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Meanwhile the next mass shooting is just around the corner, just wait and see.
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http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/TDM-02.html the truth of waco was covered up, the documentary sheds light on the facts. |
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As far as having a lot of cops around you, I live in LA, they just BBQ'd one in the woods |
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Semi-autos have been legal to possess since they were first invented. You're probably not bright enough to ask yourself the question of "why ban them now when gun violence is at an all time low?" |
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If you've ever listened to cops talk about "civilians" for any length of time you realize most are someone you put your trust in. |
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In most cases people want guns because they are fun. That part isn't always understood because we all like different things. Some people like to smack a little white ball around for hours trying to get it in a hole while others think it's stupid and a waste of time.
Do we need semi-automatic weapons? No more than we need a fire extinguisher. You don't really "need" it but you want it in case you need it. This country is in serious dept and if and when things go to shit, guns and bullets will quickly turn into a very important "need" to protect your other vital needs like food, water, medicine, shelter. |
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Not much of an issue for me. I rarely come into contact with cops. Common sense tells you no sudden movements. If you are in your car, keep your hands in sight at all times. Easy. I got pulled over when a model was driving once, and she did everything wrong - she didn't even shut off her car. Well, she did show off her cleavage (nothing to the cleavage you are used to Robbie) but it seems it was "just enough" and didn't get her a ticket. |
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When the ATF or FBI or any government agency shows up with a fucking warrant you don't fucking shoot and kill four officers. At that point the original warrant is pointless. You shoot and kill four people the cops are coming in NO MATTER WHAT. |
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it's too bad you choose to continue making up your own story of what happened there but i did expect that. even so, figured I'd give ya a chance to educate yourself on the actual event as you do like to claim you are knowledgeable about american history. |
Franck, why you so scared of armed Americans? Vast majority of people here will never get shot or robbed with a gun, what makes you so scared all the way in Weedsterdam?
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because handguns and rifles are NOT ENOUGH these days.
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I think it's a smart move on Obama's behalf. A president that is tanking the economy should make disarming citizens a priority.
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In short, ATF attempts to serve a warrant and four officers are shot dead. WTF planet do you live on where that is acceptable? If ten officers knock on my door and have a warrant for illegal firearms or a meth lab or whatever, I open up the door and let them in. You don't start shooting people dead... |
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but please stop comparing cars to guns.. (not you Far-L) guns are made specifically to cause hurt, cars are designed to make transport. yes you can open a beer with a gun, but you cant shot someone with a bottle opener (same idea) |
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you can either read 5 sentences about the details surrounding the event and think you know wtf you are talking about or you can watch a 2.5 hour documentary on the matter and learn something about what happened there. either way. couple facts about serving that warrant. it took 76 agents and 80 vehicles stetching 1 mile to serve that warrant. and that's after the sheriff had seized the firearms at the compound and deemed them all to be legal firearms and returning them. . |
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Don't know that it's been done but we should ban bottle openers just in case! :winkwink: |
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This correlation is so weak and it is not common sense. People die from guns, motorcycles, cars, booze, green onions (e-coli), cans of tomato soup (botulism), lightning etc etc etc. Guns are different because of one simple fact. The gun used in the CO theater shooting was used to spec. It was not designed for fun, it was designed to harm and kill people without the need to stop and reload period. It was used as that manufacturer intended to perfection. That makes it stand out. |
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is a joke. It should be an isle at Walmart, not a branch of Fed Gov.
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Hell, you can go to the gun range here in Vegas and shoot a real "machine gun" and people do that for FUN. I agree that some guns are better at shooting than others (more shots without reloading, etc.). But to say they aren't used for fun is just ignorant. Thousands of people at thousands of gun ranges are shooting them right now as I type this for FUN. That guy in Colorado is an aberration, not the "norm". By the way, I have never been to a gun range. It sounds kinda fun. But if I wanted to shoot my shotgun for the hell of it, I'm damn sure not gonna pay some gun range for the privilege. lol I'd just drive out in the desert and do it. Or, when I'm down in Fla. I'll just go out in my dad's pasture land and do it. I don't...because my idea of "fun" is drinking and whoring. :1orglaugh |
Face it; there is no reason that will satisfy the hippies.
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I lived in an apartment back then. We all had a big BBQ and cooked up what little meat we had. The next few days it was all canned goods. But no one walked around threatening people. I find it hard to believe it was any different in freaking Santa Cruz. |
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I like to shoot and talk about guns. It is a hobby. It is fun. On a lazy Sunday, what is more likely to hurt someone, me going to the gun range and shooting for a few hours, or me sitting at home and downing vodka shots for a few hours. People who want to ban guns simply want to impose their definition of "fun" on other people, no more, no less. They don't want to address harms that impact their fun, but they have no problem regulating what other people consider enjoyable. And btw, I'm a black, Obama voting Dem living in Seattle. Not exactly a tin foil hat wearing redneck living in West Virgina waiting for the feds to come get me. I can't let white rednecks have all the fun (and as said by others, I'm going to be prepared for the zombie invasion). |
Have you ever tried shooting three times at a duck with pump action? Sure it can be done. But semi-auto is so much easier.
Why do people think I don't need a semi-auto gun? Why do people want to take away my freedom of choice? Why do you think you can pay 1 cop to police 1,000 citizens and everything is going to be hunky dory? |
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The whole thing was a cluster fuck, there were all sorts of laws the ATF broke in order to murder all those kids |
The sound of a weapon discharging repetitive amounts of rounds in a matter of just a few seconds scares the popo out of anyone. It's also handy if you're a crappy shot, so if the first wont hit the target, maybe the other 14 will.
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a quote from one of the jurors from the jury trial that acquitted the branch davidians on the murder and conspiracy to murder charges: One juror stated to the San Antonio Express-News, "When we heard all that testimony, there was no way we could find them guilty of murder." He added that "We felt provocation was pretty evident. When the firestorm started, everybody was trying to cover their behinds...I thought two agents in plain clothes should have gone in there and knocked on the door (to issue warrants)". |
Why do you NEED to worry about other people and how they conduct their lives. Try worrying about yourself.
They are fun to shoot, so are fully automatics. If you aren't into it, GFY. Some people probably aren't into some of the shit you are either, but they aren't asking you WHY you need it. Cigarettes kill more people per year than firearms, why do we NEED cigarettes. |
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But this wasn't a house, it was a compound with nearly two hundred people in it - 172 to be exact. Clearly you don't search a compound that houses 170 people in it with four agents. The local sheriff seized the firearms? And deemed them all legal? That's great. Fucking awesome. The reality is, no matter what, the ATF showed up with a warrant, legally allowing them to search the entire property. It doesn't matter if the sheriff was there the day before, it doesn't matter if they had no illegal weapons, all that matters is that they had a warrant, they were denied access, and started a gun battle. A simple matter of a search warrant turned into murder. |
Ok, a good reason to own a semi-auto, other than the original founders words.
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The CMP was administered by the Army for years and years. It was later privatized but still exists. They emphasize youth training in weapons and their weapons of choice are the very popular M1 carbine and the M1 Garand. Both semi-autos with the M1 having a removable clip and there are 30 round clips available all over the place. If you are a member of a CMP sanctioned organization (gun club) then you have access to purchase military surplus M1s at a lower price than the normal private marketplace. So, if my government thinks it is a good idea for me to have a semi-automatic rifle and know how to use it, who am I to argue. just my :2 cents: . |
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Anyone reading this would think that the USA is full of gun ranges with people lined up around the block to get in. My county has a million people and 6 gun ranges. You are all out shooting for fun....
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