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georgeyw 12-19-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19379067)
Obviously the kids need guns as well for cases like that.

What if the kids and the teachers want to go on a rampage?

Slappin Fish 12-19-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19379474)
This wasn't a spur of the moment act, it was planned out so he could have used a number of different methods. My question is, what would be the focus of discussion if he chose a different method?

If he burned a bunch of those kids to death with gas, I doubt it would be any constellation to the parents that at least their child wasn't killed with a gun.

Someone wanted to kill a bunch of innocent children, that's the true weapon.

Wouldn't be a consolation but there would be a lot less parents to tell it to.

How many twentysomethings have blown up bombs, not as terrorist acts, but for the sake of killing? By definition these guys are losers, too many obstacles in their way and they give up. Right now a loser in Germany, a loser in Belgium, a loser in every country is dreaming of going out in a blaze of glory blasting his classmates but he just can't. and doesn't have the drive to find any other way.

btw, I get what you are saying. yes the human is the weapon. but that weapon is unloaded and what we are doing is giving it easy access to ammo.


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L-Pink 12-19-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19379489)
So God is getting revenge by killing 8 year olds? The delusional thinking of the christian right and the gun nuts (same bunch) is getting downright scary.

Calm down I think it's just a joke.

Barefootsies 12-19-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19379052)
There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with your country if you think teachers need to be armed

Agreed.

:thumbsup

dgraves 12-19-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19379602)
Right now a loser in Germany, a loser in Belgium, a loser in every country is dreaming of going out in a blaze of glory blasting his classmates

You're getting warmer....

2MuchMark 12-19-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19379052)
I mean, really fucking goddamn seriously wrong. Something most gun nutters don't even seem to be worried about.

For once, I agree with DirtyF. (This could be the start of a beautiful relationship).




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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19379071)
Require all schools to have an armed security guard with extensive training. I'd MUCH rather see my tax dollars go to that instead of the pointless war on drugs.

Or, put in some serious gun restriction laws, get the guns off the street, end the war on drugs, put more money into healthcare for the mentally ill, stop Fox News from broadcasting fear, calm everyone down, and get things back on track.

Best-In-BC 12-19-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19379069)
I agree. Teachers in general should not be armed. But I do believe that each and ever school needs two or more people that are trained and armed every day of the school year.

Simple ways to work that out.

Agreed :thumbsup

StickyGreen 12-19-2012 03:27 PM

Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...

dgraves 12-19-2012 03:33 PM

Arming teachers would be like suggesting all women wear chastity belts to prevent rape.

StickyGreen 12-19-2012 03:35 PM

Why should teachers be armed? The odds of them ever needing to use a gun at school are pretty fucking slim...

SuckOnThis 12-19-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19379756)
Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...


Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?

L-Pink 12-19-2012 03:39 PM

The problems in our society have zero to do with anything in the bill of rights.

L-Pink 12-19-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19379785)
Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?

Where do you come up with this stuff?

PornoMonster 12-19-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19379689)
For once, I agree with DirtyF. (This could be the start of a beautiful relationship).






Or, put in some serious gun restriction laws, get the guns off the street, end the war on drugs, put more money into healthcare for the mentally ill, stop Fox News from broadcasting fear, calm everyone down, and get things back on track.

Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.

StickyGreen 12-19-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19379785)
Wouldn't the person who is so scared of their own shadow that they have to have a gun just to walk out their front door be the definition of a pussy?

Are you scared of your own shadow? That's sad... and weird...

L-Pink 12-19-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19379801)
Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.

None of your suggestions would have helped in the recent shootings over the past few years where the kids were from middle class families with clean backgrounds.

SuckOnThis 12-19-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19379809)
Are you scared of your own shadow? That's sad... and weird...

No, but if I felt I couldn't be secure without a gun I sure would feel like a pussy.

PornoMonster 12-19-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19379811)
None of your suggestions would have helped in the recent shootings over the past few years where the kids were from middle class families with clean backgrounds.

I know this, BUT
I would rather do these things than to give up my weapons or high capacity magazines.

Well background check for entire family would of, I think. According to the news (ha) he was a very disturbed child.

I am also thinking ahead. What if a poorly trained CCW person who almost never fires the weapon decides to protect him/her self during a bank robbery, and does some stupid shit.

I am for yearly qualifications.... Had to in the military

dgraves 12-19-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19379801)
Serious Back Ground Checks, maybe for even entire family.
Training on weapons.
The training for the CCW class was a joke.
Get rid of gun show loopholes.
Waiting period on all guns.

I totally agree with stricter requirements to obtain guns.

There's no real "need" to own assaults rifles but only politicians ask why we "need" certain types of guns. There's absolutely no need for civilians to own .50 Cal rifles yet they sell them. Once someone shoots down a jet with one, then they'll deal with that issue. Until then, no one will ask why they are "needed".

Events like this will continue until someone finds out why these kids feel the "need" to kill others. I think our society is glamorizing militant behavior. Why did that kid dress up in a military style outfit? Why isn't anyone asking why kids "need" graphic video games that are extremely violent?

dgraves 12-19-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19379828)
I know this, BUT
I would rather do these things than to give up my weapons or high capacity magazines.

Well background check for entire family would of, I think. According to the news (ha) he was a very disturbed child.

I am also thinking ahead. What if a poorly trained CCW person who almost never fires the weapon decides to protect him/her self during a bank robbery, and does some stupid shit.

