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seXXXhub 02-04-2013 03:28 PM

looks like a site made in '98

Wizzo 02-04-2013 03:29 PM

Check out JuicyAds, though like mentioned above I would fix the site problems first. :pimp

JosephFM 02-04-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19464363)
i heard the owners of livejasmin came on gfy when they just started and were looking for advice.

people made fun of them for their broken english

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

not saying this guy will make it, but less of the insults!

And the same thing about that crazy guy that owns the camgirls.com. I hear he's doing pretty good.

2MuchMark 02-04-2013 04:29 PM

Hey ad sellers, PLEASE don't sell him any advertising for his site yet. That would just be raping the poor guy.

sungat123, please take our advice : Fix your website first. Make it look ALOT better. Fix all of the dead links.

Create model profiles for each of your models. Give your customers something to do, read and click on so they stay on your site.

Add a forum to your site. http://vbulletin.com. This gives users something else to do, and keeps them coming back to view updates, and gives you a place to place ads later if you want to that hopefully compliments your site, not competes with it.

Remove the competing ads - especially they "Dont pay for webcam chat ever again" ad. You are shooting yourself in the foot with an ad like that.

rogueteens 02-04-2013 04:49 PM

whats a topy?

spiederman 02-04-2013 04:53 PM

you have ur own camplatform, why r u linking to exposedwebcams?
and you give a popunder to exposedwebcams

i guess u dont want the visitor to stay on your site?

DamianJ 02-04-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19464254)
dude i could make a design in 10 mins and be better than your whole "Site"

To be fair, Markham could.

DamianJ 02-04-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19464363)
i heard the owners of livejasmin came on gfy when they just started and were looking for advice.

people made fun of them for their broken english

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

not saying this guy will make it, but less of the insults!

Not many are insulting his shit english, more his shit comprehension of the industry.

seeandsee 02-04-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungat123 (Post 19464138)
i have a cam site topycam.com
i hire 20 models, i need some traffic about 10000visitors atleast or more
how can i get fast visitors
google adwords costs me a lot please tell me another way to big relevent traffic

Check for adult webcam traffic on TRAFFIC SHOP ! :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 02-04-2013 07:19 PM

you are, literally, wasting time and money on this...nobody here is supporting your idea and there is a very good reason for this: it's shit ...what makes it shit is your painfully obvious inexperience in this business...

quit now...forget running your own webcam site...

put the models on an established traffic platform...if the models are not actually your models, but you chatted them up on the internet, you have actually 0 models...you are a new site and if you think they are going to leave their current cash sites and work for you for 2-3 weeks and hope to get payed then :1orglaugh it is simply not going to happen...

seriously, everything about your idea is shit...

JFK 02-04-2013 07:23 PM

fitty urgent trafic:pimp

2013 02-04-2013 07:36 PM

I don't really care but I'll give you an example of a guy that started his cam site last week https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1097005&highlight=curvy

He's a good guy, but his site is shit u can't do that these days you need to just get paid promoting the shit... as i said someone will have to bump this thread because it seems like your site is going to end up a 404 page

I hope this page get's your site some attention but if i clicked your site id block it so i wouldn't have to go there again.

sungat123 02-05-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19464460)
Hey ad sellers, PLEASE don't sell him any advertising for his site yet. That would just be raping the poor guy.

sungat123, please take our advice : Fix your website first. Make it look ALOT better. Fix all of the dead links.

Create model profiles for each of your models. Give your customers something to do, read and click on so they stay on your site.

Add a forum to your site. http://vbulletin.com. This gives users something else to do, and keeps them coming back to view updates, and gives you a place to place ads later if you want to that hopefully compliments your site, not competes with it.

Remove the competing ads - especially they "Dont pay for webcam chat ever again" ad. You are shooting yourself in the foot with an ad like that.

infact i am not in very hurry. i also need some time before adverting the site
your advices are valuable
thanks for all share

sungat123 02-05-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 19464364)
Thank you sungat123 for your nice words, do i know you?

yes friend
i am webmaster . i have been looking forward to advance in live cam site
i am new here but hope i will establish my self

adultmobile 02-05-2013 09:02 AM

It is true the livejasmin guys started a site for the model "jasmin" alone, with buggy firecracker soft, then added few gf's, and posting here in gfy may have looked like hey this is losers with broken english.
So respects to the guy who tries, how many of you are running own cam site with models online, after all.
And that's not the first new cam site with all models offline, actually I could list dozens of cam sites with zero online models in this moment :)

Just this was 10 years ago when jasmin, mfc and so on started, and it was easier to start. Now we're in 2013, and be as smart as jasmin or mfc 10 years ago, or more smart than them, it is not enough. You can have the same or better site and software as mfc, jasmin or anyone, and the best strategy what to do, still you fail if budget is $500. You need simply lots of money to invest, added to do all well.

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

x-rate 02-05-2013 09:07 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1098362
You are selling it or you wanna run it?

