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brassmonkey 01-14-2013 09:41 PM

not going to work. lets see how far he can go :)

mineistaken 01-14-2013 09:47 PM

At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

DTK 01-14-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19425512)
At least certain degree of dictatorship is in every muslim's blood. Unless a guy named Hussein is not a muslim.

trolling or joking?

PornoMonster 01-14-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19425285)
It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

Tell me ONE thing that would of stopped the last school shooting?

Yes, the mom should of had the guns locked up, I am guessing in the police report, that she didn't. So Let's throw her body in Jail.

Jusy a FYI, I am for stricter gun laws on obtaining weapons, and background checks.

PornoMonster 01-14-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19425418)
Guns that existed when second amendment was written:

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/cwg7...k-musket-s.JPG

Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

http://www.the-blueprints.com/bluepr...ault-rifle.gif

You can take the second amendment route and say, that is what the Military also had at the time! Thus the second picture is again what the military has now.

Or, your second picture is nothing more than a semi auto weapon with lip stick.
I can fire my 30-06 just as fast as the AR-15 and yep can buy, or make large capacity magazines.

Then again, I think the Campus shooting was just handguns??? 32 Killed 17 wounded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre

AutumnBH 01-14-2013 10:01 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ZBy5b.jpg

mineistaken 01-14-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425515)
trolling or joking?

40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious

TCLGirls 01-14-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace (Post 19425394)
Stupid people say stupid things...


LOL that's quite funny coming from someone who said this: "Other CLAIMEDpresidents..."

DTK 01-14-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19425530)
40% joking 40% trolling 20% serious

so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?

mineistaken 01-14-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425543)
so at least 20% of you believes that count chocula is a muslim?

A little less, because part of those 20% goes for my other statement about muslims having dictatorship gene :winkwink:
I would say 10% of me believes that. Its either muslim or atheist. No way Christian. But we know that you can not win oval office not claiming to be Christian.
Plus how many people have different religion than their parents? Not many. You claim that one man named Hussien is one of those exceptions?
Actually give it more than 10% :)

GrantMercury 01-14-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19425285)
It's the same thing as usual...first everyone expresses their sorrow for the loss of life, then the gun nuts wait for a while and come out swinging. Do any of you stop to think for a second about a six year old kids with their jaws blown off, before you defend your precious right to own an assault rifle? Isn't their any room for compromise with with you people?

I'm also a gun lover...but I can't understand why there can't be some measures taken that doesn't cut into the second ammendment. It's either all or nothing with you idiots.

Well said.

http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress....ng?w=300&h=255

JFK 01-14-2013 10:17 PM

oh never mind
:disgust

GrantMercury 01-14-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19425346)
Yeah I can't believe Obama came up with those things called Executive Orders.

Next he's probably going to invent something called signing statements.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BFT3K 01-14-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19425524)
You can take the second amendment route and say, that is what the Military also had at the time!

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/cwg7...k-musket-s.JPG

http://www.the-blueprints.com/bluepr...ault-rifle.gif

Or, your second picture is nothing more than a semi auto weapon with lip stick.
I can fire my 30-06 just as fast as the AR-15 and yep can buy, or make large capacity magazines.

Exactly! That's why I think we should all have attack helicopters, otherwise we're at a clear disadvantage when going toe-to-toe against the current US army. It only makes sense!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq5v8T4edi...1600/AH_1Z.jpg

DTK 01-14-2013 10:23 PM

54 dictators that are no more dictators than the last half dozen presidents

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19425546)
A little less, because part of those 20% goes for my other statement about muslims having dictatorship gene :winkwink:
I would say 10% of me believes that. Its either muslim or atheist. No way Christian. But wee know that you can not win oval office not claiming to be Christian.

so at least 10% of you is a total idiot. that's ok, about the same as any other human, myself included

GrantMercury 01-14-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425423)
Speaking of which.....

Today, just a month after the NRA blamed the Newtown tragedy on violent video games (among other things), they released a new 'target practice' app with coffin-shaped targets and head-and-heart bullseyes.

Jesus. The NRA are a pack of swine. :disgust

mineistaken 01-14-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425560)
54 dictators that are no more dictators than the last half dozen presidents



so at least 10% of you is a total idiot. that's ok, about the same as any other human, myself included

Explain why thinking that a son of muslim father and atheist mother named Hussein could be muslim or atheist is totally idiotic?
Especially adding the fact that you must claim to be Christian in order to run for president.

