seriously, there's soo much more pleasure in placing your shot and watching em fall knowing you did that though.....

like I said from the start, it's hard to make an intelligent response defending the need for civilians to own any semi automatic weapons (including handguns) when you allow civilians pump, level and bolt action rifles and shotguns for sport and self defense and make tazers available with restrictions and training.

Make your mind already. You said earlier you are not James Bond and don't pretend to be, but now you say you are? Which is it?

Let me clue you in. You aren't James Bond. James Bond doesn't exist. You are Joe Blow who feels empowered by having a firearm. You wouldn't be able an assailant under normal conditions, not to mention being to engage a fight fight with an unknown amount of armed intruders in the dark with your family running around with their heads cut off like chickens.

The scenario I gave you is like Kobayashi Maru - It's a no win situation. You can't engage an unknown number of gunmen in the dark.... That's suicide. But you not you - Of course you can instantly tell friend or foe in the dark. I'm sorry, but you can't.

You aren't James Bond. You a fucking idiot. With a gun.

You moron I own several shotguns. If you're some hick shooting skeet out in a field with a $50 thrower you bought at Canadian Tire then maybe you only shoot one skeet at a time. If you've ever been to a proper gun club you'd know shooting multiple targets is standard, not showing off. You're clearly the one talking out of your ass.Just because you are too much of a wimp to fire multiple rounds in succession doesnt mean everyone else is too.

Maybe this tiny woman can teach you a few things, like what an over under is, and how to properly hold your gun so you can shoot multiple targets in a row like she does.While you're at it, why don't you browse some more sporting clays and skeet shooting videos and tell us how many people you find using pump shotguns.

I love that so many people are scared shitless of semi auto guns. You should be scared. When the shit flies off you will be out gunned. Government hates for the citizenry to be armed. Look how many cops it took to take down one guy in California. He ended up killing himself. Pretty soon we will be able to 3D print fully auto machine guns on demand. That will pretty much end this little debate. But until then you should move next door to a police station or hire someone not scared of guns to protect you.

I'm less scared of the firearms and more scared of who has them.

Let's start focusing on that instead of the type of weapons then. :thumbsup

In the U.S. Us all being the general public............. is the exact reason. In the US the general public is supposed to have the power to keep themselves free from oppression, rulers, etc....... Without guns (Semi auto full auto whatever) the general public is powerless. The U.S. is supposed to be about the masses controling their own country.
However stupid those masses may be.

For instance stupid fuckers like you who want to limit our freedom from tyranny by taking away our rights to firearm protection from a government gone out of control.

ASK YOURSELF THIS...... DO YOU TRUST THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT IN THE U.S?
DID YOU TRUST THE LAST ONE WITH BUSH AT THE HELM?
DO YOU TRUST THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION? (We don't even know who that may be)
Eventually there will be an administration that you don't trust. Look at governments throughout history and you will see only a few that have not gone bad and eventually they will go bad also.
Do you want to be powerless at this time. DO YOU TRUST PEOPLE THIS MUCH TO NEVER BE CORRUPTED?
I DO NOT!!!!!

Also, Even idiots have the right to defend themselves from harm. Police can't protect them, they won't even catch the asshole that kills you. (With a gun, knife or big ass rock)

2 fitty valid reasons:thumbsup

Yes.

Yes.

Every four years we hear the same shit - They are going to take away our guns and our rights. Blah blah blah blah. It gets old after you've seen seven or eight new presidents take over.

You are way more trusting than I am. Then again I see people for what they are. (Based upon what they have done in the recent, not so recent past and what they are doing all over the world right now) People in power = NOT TRUSTWORTHY.

If you trusted Bush's admin you have a screw loose. Those fucking fuckers fucked the fucking US of Fucking A over fucking big time. ( >;-)~ )

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PsuKiUMOwDI

Just because we have ipads and HDTV doesn't make us smarter about oppresive rulers than the guys that wrote the Constitution of the United States. They had hands on experience with being ruled by tyranical rulers.

I'll side with the Constitution every time.

In Canada you don't have the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution which says.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

I firmly stand behind the founders of the USA that they were aware of the need for firearms and weaponery to keep the people safe from government oppression.
As it was then so it is now.
Armed citizens = Governed
Unarmed Citizens = Ruled

WATCH
https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PsuKiUMOwDI

It ain't about duck hunting or even personal security it's about freedom from the government.

It's not on a whim that this is the Second Amendment. It's that important.

I believe they pretend to think the second amendment is for hunters. LOL I feel bad for them if they are really scared of semi autos. I feel bad for people that truly believe you can get rid of 200 million guns so they will feel safer. I wish they would understand that most men that own semi automatic weapons are the good guys. But fears are sometimes irrational. And I think the gun grabbers in government have a different agenda, and know confiscation will not solve the problem. But, you can't wake up someone that is just pretending to be asleep.

I do have faith in my government.

Bush passed the Patriot Act and it hasn't affected me at all.

Then they came for me................

READ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

So you think that the patriot act hasn't affected you?:error

It has affected us all, we just haven't fully felt it's affect on us yet.

Our founding fathers didn't have as much faith in men seeking power as you do, that's why the safeguards are in place. :helpme

People are mezmerized by gadgets and checking their email on ipads, talking on phones way more advanced than startrek ever thought of. Distracted from the reality of things.
They think that it could never happen to me.
Never happen in the US.
Never happen to such a progressive country and to such good people.
Never happen as it did in other very progressive countries in the 20th century because we are better than them smarter than they were. That was a long time ago and they were stupid people. But not us (U.S.) because we are to smart to advanced, we are the best and we trust our government completely.

I call BULLSHIT!!!

IF WE ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP THE FIREARMS THAT STAND BETWEEN FREEDOM AND OPPRESSION AND TO THAT END WE WILL DESERVE WHAT WE GET.

