothing to do with hunting...

i think you can own a tank:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...killing-puppy/

Some firearms are used for hunting. Some for self defense. Some for law enforcement. I certainly don't think all guns are meant for hunting. I agree it would be nice if we could outlaw being a crazy violent person, then baseball bats, knives, and spoons would all be used for their desired purpose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...r_manslaughter

it happened recently in my area

you tell the guy,who was actually a marine in combat.

So in europe they arent free?

Nice :thumbsup

I dont think they should ban guns. I think it should be a little harder to buy assault weapons and body armor.

Lol! Typical.

Americans are killing themselves and when someone in another country tries to give a damn, that's the default reaction? Sad, very sad.

Just because you are a marine in combat doesn't mean you can't also be ignorant to the purpose of the 2nd Amendment...

I agree with you 100%!

No one is shooting people with machine guns.

Please. Since when do any of you smug Canadian queers give two shits about this sort of thing? If anything you relish in it. I bet you have been watching tv all day with quite the turgid erection. As if the dead kids were not bad enough... the army of Canadian whiners on their soapboxes we will all have to endure for the foreseeable future, unbearable.

Didn't say they were. I was just simply stating that I didn't think any private citizen should own one. The last time I was in vegas, I seen where you could go shoot full automatic machine guns. Obviously, you can get them in the US.

Interesting statistics here:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html

I would have never guessed that out of 14,299 murder victims in 2008,
34% were killed by something other than a gun. Now, if guns were not
legal, you must assume that this number would go up correct?

Companies that have licenses can in Las Vegas apparently, but private citizens can not legally own a fully automatic weapon. Yet, they have been used in crimes. Even though they are illegal. Weird, right?

So if I have a job where I have a lot of cash you want it to be hard for me to buy a bullet proof vest?

If more people had bullet proof vests less people would die of gun shots.

I believe last news was the .223 Bushmaster was found in the car, so I believe he used only hand guns...

what is an Assault weapon?? You Do mean Full Auto right???

If it's premeditated murder, like todays school tragedy, the murderer will very likely have a method that makes his goal accomplishable.

These purchases seem to all follow the same mo, they are all bought in a short period of time. Nothing wrong with a few questions, you buy a 1000 rounds of ammo, an assault weapon and body armor. It should be a valid question, why do you need these?

Again, prohibition and the treatment of alcohol in early part of the last century is the best example when thinking about today's times and guns. You simply cannot ban firearms, the cat is already out the bag. Just regulate in a pragmatic and reasonably way.

Connecticut has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Guess what? This tragedy STILL happened. Newton looks like something out of the Stepford Wives. If it can happen there, it can happy anywhere.

I prefer to not be a victim, thus the reason I have a conceal carry license and carry quite often, especially malls, parks (if allowed) and metro areas.

full auto or really big clips. Someone 24 buys a bunch of shit quick, questions should be asked. Not saying ban but it shouldnt be easy.

Yea, like "asking questions" is going to help anything, as if people don't ever answer questions with lies...

You either sell guns or you don't, you can't be expected to thoroughly interrogate a customer and always be suspicious of their intentions. That's what we have things like background checks for anyways...

Why not add murder via car accidents, which is 15x the amount.

Guess its time to ban cars.

Or how about LEGAL prescription drugs. Which surpasses even illegal drugs.

Guess its time to ban prescriptions.

Gimme a break. ONE guy does something, suddenly we ban every one else?

If that's the case then pens should be banned, because Al Capone once stabbed some one with one.

Logic. Use it, for once.

I agree..

Problem here is, I believe they said he took his Mom's weapons.

I am not sure if very many of these things were quickly decided. You can buy say 100 rounds a week, and so on.

In this case it "APPEARS" he only used the hand guns which he would of had to have only 3 to 5 clips for each hand gun if it held 12-15 rounds each.

