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Outlawing guns is impossible. It's not like you can press a hyperspace button and all the guns magically disappear, gone forever. Outlawing guns will simply mean very law abiding citizens will turn theirs in. The vast majority plus more hitting our shores will still be there. Then what? A war on guns that's twice as successful as our war on drugs would still be a huge fail and guns would still be readily available to anyone planning a crime. . |
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I used to be totally anti gun.... then I realised how hitler was the same.... He didn't want his citizens to have guns either. I totally believe guns are the most retarded things in the world yet in the end after all the politics and bullshit that can be worked around through further bullshit, they are the only thing between you and your government taking control. Please don't say it can't OR won't ever happen. edit - i've had too much too drunk but I don't know which side of the fence to stand on. |
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1 gun is safer than 501 guns for sure! |
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Jokes aside, alcohol his little to no redeeming value (outside of medical and industrial uses). Yet we, as a democratic and free society, have agreed that the pleasure of alcohol outweighs the pain and suffering it causes (which outnumbers the pain the suffering caused by firearm ownership in this country).
At least with firearms, there is objective value, e.g., 1) self defense, 2) a commodity that can be traded and sold (if the shit hits the fan, guns and ammo will be worth more than gold, 3) safe recreational use among family and friends, 4) keeping the government in check (no, I'm not a right wing nut, but it is a hell of lot easier to deal with the lemming if they aren't armed). Freedom is expensive and produces horrible results. But you gotta take the good with the bad. We'd all be safe if we lived in a world where guns, alcohol, cigarettes, fast cars, and other "vice enabling" products/services were banned. But then you live in some strange world out of a Star Trek episode. No thanks. |
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There is a HUGE Issue and Problem. To many Criminals and People about to go crazy. have guns... But Gun Control as everyone is talking is NOT the answer. The school was a No Gun Zone, ha. Look at the batman guy he had several other theaters closer to his house, some were even bigger. He chose the ONLY one that do not carry conceal in the theater. I heard MOST of these shootings happen in places where you can not carry, and there are no police or security. |
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oh fuck, i thought this was to do with the mall shooting. i just read about the school shooting.
really things are so fucked up in the world on so many levels. so many fucking levels. it is disgusting. |
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YES, in this case it's safer to have only one criminal if the police does its job... But if you fear what could happen, you are supposed to think twice before you start to do something that could have a fatal effect. (Of course, it's inefficient against people on drug or against people that think that they are the strongest anyway). |
Anybody who thinks living between 500 gun owners is safer than having 1 criminal with a gun in your area needs to get their head checked. And soon.
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It's easier to get. It's a different life style. It would also be easier to find help (you don't fear to have legal issues) |
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But are these people really the problem ? Let's say the someone decide to kill his boss: i think that the other boss will think twice before they start to hassle their employees. Yeah more murders... but less harassments |
The way society is now, if you want a gun you should have an evaluation by a psychiatrist and do a deep mental health history check.
And anyone can get a gun illegally but a lot of these loner type, white, middle class guys will not roll into the ghetto and try to buy a gun. That may eliminate some of random shootings and whatnot. |
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These white guys are terrible. Are they even allowed to vote ? |
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Three weapons were recovered from the school: a semi-automatic .223 Bushmaster found in a car in the school parking lot, and a Glock and a Sig Sauer found with Lanza's body
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If anything this shows us that we need more guns. If teachers were packing, janitors, school administrators, hell, even the students, this massacre could have been prevented.
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When the Constitution was written, it took an entire minute to load a weapon and you were lucky if you hit the broadside of a barn with it. Now you can kill thirty people in sixty seconds. Is that what the Constitution had in mind? |
This thread is fucking idiotic. "lets ban guns"... as if it hasn't been attempted already.
Let's ban alcohol and see how that works out... oh.. it has been attempted already and it led to the gangsters killing even more daily then the guy did today.. oh... sorry.. continue with your moronic reason on why guns should be banned.... |
I really don't mind people that don't want to own guns. I wish they would put a sign on their door declaring this. I am trained on the safe use of my firearms. I understand the the police can not protect my home, nor is it their job to do so. They will most likely show up with chalk and police tape after violence has occurred. I love that I have the right to legally own a weapon and protect my life and the lives of my family with it.
if you believe that if abortions were made illegal that women would get them illegally anyway, then I hope you understand that gun owners know the same rule would apply to firearms. The second amendment was not for hunters, btw. |
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And no, that is not what the constitution had in mind... the deranged individual today was not fighting against tyranny for the security of the free state, as described in the 2nd Amendment, instead he took the lives of innocent people which is not at all what the 2nd Amendment is about... so he was obviously in the wrong and deserved to die for what he did and now he won't be hurting anyone else. |
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Lemme guess. You don't live in the United States? |
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Do we send financial aid to your first world country? You are lucky. I live in a country where they have home invasions. The invaders love it when the homeowners are unarmed. |
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Baseball bats are used for baseball. Cars are used for transportation. Spoons are used to eat with. Firearms are used to kill. You can argue some firearms are used for hunting. But not hand guns. And not the Bushmaster this kid had today. |
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