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Dirty F 01-10-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19418904)
I have reviewed literally 1,000s of websites, I own several hundred of my own sites and have consulted on dozens of major brand sites for clients. If you are interested in a review of your site, feel free to contact me via email or ICQ. You can look over my public portfolio at www.EngineFood.com and I can supply plenty of client testimonials or referrals about my work. Once I see your site I can give you a brief free review and if you want to work together beyond that we can arrange a set price for any additional work, regardless of whether it takes 100 words or 100,000 words to help you with your own internal site evaluation.

With all due respect, the fascination people have with valuing text on a 'per word' basis is badly misguided. If honest feedback is your goal, you are better off paying based on the value of the feedback. 10,000 words is 20-30 pages of text... anyone who sends you a 30 page document either doesn't know how to get their point across in a succinct manner or is word-stuffing to earn an extra $150.00. Most of the actionable feedback you will get probably makes more sense to be written as 'bullet points' with brief descriptions that can be discussed or elaborated on later if it interests you. :2 cents:

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BareBacked 01-10-2013 05:43 PM

I will review it

adultmobile 01-10-2013 06:05 PM

I guess competing cam site guy may be more a spy than a reviewer eh?

Slap Dot 01-10-2013 09:45 PM

not enough posts

hony 01-10-2013 11:32 PM

Maybe you should try to get people who actually understand cam sites to give you feedback... asking for "reviews" is attracting generic paysite reviewers; and we all know that is really different market to cams.

sandman! 01-10-2013 11:51 PM

wow how many people in this thread are clueless

lol

im hopping on going to watch to t&a and email feedback :)

blonda80 01-11-2013 03:34 AM

icq 435 210 585
Almost 7 years experience with paysites, sponsors, webmasters etc in adult
I worked on a position where I saw what sites convert or not so I can give out a few tips on that matter

DamianJ 01-11-2013 04:01 AM

What the OP wants is someone that knows the market to consult and go over his site to check for any problems, show stoppers, or tweaks that could improve it.

He doesn't want a 1c a word reviewer to write praise and submit it to a review site.

lagcam 01-11-2013 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony (Post 19419675)
Maybe you should try to get people who actually understand cam sites to give you feedback... asking for "reviews" is attracting generic paysite reviewers; and we all know that is really different market to cams.

THIS guy knows about cam sites.

But having a critically acclaimed cam site with shiny features and beautiful girls doesn't necessarily mean you will be a success. What is under the hood, that the customers never see is what makes or breaks a site.

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 09:24 AM

Thanks everyone for your participation. I have already gotten some excellent feedback from Sandman, as I had imagined there are some glaring issues that I am too close to the project to see.

Some of you have commented that I am paying too much, I know that $25 or $30 SHOULD be enough to get this done, however my thinking is that the people I want consulting from are people who are already succesful enough to have a reason to post 10,000 times on this board and who are not going to stop what they are doing and focus on improving someone else's business for any length of time without a good reason.

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19419002)
Sent you another 3 messages still nothing.What is your skype id,let's try with that.

My skype ID is my full legal name so I'd rather not post it here. Probably not a wise choice for a screen name but I was in a different business at the time. If you want email me at my username here @yahoo.com and I'll email you my skype.

Klen 01-11-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 19420191)
My skype ID is my full legal name so I'd rather not post it here. Probably not a wise choice for a screen name but I was in a different business at the time. If you want email me at my username here @yahoo.com and I'll email you my skype.

Mail sent

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19420359)
Mail sent

replied.

HomerSimpson 01-11-2013 11:21 AM

contact me up
celebempire {at} gmail.com

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 12:46 PM

Looks like 24 hours has passed and it's time to call the winners:

I am just going down in order:

Winners are:

Sandman: already reviewed it for free, Thanks man!

#1 KlenTaris: Worked really hard to get ahold of me so I kind of had to let him participate

Dirty F: Would have been selected but declined the offer.

vdbucks: offered to review for free so I'll take you up on it.

#2 Woj: Let's do this.

#3 Epitome as one of the first replies in the thread I'll take you up on it.

#4 Camboss: Not sure if you wanted to participate, if you did you're in. If not I'll keep
going down the list.

#5 Markul:

#6 Chris you are You are on standby in case one of the above is not able unwilling to complete the job. If you want to give the money to charity you are welcome to. I would rather put it in your hands first though so you can be sure it's going where you want it to.

So far I have gotten: (thanks again Sandman and others)
? Landing page with successful signup confirmation is not very clear or elegant, should redirect to the site or auto-login.
? Since there are so few models it seems the custom filters are not necessary, especially sort by price, since they are all the same price.
? Should schedule some group shows
? Should have alternative billing available for chip purchases
? Models should enable sound
? Request Private chat button should be bigger and easier to find
? Users who are not logged in can "request private chat" from models, this takes them to a "create an account" form, but that method of signing up does not work, they need to use the nats form, which is accessible from the "register" link at the top of the page.

Hopefully some or all of the above issues will be ironed out by the time you guys get started. I will be hitting you up now, feel free to reach out if I don't get ahold of you fast enough.

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 12:53 PM

OK first payment sent to KlenTaris, waiting for replies on ICQ from Epitome, Woj and Markul, need contact info for Camboss.