Tjeezers 02-05-2013 09:40 AM

http://gfy.asonofabitch.com/images/tjeezers/topycam.png

Google Expert 02-05-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungat123 (Post 19464220)
i can bear 5$ per 1000 clicks banner ads e

oh, so you want clicked traffic for $0.005 / click

why so modest?

:1orglaugh

xNetworx 02-05-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cylon (Post 19465636)
oh, so you want clicked traffic for $0.005 / click

why so modest?

:1orglaugh

You with bluedesignstudios.com?

2intense 02-05-2013 02:00 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19465663)
You with bluedesignstudios.com?


2013 02-05-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19465663)
You with bluedesignstudios.com?

busted:Oh crap

Kovachi 02-05-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19465491)
It is true the livejasmin guys started a site for the model "jasmin" alone, with buggy firecracker soft, then added few gf's, and posting here in gfy may have looked like hey this is losers with broken english.
So respects to the guy who tries, how many of you are running own cam site with models online, after all.
And that's not the first new cam site with all models offline, actually I could list dozens of cam sites with zero online models in this moment :)

Just this was 10 years ago when jasmin, mfc and so on started, and it was easier to start. Now we're in 2013, and be as smart as jasmin or mfc 10 years ago, or more smart than them, it is not enough. You can have the same or better site and software as mfc, jasmin or anyone, and the best strategy what to do, still you fail if budget is $500. You need simply lots of money to invest, added to do all well.

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

Half million? You invested around $300 in tubecamgirl.

Google Expert 02-05-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19465663)
You with bluedesignstudios.com?

No, i had some great designs done by them so I recommend them in my sig. I have no idea why you are having problems, bluedesignstudios work with lots of top programs and webmaster without any issues. They are top notch in my book.

2MuchMark 02-05-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19465491)

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Marcus Aurelius 02-05-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19466269)
That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Here's someone who "gets it".

Nice post.

Tjeezers 02-05-2013 03:55 PM

yeah you need traffic, cause your models do not work for a few bucks. You can start padding them a little in begin, but you need to get traffic at the same time, and lots of it. I understand people post what it is all about to have a cam site, I can say from own experience that online models, traffic and pushing in some sales yourself is practicly the best way to start.

I can for sure help you with some free traffic and a lot of other third party concepts can, perhaps you should work on this, make a network of concepts that surround your cam site. Anyway, good luck with it

adultmobile 02-05-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19466269)
That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

Then you have to buy the traffic :)

Axel_Crak 02-05-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiederman (Post 19464492)
you have ur own camplatform, why r u linking to exposedwebcams?
and you give a popunder to exposedwebcams

i guess u dont want the visitor to stay on your site?

NO !

Let him do some money at least while he tweak and optimize his site !

At least it will pay few bills, im pretty sure its temporary

:)

alias 02-05-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19465570)

Malware trolling?

lazycash 02-06-2013 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19466269)
That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Nice post and good advice. You definitely don't need six figures to launch a cam site. You just have to know what you're doing before you begin. The addition of models and traffic have to be perfectly timed to coincide or you end up throwing money down the drain.

sungat123 02-06-2013 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19465570)

there is nothing wrong with my site
it have ads of juicyads and crakrevenue
your scanner might wron

sungat123 02-06-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19465570)

from which site u scan it
i am sure this is screen shot

adultmobile 02-06-2013 09:59 AM

You may guess some cam sites talk each other, so getting direct info on invest and earnings, I either decide not to share this info, or I disclose it correctly.

Of course who sells cam software or traffic, will tell is easy to start a cam site, or will get no sales of the software and traffic, guys would give up and not try in first place. Plus who did not run a cam site and is just affiliate, may think he know it all, like who watches sport match in TV and think: would have managed better the team and won a league, who can tell?

Ok let it be true a smart guy with no money can start after 2010 and end up the next mfc or streamate: statistically, a few smart guys must exist from whole internet population, so please list here the cam sites launched in 2010, 2011 or 2012 which: 1) you know didn't invested much, and 2) are doing very well.
Main issue: how you know how much they invested first, and how much their profit now, as this is private information? And if someone tells you he spend $100k a month in advertising, how you know this is true anyway?

Those few new cam sites who talked with me (some discussed in GFY at times) said invested at least the 6 figures in launch, so are excluded - our sites to be excluded as well as I admit, I am unable to launch a cam site with less than 6 figures investment.

It is still possible there's a successful cam site today, who invested very little despite launched 2010 and later (launch before was easier), but either they told around a lie that they spent 6 figure, or they told no one they was cheap launch, but then how someone here in GFY would know it?

sungat123 02-06-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19467374)
You may guess some cam sites talk each other, so getting direct info on invest and earnings, I either decide not to share this info, or I disclose it correctly.

Of course who sells cam software or traffic, will tell is easy to start a cam site, or will get no sales of the software and traffic, guys would give up and not try in first place. Plus who did not run a cam site and is just affiliate, may think he know it all, like who watches sport match in TV and think: would have managed better the team and won a league, who can tell?