GrantMercury 01-14-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19425558)
Exactly! That's why I think we should all have attack helicopters, otherwise we're at a clear disadvantage when going toe-to-toe against the current US army. It only makes sense!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq5v8T4edi...1600/AH_1Z.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DTK 01-14-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19425569)
Explain why thinking that a son of muslim father and atheist mother named Hussein could be muslim or atheist is totally idiotic?
Especially adding the fact that you must claim to be Christian in order to run for president.

dude, stop already

obama's nothing more than a corrupt politician, just like 99% of dem and rep politicians.

he just follows orders like the 99% i mentioned

mineistaken 01-14-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425578)
dude, stop already

obama's nothing more than a corrupt politician, just like 99% of dem and rep politicians.

he just follows orders like the 99% i mentioned

Hmm, did I even argue that? :1orglaugh

PornDiscounts-V 01-14-2013 10:50 PM

Next it will be our farmers who defend their right to fertilizer in mass quantities as we all talk about how some nut blew up a school.

Heath 01-14-2013 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425578)
dude, stop already

obama's nothing more than a corrupt politician, just like 99% of dem and rep politicians.

he just follows orders like the 99% i mentioned

Best post by far.

To anyone who disagree's, you're a troll or moron. Period.

I don't care to respond to any of the posts directed to me, because, well.. Stupidity doesn't require a response.

TCLGirls 01-14-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace (Post 19425619)
I don't care to respond to any of the posts directed to me, because, well.. Stupidity doesn't require a response.

Ok Mr. "CLAIMEDpresidents" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Heath 01-14-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Populace (Post 19425619)
Best post by far.

To anyone who disagree's, you're a troll or moron. Period.

I don't care to respond to any of the posts directed to me, because, well.. Stupidity doesn't require a response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19425558)
Exactly! That's why I think we should all have attack helicopters, otherwise we're at a clear disadvantage when going toe-to-toe against the current US army. It only makes sense!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq5v8T4edi...1600/AH_1Z.jpg

You must really live in a shit country if you can't afford attack helicopters. How the hell are you even online, the former USSR has had these bad boys on ebay for a while now.

Rochard 01-14-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425423)
Speaking of which.....

Today, just a month after the NRA blamed the Newtown tragedy on violent video games (among other things), they released a new 'target practice' app with coffin-shaped targets and head-and-heart bullseyes.

They also launched a version for kids too I read.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ages-4-and-up/.

WTF is going on here? The NRA used to be about gun safety and now it's promoting gun games to four year olds? No wonder why they don't give a shit about six and seven year olds getting shot.

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19425466)

Fuck that shill, does anyone actually believe that he was looking out for the people's best interests? He was a puppet just like the rest...

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19425418)
Guns that existed when second amendment was written:

http://www.johnnyg.westhost.com/cwg7...k-musket-s.JPG

Guns they are worried about people getting their hands on now:

http://www.the-blueprints.com/bluepr...ault-rifle.gif

So if the day ever comes that Americans are being brutally oppressed and need to defend their freedoms you would rather they be armed with muskets instead of assault rifles? Why would you want to put yourself at a disadvantage? People want to ban assault rifles? That is the dumbest thing ever... they are the most efficient weapon...

It would already be a tough enough fight with assault rifles, but people want to be even more limited than that?

If Americans somehow had assault rifles in the 1700's there would have been a lot less dead patriots and a lot more dead tyrants.

These weapons are meant to be tucked away, never to be used (except maybe training and practice) until the day that tyranny tries to take over this free nation.

This is why Thomas Jefferson said the beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it doesn't need to be used until someone tries to take it away.

Just because one psychotic individual happened to get his hands on one of these weapons and use it for the wrong purpose does not change the bigger picture.

kane 01-15-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19425724)
So if the day ever comes that Americans are being brutally oppressed and need to defend their freedoms you would rather they be armed with muskets instead of assault rifles? Why would you want to put yourself at a disadvantage? People want to ban assault rifles? That is the dumbest thing ever... they are the most efficient weapon...

It would already be a tough enough fight with assault rifles, but people want to be even more limited than that?

If Americans somehow had assault rifles in the 1700's there would have been a lot less dead patriots and a lot more dead tyrants.

These weapons are meant to be tucked away, never to be used (except maybe training and practice) until the day that tyranny tries to take over this free nation.

This is why Thomas Jefferson said the beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it doesn't need to be used until someone tries to take it away.

Just because one psychotic individual happened to get his hands on one of these weapons and use it for the wrong purpose does not change the bigger picture.

If that day ever comes he success or failure of any defense against the government will hinge on one thing: whether or not the people in the military side with the government or the people. If they side with the government you can have a room full of AR-15's and all the bullets you can carry and it will do you zero good.