Roald 01-11-2013 12:53 PM

I would do it for free if I had some time.

Good luck!

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 01:02 PM

First payout sent to Epitome

Killswitch 01-11-2013 01:03 PM

Not to shit on a legit business thread, but paying based on GFY post count is ridiculous.. Especially when the higher the post count the more you pay... There's a lot of legitimate GOOD business minded people on this board who have been here since 2001 that have less than 400 posts that would be left out for the post whores who have 20,000+ posts (No offense to legit good people who have high post counts, Roald, Epitome, Klen, Dirty F, etc).

You should give a range and pay them based on how good the review is. :2 cents:

kane 01-11-2013 01:22 PM

Good luck on the project. I hope it is a big success for you.

geedub 01-11-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19420672)
Not to shit on a legit business thread, but paying based on GFY post count is ridiculous.. Especially when the higher the post count the more you pay... There's a lot of legitimate GOOD business minded people on this board who have been here since 2001 that have less than 400 posts that would be left out for the post whores who have 20,000+ posts (No offense to legit good people who have high post counts, Roald, Epitome, Klen, Dirty F, etc).

You should give a range and pay them based on how good the review is. :2 cents:

Opinions are like assholes

iSpyCams 01-11-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19420672)
Not to shit on a legit business thread, but paying based on GFY post count is ridiculous.. Especially when the higher the post count the more you pay... There's a lot of legitimate GOOD business minded people on this board who have been here since 2001 that have less than 400 posts that would be left out for the post whores who have 20,000+ posts (No offense to legit good people who have high post counts, Roald, Epitome, Klen, Dirty F, etc).

You should give a range and pay them based on how good the review is. :2 cents:

OK I see your point but honestly, without taking a decade to get to know everyone on a first name basis, post count is a fairly good indicator of time in the industry as well as board participation. I know there's more than one interpretation for it, just like every other statistic out there.

This is mean to be kind of a crazy idea anyway, and its obvious overkill like killing a mosquito with a 12 gauge. I wanted 5 industry pros to give me a rundown on my sites main weaknesses and I didn't want to drudge through a bunch of 3rd world newbies desperate to make a couple bucks with nothing valuable to offer.

sandman! 01-11-2013 02:05 PM

seems like everything i wrote in the email lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 19420630)
Looks like 24 hours has passed and it's time to call the winners:

I am just going down in order:

Winners are:

Sandman: already reviewed it for free, Thanks man!

#1 KlenTaris: Worked really hard to get ahold of me so I kind of had to let him participate

Dirty F: Would have been selected but declined the offer.

vdbucks: offered to review for free so I'll take you up on it.

#2 Woj: Let's do this.

#3 Epitome as one of the first replies in the thread I'll take you up on it.

#4 Camboss: Not sure if you wanted to participate, if you did you're in. If not I'll keep
going down the list.

#5 Markul:

#6 Chris you are You are on standby in case one of the above is not able unwilling to complete the job. If you want to give the money to charity you are welcome to. I would rather put it in your hands first though so you can be sure it's going where you want it to.

So far I have gotten: (thanks again Sandman and others)
? Landing page with successful signup confirmation is not very clear or elegant, should redirect to the site or auto-login.
? Since there are so few models it seems the custom filters are not necessary, especially sort by price, since they are all the same price.
? Should schedule some group shows
? Should have alternative billing available for chip purchases
? Models should enable sound
? Request Private chat button should be bigger and easier to find
? Users who are not logged in can "request private chat" from models, this takes them to a "create an account" form, but that method of signing up does not work, they need to use the nats form, which is accessible from the "register" link at the top of the page.

Hopefully some or all of the above issues will be ironed out by the time you guys get started. I will be hitting you up now, feel free to reach out if I don't get ahold of you fast enough.


Va2k 01-11-2013 02:10 PM

Damn wish I would of seen this myself yesterday I would of done it for you for free or link trade or something like that, like someone said your are a dieing bread its hard to find good biz threads so when I do I like to help as much as I can brother.

Have a good one think I will go take a much needed break for 30 or so min's :)

TOM

Klen 01-11-2013 03:01 PM

I dont see his idea based on post count bad,because usually sigwhores/contest whores avoid every thread unless it's a contest which giving prizes based on getting right post number.Since this require intelligence and not just pure luck it eliminates bad posters.

iSpyCams 01-15-2013 08:27 AM

I am still here and this is still going on.

I am not expediting the reviews because I have already gotten some excellent design feedback which I am scrambling to implement. When this is done I will be hitting you guys up to complete your tasks.

IF YOU WERE SELECTED AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF YOUR PROMISED PAYMENT ITS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE YOUR PAYPAL ADDRESS.

My ICQ, once again is 353 four nine six 007

DamianJ 01-15-2013 08:30 AM

Don't change things because someone said so. Put the changes into a multivariant test and see which ones work.

Farang 01-15-2013 08:34 AM

Your signature is annoying.

iSpyCams 01-15-2013 08:41 AM

It is? I can't see it cause I put myself on ignore. I like your graph of me not giving a fuck over time though, it's very accurate.

Farang 01-15-2013 08:44 AM

Quite a smartass arent ya

mechanicvirus 01-15-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farang (Post 19426153)
Quite a smartass arent ya

lol:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

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