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epitome 12-17-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 19375460)
Wait until your town, city, county and state taxes go up because they need to comply to Obamacare. But remember, no one making under $250k will see a tax increase.

Why would that happen?

epitome 12-17-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19375434)
Keep this mind..right now there are 14 states that are going to be administrated by the same people that run the USPS.

Wrong. The same people that also administer the health plans of millions of federal employees. Also the people that manage my plan.

I had a problem where my doctor didn't want to pre-cert for a CT-Scan because "he doesn't do them"... so I called the radiology pre-cert number on the back of my card that isn't even for me, but instead for medical professionals. I told the sympathetic woman on the phone my problem, she assured me this is the first she's ever heard of a doctor doing that and then made phone calls to get it sorted. Finally, she called me back to tell me that my pre-cert was approved. All in an hour.

Edit: and come 2014 they won't be administering anything. All they will be doing is running online exchanges so people can compare and purchase insurance directly through insurers.

Dvae 12-17-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19375575)
I have no idea if Obamacare is going to work, but it can't really be much worse what we we have.

You want to bet?

Juicy D. Links 12-17-2012 04:19 PM

Oxford /United Health covers me for 5 prostate milkings per year

epitome 12-17-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19375606)
You want to bet?

Like anything political, whether you think it is a success or not will depend on your political views. It could be the best thing in the world and there will still be a % of people lining up saying it is horrible.

epitome 12-17-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19375610)
Oxford /United Health covers me for 5 prostate milkings per year

Perfect example of waste. You already examine your own prostate twice a day and will be the first to know if it become enlarged.

baddog 12-17-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19375478)
Odd I can't remember the last time the post office lost my mail.. TBH I don't think they ever have as long as I can remember..

They have lost my mail, delivered to the wrong address and are running at a loss.

Juicy D. Links 12-17-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19375616)
Perfect example of waste. You already examine your own prostate twice a day and will be the first to know if it become enlarged.

nah nah I have a $5 copay if a "reacharound" is performed

woj 12-17-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19375575)
I have no idea if Obamacare is going to work, but it can't really be much worse what we we have.

but how could it possibly be better? the key point of Obamacare is that more people will have insurance?

health insurance companies don't really contribute anything to our health system, they do not much more than make money by moving $$ around... they have lets say 10% overhead, 10% profit margin, and doctors have to waste 10% on overhead on their end...
so at least 30% is "wasted" without any clear benefit to anyone...

so if more people have insurance, then that 30% overhead will apply to more people and so on average healthcare costs can only rise... :2 cents:

Grapesoda 12-17-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19375425)
I wasn't even going to mention this here...but whatever.
2 weeks ago I was in for my annual checkup. I have been going to the same doctor for over 15 years. We got into a conversation about Obamacare. His response was, he didn't care because he is getting out of the hospital.

Starting the summer of 2013 he will only work in his private clinic and do outpatient . His reason was that he wasn't interested in assembly-line medicine. He and several others are working at taking the clinic totally private. No insurance. Just cash. He said a lot of the older guys are seriously planning on going this direction. They have enough cash and investments that they are not interested in Obamacare at all. I'm on board with him.

Think about that. If a lot of docs leave at once the amount of experience at the hospital level will go with them. To be replaced by fresh out of school doctors with a ton of college debt.

one of the DR's I see is going cash only as well

Sly 12-17-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19375623)
They have lost my mail, delivered to the wrong address and are running at a loss.

Whether or not they provide a good service doesn't even matter, they are so broke they may as well file bankruptcy and start over again. The reason they are broke is because of our wonderful Congress creating special laws that require the post office to operate as a business but does not allow them to operate as a business

Hmm...

keysync 12-17-2012 05:21 PM

All small business owners I know are going to pay the fine instead of providing insurance. It's much cheaper.

baddog 12-17-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19375658)
one of the DR's I see is going cash only as well

When I did have insurance, most doctors under that plan only accepted cash for the co-pay

crockett 12-17-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19375577)
Seriously...you are that rabid about Obama that you are defending the Post Office?

I'm not rabid about anything I just don't buy the bullshit that is constantly spewed out of the right wing. Why is it you seem to think anything that doesn't agree with what you believe is somehow support for something you hate?

The post office works great for me.. I dunno what problems you have had with it but it seems like it's done a pretty damn good job for this country over the years so I see no reason to hate it just because it's run by the govt.

The only problem with the PO that I personally see is they have budget problems. Welp news flash so does the rest of the govt.

The PO is providing a valuable service to this country and in doing so they have to have offices all over the place that might not be profitable in a business sense for a normal brick & mortar. I can forgive a bit of budget over run when it's a service that this country requires.

Could they do a better job? Probably, but for me they seem to do a job that is good enough. So Minte please tell me why the US PO has offended you so greatly.

I mean really I just don't get you right wingers.. You guys will bitch and moan about everything but you never have any real solutions. Added to this you bitch about waste and over spending of the govt but then turn a blind eye with it's your corporate gods do anything that's irresponsible.


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