Doesn't refute anything.. Guns were banned in Australia after this mass shooting (except rifles etc for farmers and sports shooters pistols). Mass shootings in the 15 years since the ban: 0

Different scenario though.. Aussies never came in the pants about guns.. I grew up firing them went I visited my grandads farm. But you never saw them around in towns.. it was weird for someone to have one.. If you had issues you fought someone like a man.. We never really lived in fear of being broken into or whatever and don't really give a shit about criminals shooting criminals which happens pretty rarely. Also we have a good public health system.. don't have a fraction of the crazies running around the streets like in the US.

To me 15 rounds are alot. 6 per clip. wont stop it but will slow it down.

I wonder when he killed himself, when the Police arrived?? Before??

I dont know, Im sure we will find out how the whole thing happened moment by moment.

procured from the place where they are legal ,,,, the USA !!!

Nope, it's proof you don't know what you're talking about. The ban came AFTER and BECAUSE of Bryant.

That said America is a different situation. The gun buyback and ban would probably not work there. You guys probably just need better background checks and so on. I know someone here that got put on a 5 year gun license ban because they threatened someone. Hard to police a lot of this stuff though - most of these kids use their parent's guns.. forcing family members of kids on prescription drugs or with mental issues to have tougher licensing or storage restrictions is going to infringe on their rights.

6 rounds per clip? :1orglaugh

Of course! Because cars are mainly here to kill people. The main function of an automobile is to kill people! Yup, Gotcha. Makes sense.

I recall a pretty dodgy and selective stat mining thing promoted by the pro gun lobby afterwards saying the same thing. Take it with a grain of salt if it's the same thing because it was bullshit. That said it's been many more years since and I haven't checked the raw stats so I won't argue from a position of ignorance. You could be totally right. Got an xmas party to go to right now, not going to spend the next hour or two poring over stats right now although it would be nice to know for sure. Just bear in mind that not many homes really had guns before the ban.. at all.. it's not like the US, no criminals went "cool we can do home invasions now everyone is disarmed" everyone was mostly disarmed anyways.. you'd be committing an error of cultural judgement there. Home invasions aren't something that anyone worries about at all in the slightest. Thefts and assaults yes. The only people worried about armed invasions are drug dealers and maybe some especially rich people.

We currently have an alcohol (or drug) induced violence problem. The last random act of violence we got up in arms about here was a guy that went on a "rampage" late one night in a party district and punched four different people, one of whom fell over hit their head and died. No offence but I'd much rather live in a society where we worry about spree punchers.

What about banning the sale of assault rifles, or huge magazines - by the manufacturer? If the manufacturer can't sell them, fewer nuts will possess them.

They should be banned. They are weapons of war. Nobody hunts with an assault rifle. Nobody needs one to stop a home invasion. They are designed to kill people en mass - that's it. Rapid fire guns are what the psychos use in these mass killings. Outlaw the sale of them. If the gun nuts don't like it, tough shit. We have a right to live without weekly massacres.

http://www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs...w=300&MaxH=300

I can tell you're a pathetic sissy. Probably can't even grow a beard.
You fit In with The Globalist Male feminization of America... no problem.

You'd get eaten for lunch If You ever Had To Survive With Real Men :2 cents:

When It falls Apart, YOU WON'T BE ON MY TEAM. DON'T BEG.

In many states it is perfectly legal to own a fully automatic weapon, a short barrel rifle, a silencer, or a short barrel shotgun. There is some paperwork involved and a $200 tax, but perfectly legal.


An assault weapon is not classified as an assault rifle. The term assault rifle confuses the fuck out of everyone is used incorrectly by the media.

Assault Weapon = semi automatic rifle with a detachable magazine, plus two of the features listed above.

The US Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."

I cant remember any of the public shooting in the past 10 years or so where anyone used a fully automatic rifle or machine gun. Actually I cant remember any in my lifetime. But the media uses the term assault rifle incorrectly to promote sensationalism and fear, because most people are too ignorant to know otherwise, and you can see that it works just from reading a lot of the posts in the thread.

The solution is obvious. Nobody ever went on a massive killing spree at a gun show and it seems like every time this occurs it is at a school. CLEARLY schools are the problem not guns. We need to ban schools.

Just arm everyone, problems will sort themselves out.

Nobody ever robs a gun store during business hours.