You don't pay squat until you move in. Sounds like a scam right from the beginning.

The GFY lawyers are all over this one, i'm bowing out now...

Have her contact the police immediately and tell them she suspects she is a victim of fraud. If it's a scam she might have a better chance of getting her money back if done quickly. If it's not a scam (and it probably is because who spends money that quickly) then getting the police involved will push normal people to pay her back ASAP or set things right. If in the states unless you make sure to push the fraud angle the police probably won't want to get involved and they will call it a civil matter. So it's important to state from the start that she suspects fraud and a scam.

they dont owe his friend money at this point. thats the problem. this person told them a story, but its not owed if they dont move in. no money is owed amiright? money was paid, keys given, they said the mother didnt approve, contract written. but that doesnt mean they cant move in. thus no money is owed to any one.

no fraud was comitted at this point

You can not be that naive.

If it involves CL, cash/wire and some bullshit story, it's some scam 99% of the time... :2 cents:

let me guess... $1200 ($600 deposit+$600 first month ??) was a pretty good deal, a place like that usually rents for a bit more?

tell your friend to go to the apartment and call the cops and tell them issue, get legal advice and sue her.

whatever contract or lease that was signed to, will have to be broken in my opinion. i aint no lawyer. she needs to move in. not having a receipt for payment might be a problem. but dont let them get to the point where youd need to present that. thats why i say move in. or get fucked

What is the problem exactly? Just move in.

White trash Simon showing off his iq of 80 again.

Dunno what to tell you man. You seem pretty dense and very immature. Someone paid for something and either do to the misrepresentations of the seller or for what ever reason, did not get what he/she paid for. They are legally bound to fulfill their end of the agreement or return the money and even then, the person who offered to lease the place is liable for additional expenses incurred as a result of their either negligence or fraud.

Real estate law is also black and white. There is nothing to dispute or debate. Either the person had the right to lease it or didn't. If she didn't, then she is liable for the theft of the money. If she did, then she has no right to block the tenant from taking possession of the premises.

However, the fact that you would deduce that no one owes anyone anything suggests that you are borderline retarded. So yeah, don't call the cops. A bunch of degenerates on a porn forum will surely sort this out for you.

you seem to be the idiot. the OP said that the person who sold the apartment told them that her mother didnt approve of it. the renter has the keys in hand and can move in. nothing illegal even happened yet. retard

Yeah .... if she was given keys, then where's the problem ... just move in!!! :Oh crap

If it were me I would do as others here have suggested. I would move in. When and if they try to kick you out call the police and show them the contract. Not much the landlords can do but deal with you and now you can come up with some kind of an agreement to get your money back.

Nobody "sold" anything. It was rented. Now who's fucking retarded?

the one grasping for straws. assmuch

Call the Police, it sounds borderline " theft by false pretenses " most states
have laws for that type of thing.

THANK YOU!!

You guys have made this thread HILARIOUS to read!!

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You're a funny guy. What can I say, you've figured it all out. Your understanding of the law is perfect and in your world, people can go around accepting payments either under fraudulent pretenses (misrepresenting themselves as having the right to lease the premises), or by simply accepting payment for something and not delivering, later announcing the money has been spent. Either fraud was committed or they are illegally preventing the tenant from access to the property or both. Is that really too hard for you to understand, Einstein?

I feel like the whole world is getting dumber and its depressing the shit out of me.

So what happened?

I don't know... for the free money?

Anyone on CL that requires cash is a scam.

I'm sure the names used on the contract weren't real.

well she was moving in. its happening all over the country :helpme the best way to avoid this go into a trusted realtor remaxx, century 21 they may charge you a small fee but you will know the truth :2 cents:

What about the passport/ID?

Anyway this whole story sounds fishy... if something like this happens, why would you not call the police right away? Instead you come to GFY to ask for advice?

I have been a landlord forever and people always pay in cash. Not unusual at all. Yes, they pay before they move in. Not sure if this person has zero belongings but moving if you are a normal person is a big deal. I would not move into a situation that might result in me having to move again in a few months. Now I am assuming she has somewhere to stay at the moment. The threat of police is great or court action but calling and working this out is the best method before any of that. And obviously you are not waiting two weeks ot get your money back. That is their way of getting you to wait and wait and ... wait so they can get away with it.

she probably does have the right to lease it. shes just saying her mother doesnt approve as an excuse to hold the girls money and lead her on indefinitely. and once you agree and accept not to move in, thats on you. no one has done anything illegal

you fail at law. youre why people get scammed

Correct.:2 cents:

Police won't do shit, no proof this person said anything other than 'we have a lease'.

Now if you can show someone acted as an owner or an agent of the owner without authorization thats a different story.

She called and said "sorry, you can't move in" after finalizing a contract and being paid. She already admitted that she spent the money. She is not refunding the money. She says the tenant can't move in. It doesn't matter whether the tenant agrees or not to move in or with respect to the money that's now due/missing/stolen.

In a forum full of insanely dense people, you really are making the effort to stand out.

And what exactly do you think the police will do? If they even bother to contact the person you're complaining about, they will just tell the cops they never said any of that and you're just trying to get out of a lease you just signed, then what?

Thanks guys, friend called and said hey im moving in regardless this morning.. plus she said ill call the cops and they will help me move in..

girl got spooked, and returned the funds few hrs ago..

but then the apt is back online again... scammer

Yep, pretty much the way it should have worked.

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I agree. Call the fucking cops. Bitch stole that money.

The point is not "what will they do" - the point is to pressure them to give the money back or honor their agreement. You keep turning up the pressure until they cave and you make sure things are documented and the law is on your side as you turn the heat up.

we need to go out and have drinks....i love the way you think :winkwink:

my friend's son got scammed on CL for a room for rent. he paid his first and last and on move in day the chick said someone else took the room and she didn't have his money now....maybe in a couple weeks. that was in Sept. and he will never see a dime

Post the address up here. I wonder if someone is renting the apartment and trying to scam other renters.

I can't see an actual real landlord / property owner trying this shit.

Let me guess your friend is female and you are being a white in shining armor.

Are you even getting pussy from her? or did you allow your balls to curl up inside your brain and convince you that "she is in distress and needs help".

if you would have had any sort of game you would have offered your place to her. get her smashed and slapped her around with your wank a lil.

but hey you tried to save the day. here is a nice pat in the back while some other big dick player like myself gets some puss out of that.

see just like i said, tell them youre moving in. and she wins. attorney TheSquealer knows all :1orglaugh. everyone else is just an ass

*tap dances*

when people scam, they are using loopholes in the law. so theres no "just call the police". you do not create a common and successful scam when the simple answer is to call the police.

TheSquealer knows everything tho and hates stupidity

Actually, squealer was right, the person was obviously attempting to commit fraud and when their bluff was called they caved in. The fact that the unit is back up for lease right after the money was returned proves this is most likely a repeated fraudulent activity where the perpetrator is just hoping one person isn't aggressive at getting their money back.