If they side with the people it is a different story and there will be plenty of guns for those who wish to use them.

Elli 01-15-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19425397)
If you want to talk about deaths and suicides you should be posting prescription medication statistics. The elephant in the room that no one wants to address...

I totally agree. Those magic meds are overprescribed like they're candy. And to children!
However, this is where we talk about gun control. Prescription drugs are a separate problem. You can't say "yes, but we have this other problem, so it's ok to not think about this problem." I mean, you can, but it's not going to go anywhere.

DTK 01-15-2013 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19425654)
They also launched a version for kids too I read.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ages-4-and-up/.

WTF is going on here? The NRA used to be about gun safety and now it's promoting gun games to four year olds? No wonder why they don't give a shit about six and seven year olds getting shot.

I'll keep sayin' it...
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Originally Posted by DTK
I keep saying it and I'll say it again - the leadership of the NRA are nothing more than paid whores for the gun manufacturers. They don't give a damn about the will of their membership, they just want to help their paymasters sell more guns.


StickyGreen 01-15-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19425754)
If that day ever comes he success or failure of any defense against the government will hinge on one thing: whether or not the people in the military side with the government or the people. If they side with the government you can have a room full of AR-15's and all the bullets you can carry and it will do you zero good.

If they side with the people it is a different story and there will be plenty of guns for those who wish to use them.

You're wrong when you say it would do "zero" good.

"Zero good" would happen if the public was completely disarmed.

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19425768)
You can't say "yes, but we have this other problem, so it's ok to not think about this problem."

Guns are not even a problem to begin with, they are inanimate objects.

The crazy psychotropic drugs are a problem because they literally alter the chemistry of a person's brain, including young children as you said, and this can result in them doing something bad with an inanimate object.

It's obviously not the only reason that bad things happen, but it is definitely one of the main culprits and it always seems to be ignored, especially by the media.

kane 01-15-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19425793)
You're wrong when you say it would do "zero" good.

"Zero good" would happen if the public was completely disarmed.

So your AR-15 is going to shoot down a jet fighter or take out a tank? Your AR-15 is going to do you exactly how much good against a battleship that is sitting miles off the coast and shelling you or a drone that zero's in on you and takes you out from thousands of feet in the air?

I'm not advocating for disarming the public. That will do no good and just cause unrest, anger and violence. The problem is the gun nut conspiracy theorists like to sit in a dark room jerking off to reruns of "Red Dawn" screaming "WOLVERINES!" as they cum while envisioning themselves taking their rifle into the woods and leading a resistance against the military occupation.

The reality, as I said, is if there came a day that one of the US leaders tried to overtake the country via military force how it turns out will depends on how men and women that run our military react. We hope they will tell those leaders to pack sand refuse to do as they order, but if they don't things are not going to turn out well because even if every citizen in the nation had a gun it is still nothing compared the firepower the US military can wield.

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19425821)
So your AR-15 is going to shoot down a jet fighter or take out a tank? Your AR-15 is going to do you exactly how much good against a battleship that is sitting miles off the coast and shelling you or a drone that zero's in on you and takes you out from thousands of feet in the air?

The resistance would most likely hideout in civilian areas, so the scenario you're describing would be more like all-out genocide. If that's the case then of course the public will be outmatched, they would get slaughtered.

But in a more realistic scenario 300 million armed Americans really isn't something to take lightly.

Look at the fight those gangs in the middle east have put up for all these years with not much more than rifles.

kane 01-15-2013 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19425830)
The resistance would most likely hideout in civilian areas, so the scenario you're describing would be more like all-out genocide. If that's the case then of course the public will be outmatched, they would get slaughtered.

But in a more realistic scenario 300 million armed Americans really isn't something to take lightly.

Look at the fight those gangs in the middle east have put up for all these years with not much more than rifles.

A more realistic scenario is that half the country would just go along with whatever new government there was so long as they were safe, able to feed themselves, had a job and a place to live.

The resistance could be small pockets of people who would strike military targets and the new government would brand as terrorists then one fine afternoon as they stepped out of cover a sniper would take them out from half a mile away.

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19425838)
A more realistic scenario is that half the country would just go along with whatever new government there was so long as they were safe, able to feed themselves, had a job and a place to live.

The resistance could be small pockets of people who would strike military targets and the new government would brand as terrorists then one fine afternoon as they stepped out of cover a sniper would take them out from half a mile away.

If half the country is still able to go along as if everything is just fine then it probably wouldn't be a dire enough situation to call for armed resistance anyways.

