It takes no more work than loading up the install disk and installing. No more time than it took you to upgrade to 10.7 and 10.8. 1 "extra" step that takes less than a minute to do.

10.6 was a different beast altogether. Simply because back then, the kernel had to be modified. In some cases the audio kexts had to be modified. In some cases EFI strings had to be generated in order to get certain GPUs to function properly. Why go through all of this you ask? Well, because people like me can. We choose to. Maybe it's because we like the challenge. Maybe it's because we refuse to pay more money than something is really worth. Maybe it's because we like the freedom to choose for ourselves regardless of the faux limitations. Maybe it's one of 1,000 different reasons.

But again, if not for the people that actually do these things, technology would simply never advance.

Choosing to dig in and learn about hardware, software, code and the like is simply a choice. It's my hobby. Not to mention, I like to make informed decisions. I don't simply spend more money than something is worth because it has a pretty logo and tech support that I'll never need.

Some people play video games, some people go fishing, some people do this, some people do that. How I choose to spend my free time is no indication of how much or little I value my time.

That's just it. Choice. If I want to pay the actual retail value for the same hardware and then later install an "exclusive" operating system on it that isn't supposed to work, then that is my choice. If I want to play the role of a simple consumer and buy whatever people tell me is better, then that's my choice.

The only thing I am discussing here is the simple fact that Mac hardware is in no way shape or form better than PC hardware. They are the same.

What people choose to do with that knowledge, whether it be outright pretend the facts aren't there, simply ignore them, or accept the facts for what they are, is completely up to them.

That's pretty contradictory. If there was a bug in the software, they would simply fix the bug as opposed to sending out free video card upgrades to everyone with a problem. But then, you probably believe you're a special customer.

The very few times my system has an issue, I know within 15-30 minutes what that issue is.

If it's hardware related, I take care of it. If it's software related, I submit bug reports to the developers with as much pertinent info as I can provide. If for some off the wall reason I'm unsure, I spend a few minutes researching the symptoms.

I choose to do these things because I'm not simply a consumer.

How you deal with your computer problems is your choice. You rely on others for answers and to fix the problem; I don't. It's nothing more than a key difference in mindsets.

Sorry if I'm not a slave to my business and actually have what is known as free time? Not really sure what your point here is; but if you're saying that all you do is work and have zero free time, zero hobbies... well, I'd rather not be you.

I'm sure you were. Funny though how most people would have actually named the company as opposed to calling it "the company". But hey, if you did then I must ask... what happened?

Sorry friend, I don't buy your supposed "resume" for a split second.. because had you really been that involved at one point in time, not only would you be able to easily accept the facts for what they are when it comes to the hardware; you wouldn't dare question the reasoning behind why people do things like make "hackintosh" possible.

But hey, BeOpen.com didn't go very far now did it? I mean, it's not like they only had 1 actual release under their belt before the devs moved right along. I wonder why that is... I don't claim to know the history but one can make a pretty well informed assumption that for a software team to move away so quickly must indicate poor internals (management).. so even if you did manage to work for them, I'm not sure how it really applies to this conversation, or why you would think that that would have any bearing on your ability to understand why people "tinker". You clearly weren't a developer though, that much is sure.

As for me, I make no outrageous claims of places I probably never really worked for. I simply build things, tear them down to see how they work, or modify them for my needs. I am content with doing these things - whether as just a hobby, or to aid in making informed decisions - simply because, well, I can.

Another difference between you and I. In your first post on the matter of calling apple support, you mentioned nothing about the "issue" being a bug... "I wanted to see if some odd software hiccups were caused by the type of video card I have" doesn't even begin to suggest that you had prior knowledge of a software bug. I cannot help if it you do not provide the proper info.

Although, you're now claiming you knew it was a bug; but if you actually knew it was a bug then you're description would have been completely different. Had you had prior knowledge of a software bug specific to the gpu kexts as you now claim, then it would have made no sense to have to call and ask if a "software hiccup" was a result of the type of video card you have...

Sorry friend, but you seem to be changing things up to fit your needs as opposed to sticking to the facts.

Not once did I ever try to convince people to not buy Macs. I am simply stating and explaining the fact that the hardware inside of a Mac is in no way shape of form any better than the hardware inside of a PC...

It's not my fault lesser informed individuals are making bogus claims that my PC is akin to a "Honda" and their Mac is akin to a "Porsche" when the actual reality is, if a Mac is akin to a "Porsche" then my PC is akin to, quite simply, a different color "Porsche".

Great. You're almost there. Now if Mac users would stop acting like their computer is better than a pc there will be no more fighting. But ofcourse that's not gonna happen as they refuse to admit they paid 1k extra for a logo.

Nobody cares but you about this, so give it up. It's starting to get annoying. :2 cents:

I admit I paid $1k extra for a logo, but it's what I wanted, and that's all that matters to me. :thumbsup

And as mentioned, you can sell you 5 year old iMac for at least $500 right now.

Just took photos and am going to list two of mine tonight.

I was wondering how long it would take for edgeprod to mention that he used to own a Viper. That was more than a few years old when he owned it and it's been out of his hands for a few years.

You're not as well off as you think you are dude, but it's fun watching you try. :1orglaugh

I am not forcing you to read my posts, am I? You can simply choose not to read them if the facts bother you so much. :2 cents:



And who here has tried to stop you from doing so? I sure haven't