No one could steal your car and commit a crime that gets traced back to you either? Those that are truly innocent will get it sorted out. The rest are just making excuses.

You free content users are all so funny.

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It's my understanding that these people didn't even download the content let alone share it with anyone.

So if they just wrote to an ISP and the ISP gave people's names, shouldn't you be mad at the ISP for not checking to make sure the names that are paying for the IP address actually downloaded the content?

Agaiin, if they didn't need proof Im not sure why they need more producers. How many ISPs will give up names with no evidence? Or are you saying that the IP downloaded it they just can't prove which individual in the household did it?

How can you people comment and know so little???????

We went to the second highest court (one under the supreme court) in the UK and were subjected to huge legal scrutiny and won the case for the ISP to release the physical addresses of the alleged uploaders of copyrighted content.

TBH it's been months since this all happened.

OK so you won in the High Court to get the addresses of the alleged infringes. The problem was the letters saying pay up or see you in court and the law firm published the data of these people online.

Because of this you ended up back in court were a judge quashed most of the cases and demanded that you reword the letters not asking for money.

The law firm you used to do all this has been barred from practicing law for 2 years and fined £76,000 since they clearly broke the law themselves.

Now my problem, is that you are a relatively big player in our small porn economy here in the UK. You are being threatened by the likes of Killergram whose content is far superior to your own.

You business model was heavily reliant on VHS, DVDs and broadcasting. All of which is censored in the UK with the exception of the R18 which can only be bought in person and is therefore useless. You also never made the transition online and stuck to shooting in the UK instead of moving to Eastern Europe. The UK is the worst country to shoot in because only fucking horrible ugly bitches shoot porn here. There are exceptions but even our creme de la creme like Saraha Knite have fucked up teeth and wouldn't be given the time of day with US shooters (if she wasn't South Asian).

So now you aren't making the money you used to. This ain't 1999 anymore! So you decide on a new tactic. Instead of pulling your socks up and building your brand, you decide to destroy it and milk the maybe the last 100k out of it by blackmailing and working with shady legal practices.

I guess it's the way the industry has gone here, which is a shame.

Did the ISP contest anything?

You won a default judgement.

What? You want ISPs to investigate every computer attached to every IP to check if they have downloaded content? How will they do that? Who will pay for the forensic work needed?

Haha, you're funny.


Again, do you read the words in my post or just sit there smearing jam over your face typing the first thing that comes into your head?

They cannot prove the person that pays for the IP address is committing any crime. This is why NONE of these cases have EVER gone to court. If you contest the blackmail letter, they just give up. Because they cannot prove it.

So they need as many producers as poss to sign up so they can send as many letters as poss and extort as much money as poss.

Ever wonder why no other UK porn producers are working with them and they had to go to america to get clients?

Loads have done it in the UK and in the USA, which is how this scam works. You really aren't comprehending any of this are you? It's like discussing something with a potato.

No, they *think* that IP downloaded a file that may or may not be copyrighted material. They can't prove a thing. Which is why it is just a scam for an old washed up porn producer that didn't work out how to make money online.

:2 cents:

A lot of people are taking money from the downloaders now, it has become another income stream. There is a single, simple solution to not getting a letter, don't download something you shouldn't. Problem solved.

Seems most of them don't even make it to court and many pay up upon a demand letter and threat of being exposed. Kudos to everyone who is doing this. All the pirates said "adapt or die" and you adapted. Well done. :2 cents:

Even if it does nothing to stop piracy on a mass scale, you can bet it will stop piracy from the guy who cashes you out. Not to mention, you got paid from someone who tried to steal what was yours. And that is the bottom line.

I have Damian on ignore but by the amount of hidden posts I see of his in here, I can only imagine he is going bat shit crazy over this as he usually does. Pay no attention to him, he is a magician who literally stalks an old man, not a pornographer.

Good luck with what you're doing.

Yeah, that worked well for all the people wrongly accused because someone spoofed their IP, hacked their WEP or had a friend or relative over that was using their wifi connection to infringe on copyright didn't it?

There's no way 150 people could be wrong accused of downloading porn.

Oh wait...

http://www.neowin.net/news/150-wrong...al-downloading

None of them go to court, because there is no evidence to prove the person that pays for the internet account has committed any crime. The scam is to scare people into paying the £700. If they refuse, the case is dropped instantly.

Yeah, let's support blackmail now! woop woop.

/me shakes his head.

I need to smear jam on my face instead of trying to understand why more producers are needed if you can just get names and send letters if ISPs will give up names like you say. The number of letters one company can send is unlimited.

We should really blame the masses of pirates that are spoofing innocent people's IPs to download stolen content. So much injustice. Lets get rid of those guys to protect the innocent.

Someone sounds worried they might be getting a letter.

The lawyers we use have never been fined anything, so more nonsense from people who have no idea and just believe conspiracy theories that they read on the Internet.

"The law firm you used to do all this has been barred from practicing law for 2 years and fined £76,000 since they clearly broke the law themselves."

Davenport Lyons and acs law were fined and struck off for trying the same scam though. Acs went bankrupt because of it, didn't they?

Amazed you found a no win no team willing to take you on after the many legal precedents that have been set.

A) downloading Ben Dover content is like downloading markham's. old, crap and out of date. That is why they are trying this scam. They don't get the Internet and are confused as o why no one is buying their stuff.

B) no one needs to be worried. You just reply denying that you did it, and they go away. Simple.

They aren't using Andrew are they? That would be too much!

Agreed! :2 cents::thumbsup

Julian, I apologize if I go somewhat astray from the thread?s theme,
but could you please get to know why ben-bucks.com stopped paying
their webmasters, at least me? The last payment I received was back in
June of 2012. Now already three checks are in the Pending status. I
apologize once again for writing in this thread, but I cannot get any
reply through the internal NATS's mail, and I cannot also see any
other contacts at ben-bucks.com. My affiliate login at
ben-bucks.com is shakhtar.

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