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Furious_Male 02-07-2013 10:07 PM

This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

DTK 02-08-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 19470163)
What in the good world of all hell could possibly put the vix over 20 anytime soon?

Sure- it was way up after the big retailers "failed at teh christmas"... but wow I would not run around with my hands in the air screaming just because some moron made a big (?relative to?) trade

There are a-lot of morons in the world and many many of them have A LOT of money

Like i said, the vix goes over 20 regularly. Try checking out a historical chart.

Frank21 02-08-2013 01:23 AM

Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

Dirty F 02-08-2013 01:33 AM

Richard, when exactly did you turn in to a conspiracy idiot?

Frank21 02-08-2013 01:37 AM

infowars has actualy an article about it.

Quote:

For some reason, corporate insiders have chosen this moment to unload huge amounts of stock. According to a CNN article, corporate insiders are now selling nine times more of their own shares than they are buying?

Corporate insiders have one word for investors: sell.

Insiders were nine times more likely to sell shares of their companies than buy new ones last week, according to the Vickers Weekly Insider report by Argus Research.

What makes this so alarming is that corporate insiders have been exceedingly good at ?timing the market? in recent years. The following comes from a recent CNBC article entitled ?Sucker Alert? Insider Selling Surges After Dow 14,000??

?In almost perfect coordination with an equity market that was rushing toward new all-time highs, insider sentiment has weakened sharply ? falling to its lowest level since late March 2012,? wrote David Coleman of the Vickers Weekly Insider report, one of the longest researchers of executive buying and selling on Wall Street. ?Insiders are waving the cautionary flag in an increasingly aggressive manner.?

There have been more than nine insider sales for every one buy over the past week among NYSE stocks, according to Vickers. The last time executives sold their company?s stock this aggressively was in early 2012, just before the S&P 500 went on to correct by 10 percent to its low for the year.

?Insiders know more than the vast majority of market participants,? said Enis Taner, global macro editor for RiskReversal.com. ?And they?re usually right over a long period of time.?
http://www.infowars.com/do-wall-stre...pen-very-soon/

Dirty F 02-08-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19469868)
what difference does that make

Jesus christ

Dirty F 02-08-2013 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19469927)
I think he is just trying to open the floor up for debate.
To explore the topics presented and go with it. Pick a side.

No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

Frank21 02-08-2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19470366)
No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who want don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

So enlighten us with your prediction or insight knowledge.
Let me gues the stock market will go up and up and up and will not go down a single point? Gold and silver will go down and the job market will skyrocket with no unemployed? And we will all live long happy after all ......


This is what the non-conspiracy professionals predict for the future and how "right" they have been in the past 10 years.

Quote:

The Congressional Budget Office has just released a report that contains their outlook for the next decade. The report is entitled ?The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2013 to 2023″, and if you want a good laugh you should read it.

Here are some of the things that the CBO believes will happen?

-The CBO believes that government revenues will more than double by 2023.

-The CBO believes that government revenue as a percentage of GDP will rise from 15.8 percent today to 19.1 percent in 2023.

-The CBO believes that the unemployment rate will continually fall over the next decade.

-The CBO believes that the federal budget deficit will fall to just 2.4% of GDP in fiscal year 2015.

-The CBO believes that the federal budget deficit will only be $430 billion in 2015.

-The CBO believes that we will not have a single recession over the next decade.

-The CBO believes that inflation will stay at about 2 percent for the next decade.

-The CBO believes that U.S. GDP will grow by a total of 67 percent by 2023.

Wow, all of that sounds great until you go back and take a look at how CBO projections have fared in the past.

In fact, Bruce Krasting has gone back and looked at the numbers from the Congressional Budget Office?s Budget and Economic Outlook 2003. I think that you will find the differences between the CBO projections and what really happened to be very humorous?

Estimated 10-year budget surplus = $5.6T.

Reality = $6.6T deficit. A 200+% miss.



Estimate for 2012 Debt Held by Public = $1.2T (5% of GDP).

Reality = Debt Held by Public = $11.6T. A 1000% miss.



Estimated fiscal 2012 GDP = $17.4T.

Reality = $15.8T. A $1.6T (10%) miss.

So should we trust what the CBO is telling us now?

scottybuzz 02-08-2013 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19469969)
I've taken you off ignore to see what you're on about only to find you're still not reading any of the threads I make correctly, you really should scroll up to the top of this one and look at what my exact words were. You make far too many assumptions, and I see you're making up all kinds of other BS about past predictions. I never said that Putin had to be assassinated by the end of 2012, that's you're spin. Anyone, you're obviously trolling, so back on ignore for you, I've wasted enough time already. :2 cents:

yes...
sure im on ignore...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i suppose another screenshot is coming to prove it again?

scottybuzz 02-08-2013 03:45 AM

wehateporn, again, as you know all about the world. do you have anymore intelligence about what specifically is going to happen?

you are still generalising?

