Exactly. Me too.

Good karma for you, dude. That's nice. It'll come back to you, sooner or later. :thumbsup

It's generally 18% because of the tipout. As mentioned earlier. Server assistants/bussers, bartenders, food runners and sometimes even hostesses/hosts all get a percentage.

That makes sense.

Blacks don't tip. Nothing new.

I read into this a bit more and this girl wasn't the waitress who served the Pastor she took the picture of another waitresses ticket and posted it. The Pastor called in and wanted everyone (both waitresses and both managers one off duty and one off duty) fired. Just the one girl was fired.

Black Jesus would have done the same thing I guess.

I never understood that concept. I bring more people = spend more money and as a result they force the tips on you ?
Funny part is if you are 10 and split the bill into 2 groups of 5 (more work) they usually do not add it.

I usually tip in the range of 20-30%, if a tip is added automatically I don't tip anything extra. If I am not happy with the service or the food I am not tipping.

If I don't tip I usually leave a mark on the bill saying what I'm not happy about so its something the restaurant / waiter can improve if they feel its important for them. If they don't I can only assume that the extra work needed to make me happy isn't worth the tip for them :winkwink:

Yeah that article was poorly wrote cause the title/sub title says

Waitress who posted 'God receipt' fired
Pastor refused to pay automatic 18% gratuity

but like you said it wasn't even her waitress but a fellow waitress working there too.. Also she did actually pay the 18% tip as it was already added into the bill.. In the video the pastor said she left $6 in cash haha but with her leaving that note on the bill and with her being embarassed I'm sure she is just making that up..


This type of shit pisses me off cause I've been taught to always show respect to those that are serving you. So I tip very well. I also don't think the 18% auto tip for larger parties is too much as the waitress has to work 4 to 5 times harder for a table of 10 which this was compared to a table of 2.

To me if you want to take out your gf and are a cheapskate and leave her only a few quarters fine. But when you are a pastor and are bringing 9 other people out then tip well cause the waitress is working a lot harder and is prolly going to be there servicing your party a lot.

My motto is if you can't afford to tip don't go out. Go to a drive thru or prepare and serve yourself. Don't ask a waitress to wait on you for her base $2.13 a hour.

Now if I go out with just me and a girl and get really bad service I'll leave just 15% (compared to my 20-30% normal) and say something to the manager if he or she is around. It's never about being mean. I'll just say something like.. "Hey the food was great tonight but our waitress was a little slow.. Maybe she is having a off night or has other personal problems but again the food was great." By doing this you are letting her manager know that she might not be doing great and maybe he'll ask her if she's alright. If you leave her a small or no tip the only thing you are doing is making yourself look cheap. Also making the waitress in a worse mood and she will more likely to be a shitty waitress the rest of the night.

here's an idea - get a job at a restaurant and spend 2 hours waiting on 10 black people for $2 tip. Maybe then you will understand.
How is "not happy with food" is waiters fault? He's not the one cooking it.

50 cheap pastors :2 cents:

If you come in with a large group you are going to take up a lot of that server's time. That is time they could be spending on other guests so the place wants to make sure that the server gets a good tip. It would suck if you put in a ton of effort serving a party of 10 and they left you a tiny little tip.

If its not the waiters fault and not my fault, why should I be the one paying for it ? I have tipped generously before even when sending food back, its all about how the waiter handles the situation.


If the waiter doesn't like the conditions they work under they should consider finding another job..
If the owner doesn't care about the feedback its not going to improve, the owner will see their good staff leave and bad staff staying and eventually kill their own business.
Again, as its not my business its not really my concern....
If anything I'd say I am helping the employees as it would help getting a dialogue started at their workplace, if everybody did this the shitty places would be forced to clean up..

It's funny you think its my responsibility to pay their wages..Like everybody have to chip in so there is a piece for everybody and nobody is left behind. Isn't that what communism is all about ?

I get it. You are that shitty tipper who uses "I didn't like the food" excuse to stiff the waiter instead of telling manager or cook who cooked it.
Some poor college kid is busting his ass for you because thats probably the only job he can have while going to college, and you reward him with "my pasta had too much oil in it, so no tip for you". As if he has control over how much oil cook puts in it.

The problem is that often times people give great service and still get shitty tips or no tips at all.

I can understand tipping very little or not at all if the service sucked or there were major problems, however, to me tipping well just seems like the decent thing to do especially if you come in with a big group and get good service, but there are a lot cheap people out there.

I've noticed typically the service gets worse because the waiter think their tip is "secured"

What option is best:
1: Group of 10 people eats for $500 and leave a tiny tip, lets say 10%
2: Group of 10 people spend $500 at the restaurant next door.

yea it sure does suck dealing with the general public.

You are right. I'm sure if you asked 100 waiters if they would rather make $50 on a $500 bill from a group of 10 or nothing, they would take the $50.

If you asked them whether they would prefer to serve a group of 10 and make a $50 or serve five couples that each tipped them $15 you would get a different answer.

