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MattO 12-30-2012 11:22 AM

That's a stupid comparison because vehicles aren't made for the sole purpose of killing humans.

Dvae 12-30-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19396950)
Storms. Washed out roads. Now it's premeditated murder to support your claim?

Reading comprehension is still a problem. Apparently geography is, too.

That fact that there is a Texas, MD must really confuse you.

I'll bet if you polled 50 people on this board and without them looking at Google or a map, very few would know there is a Philadelphia, Mississippi.

Ever heard of Susan Smith?

L-Pink 12-30-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19396453)
The US people WANT to own guns. This is just a regular payment for their "constitutional right". Perhaps my words sound a bit bitter, but that's truth. It will least while the US people won't change their laws to ban guns once and forever.

Everything has its price in this World :2 cents:

Good summation and shows how pointless it is for those outside the US to complain. The guns are here. They are part of our culture. Violence is part of our culture. It's foolish to think anything will change.

Dvae 12-30-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MattO (Post 19396956)
That's a stupid comparison because vehicles aren't made for the sole purpose of killing humans.

And neither are guns.

Dvae 12-30-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by adult-help (Post 19396471)
isn't that a classic example of straw man,the "oldest debating trick"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

in case it is - nice try..

It makes more sense than taking everybody's gun away.
Newsflash! I don't care how many laws you pass how many cops you put on the street the criminals are still going to have guns.

scottybuzz 12-30-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19396135)
Five people are dead and all you care about is my avatar?

kids are dying al the time. you dont give a fuck about the kid that just died from starvation in Africa do you?

BigChad 12-30-2012 11:46 AM

Ban all cell phones, because texting and driving kills people

Dvae 12-30-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19396969)
kids are dying al the time. you dont give a fuck about the kid that just died from starvation in Africa do you?

You mean to tell me there are kids dying of starvation in Africa?
Why do we not see them on TV anymore. During the 1980s that was a daily thing.

L-Pink 12-30-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChad (Post 19396984)
Ban all cell phones, because texting and driving kills people

I'm a thousand times more afraid of being killed by someone texting than by a firearm.

Dvae 12-30-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChad (Post 19396984)
Ban all cell phones, because texting and driving kills people

I think you're onto something here.
According to the CDC here are some statistics.

In 2009, more than 5,400 people died in crashes that were reported to involve a distracted driver and about 448,000 people were injured.1

Among those killed or injured in these crashes, nearly 1,000 deaths and 24,000 injuries included cell phone use as the major distraction.1

The proportion of drivers reportedly distracted at the time of a fatal crash has increased from 7 percent in 2005 to 11 percent in 2009.1.

brassmonkey 12-30-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattO (Post 19396956)
That's a stupid comparison because vehicles aren't made for the sole purpose of killing humans.

uh guns are weapons. If you are careless with a vehicle there should be harsh punishments. :2 cents:

epitome 12-30-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19396960)
I'll bet if you polled 50 people on this board and without them looking at Google or a map, very few would know there is a Philadelphia, Mississippi.

Ever heard of Susan Smith?

They probably wouldn't but I would hope that after they read that article they would realize it was not PA.

Since when is Philly rural? Or known for their tribal land? Or how about the first few words in the article itself?

You're really reaching all the way back to Susan Smith? Wasn't that like 20 years ago?

Barry-xlovecam 12-30-2012 12:54 PM

Were they drinking? That would be a good reason for a new "Prohibition" :upsidedow

You cannot outlaw stupidity -- we haven't got the jail space.

dgraves 12-30-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19396464)
Yes, absolutely. Contrary to popular belief, speed does NOT kill. Impacts kill. Performance vehicles are built to bring down the chance of impacts to absolutely minimal levels.

The reality is that the Porsche 911 Turbo, BMW M3, and vehicles like these are orders of magnitude safer than the Toyota Prius or Honda Civic. Know why? They have 10+ inch wide tires, independent front and rear suspension, and brakes that are the size of manhole covers.

When a vehicle is built for speed, it is built for literally ANY situation you can throw at it on the road.

And your analogy is not a good one for this debate, because performance vehicles are built with the express purpose of safe and efficient travel, not to splatter maximum brain matter on the wall.

Travel = reasonable

Bullets spraying brain matter on walls = unreasonable

And technically guns don't kill, bullets do.

tony286 12-30-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19396966)
It makes more sense than taking everybody's gun away.
Newsflash! I don't care how many laws you pass how many cops you put on the street the criminals are still going to have guns.

who said take everyones gun away? Having regulation is not banning. But these all nra talking points.

GrantMercury 12-30-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19396719)
I will ask the question again. If the bush tax cuts were so great why didnt he push to make permanent ? He had both houses.

Right. And if they were so great, where the fuck are the jobs they were supposed to create?

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...68480639_n.jpg

GrantMercury 12-30-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19397126)
who said take everyones gun away? Having regulation is not banning. But these all nra talking points.

Right. A rational discussion about common sense gun regulation is usually hard to have. Many people make massive leaps of reason.

:) "I think we need to stop allowing unlimited amounts of ammo to be purchased online by anybody."

:mad: "WHY DO YOU WANT TO CONFISCATE EVERY GUN IN AMERICA?!?!"

CheeseFrog 12-31-2012 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19396454)
As about the cars... Yes they are dangerous too, but they are NOT INTENDED to kill, and the modern civilization can't exist without them. And yes, we have to pay a deathly toll for using cars too.

You say that as if all killing is a bad thing.


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