MPGdevil 01-15-2013 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Populace (Post 19425619)
Dictator Obama readies 19 executive actions on guns


Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19425578)
obama's nothing more than a corrupt politician, just like 99% of dem and rep politicians.

he just follows orders like the 99% i mentioned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Populace (Post 19425619)
Best post by far.

To anyone who disagree's, you're a troll or moron. Period.

So is he a dictator or a puppet just following orders? Make up your mind.

kane 01-15-2013 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19425846)
If half the country is still able to go along as if everything is just fine then it probably wouldn't be a dire enough situation to call for armed resistance anyways.

Which ultimately leads me to my core belief which is that our government is set up in a way that a military coup and martial law style takeover of the government would be nearly impossible thus making the argument that a person needs an AR-15 to protect themselves from the government null and void. Again, I'm not saying take them away from people I'm just calling on those who buy them and like them to be honest and admit that shooting it gives you a hardon and it makes you feel good and important and perhaps fills void in your life so you own one.

I have a friend that has a couple of semi-auto assault rifles. He shoots them in competitions and enjoys shooting them them as a hobby. Cool. Fine by me. If he also told me he takes it out in the woods, burns through three clips as fast as he can then jerks off all over the still hot shell casings I wouldn't care. At least he is honest. But to say that he owns them because he may be called upon to defend himself against the government is pretty indigenous to me.

PornoMonster 01-15-2013 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19425857)
Which ultimately leads me to my core belief which is that our government is set up in a way that a military coup and martial law style takeover of the government would be nearly impossible thus making the argument that a person needs an AR-15 to protect themselves from the government null and void. Again, I'm not saying take them away from people I'm just calling on those who buy them and like them to be honest and admit that shooting it gives you a hardon and it makes you feel good and important and perhaps fills void in your life so you own one.

I have a friend that has a couple of semi-auto assault rifles. He shoots them in competitions and enjoys shooting them them as a hobby. Cool. Fine by me. If he also told me he takes it out in the woods, burns through three clips as fast as he can then jerks off all over the still hot shell casings I wouldn't care. At least he is honest. But to say that he owns them because he may be called upon to defend himself against the government is pretty indigenous to me.

It is kinda silly, BUT
it doesn't change why it was put there. Also in Urban combat LOTS of troops are killed.
IRAQ - Afghan -
They do not have any Jets, Tanks, Drones and so on, yet hundreds of Americans have died.
Can be said for several third world countries, many groups start out with smaller weapons and overtake bigger ones Also if any military change sides, they have ONE weapon issued to them not an extra for you and me!

Ask the Russians how Rocks and Chains defeated helicopters..

Personally if anything even close to LA Riots, or a natural disaster and people come to loot my shit, love to have what it takes....

Maybe I might want to drop about 10-15 rounds in the ground by someones feet to try to stop them.

Or I guess I could just go for 3 of the 6 center mass, from a revolver.

It isn't the Weapons, it isn't the amount of rounds, it is the nuts getting them and slow ass Police response time.

Why do the police have AR-15's? With 30 round magazines?
It has been ruled they are not there to Protect you, so we face the SAME threats they do!

StickyGreen 01-15-2013 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 19425857)
Which ultimately leads me to my core belief which is that our government is set up in a way that a military coup and martial law style takeover of the government would be nearly impossible thus making the argument that a person needs an AR-15 to protect themselves from the government null and void. Again, I'm not saying take them away from people I'm just calling on those who buy them and like them to be honest and admit that shooting it gives you a hardon and it makes you feel good and important and perhaps fills void in your life so you own one.

I have a friend that has a couple of semi-auto assault rifles. He shoots them in competitions and enjoys shooting them them as a hobby. Cool. Fine by me. If he also told me he takes it out in the woods, burns through three clips as fast as he can then jerks off all over the still hot shell casings I wouldn't care. At least he is honest. But to say that he owns them because he may be called upon to defend himself against the government is pretty indigenous to me.

You seem to talk a lot about people jerking off and jizzing on their guns and shit, it's pretty weird... lol, but anyways...

Do you actually believe it's impossible that the USA could ever fall to tyranny? Based on the way human history has unfolded I'd say it's more like an inevitability. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not in 5 years, maybe not in 50 years, but it's likely to happen. They don't say "history repeats itself" for no reason.

Alexander Tytler's Cycle:

http://www.commonsensegovernment.com//pix/tytler.jpg

The famous Fatal Sequence quotation, sometimes known as the Tytler cycle, is

"The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Tytler


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