Ok let it be true a smart guy with no money can start after 2010 and end up the next mfc or streamate: statistically, a few smart guys must exist from whole internet population, so please list here the cam sites launched in 2010, 2011 or 2012 which: 1) you know didn't invested much, and 2) are doing very well.
Main issue: how you know how much they invested first, and how much their profit now, as this is private information? And if someone tells you he spend $100k a month in advertising, how you know this is true anyway?

Those few new cam sites who talked with me (some discussed in GFY at times) said invested at least the 6 figures in launch, so are excluded - our sites to be excluded as well as I admit, I am unable to launch a cam site with less than 6 figures investment.

It is still possible there's a successful cam site today, who invested very little despite launched 2010 and later (launch before was easier), but either they told around a lie that they spent 6 figure, or they told no one they was cheap launch, but then how someone here in GFY would know it?

i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

2013 02-06-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungat123 (Post 19467573)
i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

i would stop while ahead you have still not fixed anything

xNetworx 02-06-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungat123 (Post 19467573)
i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...1/confused.gif

sungat123 02-06-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013 (Post 19467576)
i would stop while ahead you have still not fixed anything

i was busy my self while uploading videos at other tube sites
i perfer slow and steady ..
i am not in hurry;

pimpmaster9000 02-06-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungat123 (Post 19467573)
i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

:Oh crap

nobody will take your site seriously with just 20 models...not the models, not the customers...

models come and go like you would not believe...this is a huge problem...here is my prediction for your project: day one= and 5 models will actually show up, im not being mean I am being realistic, net contrats are not worth shit, within one hour you will have 1 online probably splitcamming you in the background not giving a shit about the 2-3 customers per day that actually come in her room...when customers see only 5 girls they will run in seconds...day two=you wish you would have listened to everybody here who tried to stop you....

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...models are not savvy business oriented individuals they are, literally, lazy stupid unmotivated whores...all the clever ones are all on the big sites or have rich boyfriends...

not to mention your site looks like it will not convert at all because it looks horrid and has all the wrong banners advertising your biggest competition...

also ask yourself why would anybody with quality traffic even think of sending it your way? seriously? why would I bother being that I can sell my quality traffic to the giant cam sites that will pay every week/month and not fail after 2 days like you? it would be a waste of quality traffic...

you will make more money from the competitions banners than from your site, you would in fact be sending forum purchased traffic to MFC :1orglaugh thats just a silly thing to do...

Kovachi 02-06-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19467625)
:Oh crap

nobody will take your site seriously with just 20 models...not the models, not the customers...

models come and go like you would not believe...this is a huge problem...here is my prediction for your project: day one= and 5 models will actually show up, im not being mean I am being realistic, net contrats are not worth shit, within one hour you will have 1 online probably splitcamming you in the background not giving a shit about the 2-3 customers per day that actually come in her room...when customers see only 5 girls they will run in seconds...day two=you wish you would have listened to everybody here who tried to stop you....

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...models are not savvy business oriented individuals they are, literally, lazy stupid unmotivated whores...all the clever ones are all on the big sites or have rich boyfriends...

not to mention your site looks like it will not convert at all because it looks horrid and has all the wrong banners advertising your biggest competition...

also ask yourself why would anybody with quality traffic even think of sending it your way? seriously? why would I bother being that I can sell my quality traffic to the giant cam sites that will pay every week/month and not fail after 2 days like you? it would be a waste of quality traffic...

you will make more money from the competitions banners than from your site, you would in fact be sending forum purchased traffic to MFC :1orglaugh thats just a silly thing to do...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You just summed up sungat's shitty life.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

adultmobile 02-06-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19467625)
you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...

Yes, a cam site can not grow slowly from zero (what an urban legend is that?), it must start and keep populated (social = someone there), or it dies. The 6 figure investment from day 1, is to keep online just few models 24/7, they're 150-200 models in shifts, need a $100k/mo earning or models are gone in few days, customers too, and end of site. Only way is start giving models a pay per hour just to sit there and bonuses (in loss for site), and to buy advertising massively to real customer to pay models in place of the site - when it happens, if this keeps up, the site it survived and may be stable. Paying bonus to girl forever or they quit you is however wrong, this is a way to waste money forever, in fact bonuses are at site launch, then bonus or fixed pay must end, but girls to keep in site the same, due to real customers.
This also explains why the big porn sites or dvd producers send their cam traffic to third party cam sites, whitelabels, rather than setup an own cam site (and some who had setup, ended up closing and and switching to whitelabels).
About "I need traffic urgent", if you offer a program with revshare, do not wait for affiliates to send you traffic: the first you will get carders and all fraud guys, to make you chargebacks. I've spotted a Filipino affliate carder yesterday, and a spanish one returned today, 90% of new affiliate signups is a fraudster, its a daily boring job: if you're away a week without checking, you return and got a million dollar fraud sales to pay out, but if you not pay a model "as it is chargeback", your cam site is shitlisted in cam forums as non payer. Again the traffic must be purchased directly, even the biggest programs rely 20% on affiliates and 80% on prepay traffic deals, again needs simply money.


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