I am for yearly qualifications.... Had to in the military

They already tried banning collapsible stocks and high capacity magazines but determined it had no effect on associated crimes. It takes a trained person a few seconds to swap mags so it's a bit pointless.

There's so much talk about gun control that it's like this psycho wasn't even involved. They even count his body like he was a victim.

BigChad 12-19-2012 04:29 PM

Keep putting kids in time out, raised by single mothers and this will continue. They need a good ass whoopin.

mikesinner 12-19-2012 04:34 PM

Most high school teachers are very unstable.

wehateporn 12-19-2012 04:38 PM

Realistically though there are more important things to worry about, for example what if one school fires a scud at another, surely every school requires their own scud to act as a deterrent. This is what we should all be talking about instead of guns; US schools need scuds to defend themselves.


Rochard 12-19-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19379408)
Sounds good until the ACLU gets involved. The far left will never allow anyones rights to be trampled like that. Innocent until proven guilty.

That's the problem - everyone will "you can't take my gun".

It just seems like common sense to me. If you've ever (EVER) had any kind of depression bad enough to have seen a doctor or be put on medication, you should not be allowed to own a firearm - or live in a house that has one. If you own a firearm and you have someone in the house who "might" have mental issues... Your insane.

Rochard 12-19-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19379588)
Won't stop, but should greatly reduce the number of deaths / shootings.
Armed guard or Military person would of taken out the shooter in this case way before 20 minutes went by!

Maybe that's part of the solution....

- Assault rifle ban.
- Armed guards at schools.
- Better id of people with mental issues and prevention of them getting firearms.

dgraves 12-19-2012 05:10 PM

Armed guards in schools won't address what's causing the issue.

What's the solution when someone does this in a church, mall, theater, etc?

That kid was planning this for some time so I highly doubt he showed absolutely no signs before killing his mother and 25 other people.

There's a reason for a rise in this time of crime and it's not because assault rifles are more readily available or magazines can hold 30 rounds instead of 10.

Who came up with the name "assault rifles" in the first place? How can I buy an assault handgun?

Dirty F 12-19-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19379756)
Franck we know you're a pussy and you're scared of life, it's okay...

He's probably hiding under his bed right now...

Huh? I'm not the one walking around with guns? You fucking imbecile.

georgeyw 12-19-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19380003)
Armed guards in schools won't address what's causing the issue.

What's the solution when someone does this in a church, mall, theater, etc?

That kid was planning this for some time so I highly doubt he showed absolutely no signs before killing his mother and 25 other people.

There's a reason for a rise in this time of crime and it's not because assault rifles are more readily available or magazines can hold 30 rounds instead of 10.

Who came up with the name "assault rifles" in the first place? How can I buy an assault handgun?

Same as

'twink'
'bear'
'big boobs'

assault rifle = a category of fire arm :2 cents:

dgraves 12-19-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19380431)
Same as

'twink'
'bear'
'big boobs'

assault rifle = a category of fire arm :2 cents:

I can assault someone with any rifle...

georgeyw 12-20-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19380440)
I can assault someone with any rifle...

You really still do not get it? This is pretty damn sad. You do not even understand that guns fall under different categories?

L-Pink 12-20-2012 02:13 PM

I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?

dgraves 12-20-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19381591)
You really still do not get it? This is pretty damn sad. You do not even understand that guns fall under different categories?

It's obvious that this went right over your head.

I'll slow it down for you next time.

Scott McD 12-20-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19380330)
Huh? I'm not the one walking around with guns? You fucking imbecile.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GFED 12-20-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19381595)
I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?

Yes, the rifle was found in the trunk of a vehicle.

baddog 12-20-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19379489)
So God is getting revenge by killing 8 year olds? The delusional thinking of the christian right and the gun nuts (same bunch) is getting downright scary.

It takes a special kind of dumb to arrive at that conclusion.

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19379792)
Where do you come up with this stuff?

See above.

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19381595)
I thought the rifle was left in his vehicle making this argument moot?

There are so many different stories of what happened; until the trial we will not know.

L-Pink 12-20-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19381612)
Yes, the rifle was found in the trunk of a vehicle.

So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk …..


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GFED 12-20-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19381616)
So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk ?..


.

It doesn't even look like an AR15 to me.


baddog 12-20-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19381616)
So everyone is arguing about banning the unused weapon in the trunk ?..


.

Like I said . . . . http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/con...uns/index.html
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(CNN) -- Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.

In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer.

In fact many details remain unknown about the weapons Lanza used that day to kill 20 children, his own mother, six other adults and then himself. Here's what is known so far:

The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance. The rifle is a Bushmaster version of a widely made AR-15, the civilian version of the M-16 rifle used by the U.S. military. The original M-16 patent ran out years ago, and now the AR-15 is manufactured by several gunmakers. Unlike the military version, the AR-15 is a semiautomatic, firing one bullet per squeeze of the trigger. But like the M-16, ammunition is loaded through a magazine. In the school shooting, police say Lanza's rifle used numerous 30-round magazines.

Bryan G 12-20-2012 02:32 PM

I find it funny that people who are pro gun think that those who are not are pussies lol. A pussy is someone that has to use a gun from 20ft away. Try actually defending yourself actually fighting. Fact is ANYONE that feels the need to arm themselves are in fact the biggest pussies around.

L-Pink 12-20-2012 02:32 PM

Ok baddog, that makes more sense. Thanks


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