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tony286 12-30-2012 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19397357)
It's a better deal than anything...except being a preacher of course (preferably evangelical with your own t.v. show)
preacher now you are talking real money brother. lol

Robbie 12-30-2012 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19397379)
preacher now you are talking real money brother. lol
tax free and all the pussy (or little boys according to preference) and drugs you want!

Barry-xlovecam 12-30-2012 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19397096)
The same constitution that allows guns, doesnt allow soldiers armed on patrol in the US.
"posse comitatus" is a Federal law from the US Civil War Era. There is no specific ban on using the Military as a police force other that what is written into this Act of Congress.
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18 USC § 1385 - Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, wilfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
The US Coast Guard is a "Federal Police Force" patrolling on US Soil they are part of the US Armed Forces. They perform may criminal apprehensions side by side with Federal police authorities.
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Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, ...
I think that bodily threat to our children assembled in public school buildings would pass muster of being within the framers' intents.

Schools are the primary responsibility of the States however their Governors are empowered to enforce law and order by use of the State Militia (National Guard) when deemed necessary.

Does protecting schoolchildren from psycho-killers seem in light of recent events necessary? There are not enough police to do this nor should there be -- we have trained soldiers that will have no wars to fight soon -- this is something constructive that they can do.

The gutless Congress could intervene in a positive and constructive manner, which in many ways; "except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by (the Constitution or ) [an] Act of Congress" denotes that they have the power to.

They are our children and we are responsible for their safety.

Maybe taping multiple semi-auto clips (magazines) together like you are going to war should call for firearms confiscation and and a prohibition of firearms ownership?

GrantMercury 12-30-2012 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19396438)
Dude you are living in a dream world. You just voted for another corrupt politician for President (Romney would of been the same...I voted Libertarian for real freedom).

I am sad to say that Harry Reid is my Senator. And he is about the perfect example of a lifetime corrupt politician as you will see.

"WE" aren't voting anybody out. "WE" are doing what you did...letting the media tell you who and what to vote for. And did anything change? No.

Even the bill for Hurricane Sandy disaster relief...it's FULL of pork barrel spending!
It has $8 MILLION dollars to buy cars for Homeland Security personnel.
$150 MILLION for fisheries in Alaska.
13 BILLION dollars for planning for future disasters!!!!!
The list goes on:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...Elj4CKwbheEV0N

THAT is your precious federal govt. full of fucking crooks at "work".

Wake up man. You're not cut from the same cloth as say an Abbie Hoffman. You're more of the "sheeple" variety than a true liberal who loves freedom.
Fuck you, dude. You're a whiner. It's that "can't do" spirit of yours that really screws the country.

What were the abolitionists thinking? What were the suffragists thinking? What were the union organizers thinking? What were the gays who wanted marriage equality thinking? They all should have done nothing - everyone knows nothing can change. They were living in a dream world.

You've got the right idea - just throw up your hands, and let the lobbyists go about their business completely unopposed. The patriotism is so moving. :disgust

Robbie 12-31-2012 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19397767)
Fuck you, dude. You're a whiner. It's that "can't do" spirit of yours that really screws the country.
I voted. And I voted for Gary Johnson a Libertarian.

You voted for a bloodthirsty Democrat because you THINK he's a "liberal".

I did my part to really change things. You didn't. You voted for status quo.

The only one whining is you. I'm telling you straight up...you are just another of the oh so common faux "liberals" who don't truly believe in freedom for themselves.

It's just the way you were conditioned to think. I was the same way 20 years ago. I opened my eyes as I grew older and saw the scams all around me.
I can't change your mind...but experience will change it for you as your eyes slowly open over the years like mine did.

GrantMercury 12-31-2012 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19397910)
I voted. And I voted for Gary Johnson a Libertarian.

You voted for a bloodthirsty Democrat because you THINK he's a "liberal".

I did my part to really change things. You didn't. You voted for status quo.

The only one whining is you. I'm telling you straight up...you are just another of the oh so common faux "liberals" who don't truly believe in freedom for themselves.

It's just the way you were conditioned to think. I was the same way 20 years ago. I opened my eyes as I grew older and saw the scams all around me.
I can't change your mind...but experience will change it for you as your eyes slowly open over the years like mine did.
You know virtually nothing about me. WTF are you talking about? I don't vote for anyone because I think they are "liberal". Such terms are meaningless and serve only the pundits.

You did your part to "really change things"? But you've said it's "out of the people's hands". Please clarify. Sounds to me like you've just given up.

Gozarian 12-31-2012 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19397910)
I voted. And I voted for Gary Johnson a Libertarian.

You voted for a bloodthirsty Democrat because you THINK he's a "liberal".

I did my part to really change things. You didn't. You voted for status quo.

The only one whining is you. I'm telling you straight up...you are just another of the oh so common faux "liberals" who don't truly believe in freedom for themselves.

It's just the way you were conditioned to think. I was the same way 20 years ago. I opened my eyes as I grew older and saw the scams all around me.
I can't change your mind...but experience will change it for you as your eyes slowly open over the years like mine did.
:winkwink::thumbsup

Rochard 12-31-2012 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19395291)
---- According to an annual report published by the National Safety Council, there were 39,800 deaths last year related to motor vehicles in 2008.

so what's you're point? people with cars are stupider than people with guns?
I love this one! It's pretty simple - more cars equals more car deaths. Common sense right?

The difference nearly everyone has a car - I have three myself - and they are used for transportation, not for intentionally killing people.

And BTW, not only do you have to have a license to drive a car, you also have to register your car. LOL.

Rochard 12-31-2012 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19395285)
I was reading some death row stats a few months ago, almost every person on death row had already been convicted of manslaughter, served time and was released. and that's a very interesting statistic that should really guide the legal system.
That's what I keep saying - this isn't a matter of "banning assault rifles". We need better health care to ID these people, restrictions on who can have firearms, and better legal so that when someone is charged with a violent crime they stay in the prison until they die.

Take someone's life with a firearm or a hammer (or a spoon for that matter) and you spend the rest of your life in prison. And never ever get out.

Gozarian 12-31-2012 05:40 PM
Man gets weekends in prison for guns, threats, child porn.

dgraves 12-31-2012 05:58 PM
http://nationalmemo.wpengine.netdna-...-MM918-007.jpg
A Barrett M82 50-Caliber Sniper Rifle - sold legally online.[/QUOTE]

YES! Now you're talking..."Reach out and touch someone", from a mile away!

dev777 12-31-2012 06:01 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/1...ed-az-shooter/

enough said.

Gozarian 12-31-2012 06:12 PM
WFT - guy had a concealed carry permit, disarmed the individual who held the gun, and never fired. Only the likes of Maddow could turn that into a bad gun story.

Gozarian 12-31-2012 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19398862)
A Barrett M82 50-Caliber Sniper Rifle - sold legally online.
YES! Now you're talking..."Reach out and touch someone", from a mile away![/QUOTE]

I like my McMillan more, it seems to have greater accuracy at distance. :winkwink:

dgraves 12-31-2012 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19398882)
YES! Now you're talking..."Reach out and touch someone", from a mile away!
I like my McMillan more, it seems to have greater accuracy at distance. :winkwink:[/QUOTE]

Ya, I saw that one...very nice. The Cheytac looks good to. At $5/round you'd want to make sure it's one shot, one kill.

oppoten 01-01-2013 12:04 AM
I agree, the good guys should keep slaves. No reason why the bad guys should claim history as their own.

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19397767)
What were the abolitionists thinking?
Exactly.

GrantMercury 01-01-2013 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dev777 (Post 19398866)
Exactly.


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