If you asked them if they would rather serve a group of 10 that left a zero tip or have them go elsewhere, they likely wouldn't care if the people ate somewhere else.

I have never waited tables, but the current GF put herself through college doing just that and she tells me that on an average night about 15-20% of the people leave a token tip or no tip at all. It wasn't just her or that she sucked at the job. She was good at the job and she is hot so guys often tipped her well, but she said it was that way for all of the servers. Maybe it was just where she worked. She just told me that if she had her choice she would stay away from big groups unless she knew them because the odds are they were going to tip like 5% and she could make more serving smaller tables.

1 well 10% at $500 would be a $50 tip for 10 people.


this isn't even about the %.. This is about a pastor that brings 9 other people and her bill was ONLY $28 and she was complaining about a $6 added in tip. Think about what you can get for $28 for 10 people?? They ordered a few appetizers and all drank coffee and water. People like that want to sit for hours and want their water or coffee refilled often.

I worked in a small store in high school and then at Radio Shack for a little while right after high school. I hated dealing with the public. Radio Shack was the worst. Guys would come in and buy a $2 battery then want to talk to you about transistors and capacitors and shortwave radio.

This thread desperately needs this:

Option 3:

Group of 10 cheap asses hit KFC and eat there while restaurant next door serves 5 couples who tip they way normal people do. Sounds like win-win situation to me.

If thats what you think then nothing I'll say will make you change your mind anyway.

To get back to the initial point it sounds like you are perfectly fine with giving generous tips for crap food and crap service ?

Crap service - no
Crap food I go to manager and tell him its crap. Server had nothing to do with me not liking the food.
Do you blame car sales rep when you have recall on your Bridgestone tires?
Wonder how many times you used crappy food excuse to stiff the server. I bet every other time you find something wrong with your food or drink.

I got to thinking. I don't think I have ever in my life seen a Pastor or Preacher tithe. I have however seen a number of them tip with tithe money at strip clubs.

Years ago when I was a service advisor, I worked for a Rolls Royce dealer and this local TV Rev used to come in. He had bought a used Rolls from them before I came to work there. They told me he paid for it cash, and it was all small bills. The type people throw in the collection plate. lol Also those types of preachers dont have a governing body. Its like Im starting a church, Im now a preacher or Im a bishop if I get a chain of them.

I agree, I think its more of an excuse. Ive seen people get perfect serve and they leave a dollar on the table.

Yeah there's one here in town (a black guy) who's in some deep shit for embezzling among other things who was rolling around in a Bently.

From that perspective it makes sense, I'm not viewing it from the perspective of the waiter. I look at it from the perspective of the restaurant owner.
The restaurant owner is the one who have the final call about wages, food quality and service levels.
Normally I go to the better rated places so I usually don't run into those problems, if going to a $10-$15 / dish place there is a clear difference in the service. The places they try and "guess" the tips you'll give upfront is usually the worst. You'll either end up with a obviously fake friend of a waiter who smell some easy tips or someone just ignores you if you are out with kids etc
The waiter is usually THE person who can give you a good or bad feeling about a restaurant almost regardless of how the food is. I tip based on how "special" the waiter/waiters made me or my guests feel.

Pretty disgusting to wrap her cheapness in a 'god' cloak. What an asshole

Absolutely, like these retards at this restaurant..

Could you believe this, the kitchen and restaurant wasn't even separated and you had to walk through the kitchen to get in. On top of that they served the dessert directly from the box and ....

WTF is up with that ?

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dairy queen.

"$3.99 is such a deal, it's a steal" illicit'd the wildest tantrum regarding 'accusations of theft', whatever you are now imagining doesn't even come close to how bizarre it was

intellectual upper class kits type.

WTF is a lot of places doing this! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
I've seen lots of Italian restaurants this way to show customers that its clean back there and see how its done. My favorite place has focaccia bread, salad prep station and pasta mixing station wide open. Lots Japanese places do it this way as well and Im not talking Hibachi. I wonder what kind of restaurants you used to. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Maybe you should stop speculating how everyone is out there to get an extra dollar from you. Are you a mind reader? More I read you rubbish more I see cheap ass jew whining about being cheated because he wants to substitute tomatoes for more lox on his bagel. :1orglaugh

+1.

To me, the server has to be blatantly rude, or clearly fucking off while I wait, for me to stiff them on the tip.

It is. That's how the system works.

Would you rather the restaurant pay their servers better by raising the food and drink prices? That's one way to handle it, I suppose. Then the server would have no incentive to provide the best possible service. I hear that's how they handle it at McDonalds.

Only broke ass losers don't tip. You're not paying the waiters wages anymore than if the restaurant paid them and raised prices.

Quit making excuses. If you don't want to participate in the going out experience that involves tipping don't go out at all.

Also, 20% is the new 15%.

I have tons of confidence in a restaurant that has a kitchen open to the public to see.


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