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Barefootsies 12-21-2012 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 19384097)
there is a general laziness in the world today. not sure if it is a result of the recession, or the recession is a result of the laziness.l
Agreed.

We have a few huge ($XX,XXX) projects going on right now, and it's been a bear to find someone who is a professional.

By that I mean, once you have provided them the basics of the project... you have went through the back and forth Q&A to make sure they have a full understanding.... they then work up a formal contract/bid with payment milestones, projected date to completion, and all of that jazz. Assuming you get all of that handled, the next step is communication and updates along the way. Even if only 1-2 times a week to report progress. Followed by you delivering on time. If not, explaining why not and new projected ETA.

That above in very hard to find. Once you find those sort, hold on with two hands and pay them whatever they ask for. You want to keep them. Right now we have two who are kick ass, and we are keeping them busy. But over 2012, we've had literally 6 others who have failed to meet expectations, or been insanely difficult to work with. Blow their own projected deadlines by a mile, disappear for weeks on end, etc..

:disgust

plsureking 12-21-2012 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19384122)
:1orglaugh Yea, construction here can be a real nightmare. They are farmers with hammers.
lol yea when we built our house it was supposed to take 6 months. at 6 months there wasn't even a roof, so i moved into a hut on the property and managed it the rest of the way, with my wife translating via speaker phone from her job. they were pissed to have a farang micromanaging their work, but i could give a shit. the final product was pretty good altough i had to redo 70% of the plumbing myself, rehang all of the doors, and do quite a few other things. i don't mind tho, it gives me an excuse to buy more tools lol

who is that chick in your avatar? very nice :D
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BareBacked 12-21-2012 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtov (Post 19382819)
Don't deal with Filipinos unless you or another westerner is managing them personally. I'm Canadian and lived in the PH for a year managing 10 Filipinos, my friend managing around 30 in the same building.

You always have to keep your foot on their neck to make them work. They like money & despise work,(the most retarded calling in sick excuse i got was "it was my first time drinking powerade last night and it made me sick") you're 100% right when you say "an entire country with a work ethic below mine".

In terms of holidays, they have one every 5 minutes, it got so ridiculous when I was there that I had to go by American holidays only. I hope you didn't pay him much, your best bet would be to cut your losses and fire him right away (his excuses are most likely the beginning of a never ending string).

If you're interested in cheap and managed Filipino labor hit me up and I will see if my buddy can sort something out.

What is your contact?

BareBacked 12-21-2012 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 19383207)
I switched all my staff from filipinos to serbians

My serb staff is hard working, on time and very talented. I have 0 issues in serbia like i did in PH

Mutt if its animation you need hit me up i have a few good animators in Serbia
what you paying them? how did you find them ?

Best-In-BC 12-21-2012 10:53 PM
White People Are Lazy, 9 outta 10 are pampered bed wetters, the east indians here in bc measure up to my expectations, atleast where I worked.

xXXtesy10 12-21-2012 11:38 PM
Sir, pinoys have more holidays than France and the US postal service five times over, sir.

fuzebox 12-22-2012 01:50 AM
I lived in another predominantly Catholic country, and those fuckers start celebrating and Christmas in early November and basically don't go to work at all in December.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-22-2012 02:49 AM
50 lazy fucks

BareBacked 12-22-2012 10:32 AM
I think the problem is PH has been fished out.
Some of my best guys are from there but I hired them 8 years ago.

The ones now are the left overs who jump from gig to gig and also there is rampant fraud from the employer end to. So many people not paying them for work done


I would love to hear from people who have suggestion of other places to hire from. I need man power bad

Dvae 12-22-2012 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19383390)
i took a risk on him, his portfolio was much better than anybody else's who bid on the project. Filipinos are good at animation, a lot of big animation studios outsource to the Phillipines.

oDesk is not an easy site to figure out - when I agreed to pay half upfront i thought i was paying it to oDesk and they would hold it in escrow until the project was done, then release it and the balance payment at the end. that's how it should work but it doesn't.
Did you expect him to work in the dark? He's already telling you the lights are out. And what about buying booze to celebrate the holidays?
A bit shortsighted on your part isn't it?

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