Here, i can play this game too.

i believe in the next 2 years, there will be a terrorist attack

now i just need a team of richards to help support me

wehateporn 02-08-2013 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 19470214)
This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

Indeed, good point :thumbsup

wehateporn 02-08-2013 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 19470343)
Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

Interesting, I'll need to put get back to his show

wehateporn 02-08-2013 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19470366)
No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

How much do you get paid per post Dirty F? If it's more than 2 cents then GFY are getting ripped off :1orglaugh

Frank21 02-08-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19470444)
Interesting, I'll need to put get back to his show

its funny how people like DirtyF are telling us since 2009 that the recession is over and everything will be fine yet.

Dirty F 02-08-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 19470548)
its funny how people like DirtyF are telling us since 2009 that the recession is over and everything will be fine yet.

Wtf are you talking about you imbecile.

Time to put you on ignore. Together with the rest of your conspiracy buddies. Buh bye retard boy

Joshua G 02-08-2013 07:46 AM

love this thread. its exactly like the sports gambling boards. When the point spread moves hard, everyone starts guessing whether Billy Walters just put in a huge play. in the end, the position is irrelevant to what happens in the game.

similar thing here, because its impossible to know if a big position has inside knowledge. Theres lots of big dumb money out there & entire wall street banks got killed by their own speculations in 2008.

if insiders are really bailing in droves, that shouldnt be a big surprise because the name of the game is buy low, sell high, & the market is high right now. Profit taking here is sound MM.

with all the dark money out there, it could be anything from an oil embargo, congressional shenanigans, lex luthor planting a bomb in the san andreas...or just a hedge of a hedge.

congrats to the winners. :thumbsup

BlackCrayon 02-08-2013 07:55 AM

yeah..insiders. so much for keeping it inside. so now what happens is everyone else follows suit and what would of been nothing is now something. all created by fear and hype.

_Richard_ 02-08-2013 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19470354)
Richard, when exactly did you turn in to a conspiracy idiot?

probably should just go back to posting about food and kermit the frog

_Richard_ 02-08-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 19470343)
Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

apparently the 08 crisis was started by a lot of money disappearing somewhere in 'asia'.. might be an echo from that?

or more bad news lol

Dirty F 02-08-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19470732)
probably should just go back to posting about food and kermit the frog

Beats being a conspiracy looney.

_Richard_ 02-08-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19470823)
Beats being a conspiracy looney.

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2010/09...ud_chew320.gif

look! predinner!

ger yer ass.. to facebook..

wehateporn 02-08-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19470863)
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2010/09...ud_chew320.gif

look! predinner!

ger yer ass.. to facebook..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

scottybuzz 02-08-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19470619)
. all created by fear and hype.

your wrong,


it's truth and fact

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 02-10-2013 05:14 PM

Possibly...

China reports two human cases of bird flu

"CHINA has reported two human cases of bird flu in the southwestern city of Guiyang, with both patients in a critical condition.

A 21-year-old woman and 31-year-old man tested positive for the H5N1 bird flu virus on Sunday after developing symptoms on February 2 and February 3 respectively, the official Xinhua news agency said."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226575014594

livexxx 02-10-2013 05:28 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91906T20130210

thats on reuters too, so as its chinese new year, expect global issues in about 72hrs

wehateporn 02-10-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 19474185)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91906T20130210

thats on reuters too, so as its chinese new year, expect global issues in about 72hrs

Best time and place to release bird flu; during Chinese new year in China :2 cents:

livexxx 02-10-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19474196)
Best time and place to release bird flu; during Chinese new year in China :2 cents:

perfect aim

SilentKnight 02-10-2013 05:57 PM

Anonymous Hacks into Federal Reserve.

Hmm...was the insider trader linked with Anonymous? :anon

Tony Soundview 02-10-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 19470214)
This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

Furious, you are the smartest man in this thread. Definately hedging on a 200 million dollar + bet. Sounds like a hedge fund protecting themselves from a drop. I used to work for the MS fixed income desk, we had treasury trades that were unreal.

Tony Soundview 02-10-2013 09:27 PM

Also, its .75 cents per spread contract. Not $75 per contract. Contracts are sold in lots of 100. This trade is a bet for large positive movement or negative movement. The real question is what trade are they protecting.

wehateporn 03-14-2013 08:05 AM

Hopefully once these 60 days are up sales can resume to normal :2 cents:

wehateporn 03-18-2013 03:41 PM

Article was 6th Feb, the bet happened before that, so not long left till 60 days now :2 cents:

Young 03-18-2013 03:57 PM

11 million is chump change.

Want to know what I got?

I saw 4 turtles acting weird this morning. I bet something HUGE is going to happen within 6 years. Last time I saw turtles acting weird...BOOM...9/11.

slapass 03-18-2013 04:14 PM

You caught that it was an in the money put spread. He doesn't need a huge move. It could move one point and he could make money.

Edit: Fuck I didn't read their edit before I posted. Yep needs to move BIG.


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