The chopping down of the framework that keeps us all free is going on right now under our very noses. If not we wouldn't even be talking about this.

Having a gun to protect you from the government seriously must be the most dumb and hilarious reason you nutters come up with.

You mean the nations founders are nutters? That's why they put it in the constitution. LOL. You thought it was for deer hunters. You guys always talk about how the government has high tech weapons that would quickly destroy anyone with small armaments. Lets use them against the Taliban in Afghanistan then. How many people did Dorner take out before he killed himself. No drones. No tanks. An armed population is a beautiful thing. Founders knew it. Scaredy cats hate it. Sorry bros. we will be keeping them.

If every man has a gun every man is a potential solder. Not one man with a gun against tyranny but all men with guns against it. 350 millions of men and women armed against it.

Give up your guns and give up your freedom.

yet your government already banned automatic weapons and all kinds of highly powerful weapons from citizens. so you're full of shit.

you can do everything the second amendment states with single shot, level, bolt and pump actions shotguns and rifles. you don't need semi auto to satisfy the second amendment.

no, it's worse than that, in this thread they're saying the gun must be SEMI AUTO to protect you from the government

cowards need semi auto. real men place their rounds and kill what they intend to kill

speaking of second amendment - anyone ever considered that the SA was a well regulated militia and at some point was considered by the Nazi party and their follwers as the ones to protect them against the german government back then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

i think there's a bit of a difference between rednecks wanting big guns and the paramilitary wing of the SS.


the Germans were way smarter....

Our military has fully automatic weapons. Tell them that. LOL. When did American men become such chicken shits? Cowards are afraid the big scary guns are gonna come get them. Men get their own guns, so they don't get punked by people that aren't so scared of owning them. Come on guys. Let's not let the bad guys out gun us. :thumbsup

Oops. Sorry. I thought SleazyDream was American. Canadians have a different viewpoint. I respect whatever you guys decide to do about guns in your country. You guys won't do the same for us?

The SA was never really a "militia". It was the "security force" of a political party - the Nazis - and when the Nazis came to power it became a paramilitary force.

I live in urban US. Ive actually lived in projects in my teens, and never had a gun pulled on me. I havent heard one complaint about extended mags until a senator got shot

no, i don't respect your viewpoint, esp when i've had an illegial gun pointed at me head before from your country. your stupid gun laws keep illegal guns pouring into our country

I've been shot at and had a gun pointed at my head.

once in the bush - guy didn';t know I was there and bullets wizzed by me really close. He was illegially hunting on my dad's land.

and once when I owned a nightclub - someone sneaked a gun in and pointed it at my head. when he moved a guard took it from him.

i've never had an issue with extended mags. my issue is with handguns and semi auto. i don't care if a bolt, lever, or pump action gun has 100 rounds or 5. it's about how fast you can pull the trigger and aim at your target or spray

Sorry someone pointed a gun at your head. I know that must have scared you and scarred you for life. It would me for sure. But are you saying you would have been less dead if it had not been a semi automatic weapon? We live in a dangerous world. It seems like both of these gun stories have the innocent guy unarmed and the criminal is the only one with a gun. That is exactly the situation we want to avoid here in the US. Most of us here like the good guys to have a sporting chance. Almost all of our guns are semi auto. We have 200 million guns. They are not going away so these little arguments are silly. Even if you try confiscation, my gun will have been stolen when you come for it and you won't find it if you look.

pulling a gun on a guy who has already pointed one at you is your best way to get killed fast.

I never said pull a gun on a guy who has a gun to your head. If you carry a gun, you do your best to be aware of threats before they happen. If someone sneaks up on you and puts a gun to your head, do what they ask and hope they don't kill you. It worked for Sleazydream.

revolvers aren't semi-auto, so americans owning revolvers is ok with canadian op!

If someone has a gun on me I would prefer a semi auto. They get jammed. Revolvers don't.

:2 cents:

You have to be a certain type of person to be a copper, and that loving confrontation is just one small part of it. Dunno how it goes over in the US, but you get stopped here and pretty much guaranteed the 1st question is "do you know why I stopped you?". That 'question' is designed to get you on the back foot straightaway, and shift the control to the old bill. They don't like the answer (especially when it's 'wait, don't tell me, let me just guess, I can get this if you give me enough time, or a clue - maybe two of them') and their 2nd question is "waht's with the bad attitude". Yeah, like I'm kicking my fucking heels with joy at being randomly stopped because some cunt is bored.

All old bill are control freak power tripping egotists with a superiority complex (yeah I know it's redundant). It's just the nature of what's required to be one. This is the ultimate test of whether a copper is a class A cunt:

woman speeding doing 100mph turns out to be the copper's mum. He:

a) nicks her anyway, and shows being a jobsworth is more important than ensuring his mum doesn't get a driving ban
b) lets it slide, and ignores any oath to uphold the law, deciding he/she is the one to decide who gets punished

^ = you can't be a copper without being a cunt. Fact!

Anyway, carry on...

A guy in a city not that far from me killed a girl with knife in front of a disco club. He said "She deserved it. I would gladly killed all those losers in the club if I had a gun". That's why we have strict gun control in most european countries.

Seems like everyone on GFY hates cops. I did too when I was 24. All they wanted to was harass me.

The other day I was driving down the street and I saw a cop and hit my brakes. And it hit me like a rock - there was no reason for this. I'm no longer 24, not speeding, and the cop isn't going to be harassing me. The truth is cops harass you for a reason - not because they are dicks, but because you a dick. I see it all the time on the freeway - I'm driving 70 to 75, I'm already speeding, but I'm being a "good boy" and staying in my lane, not tailgating, not passing on the left... And then I see some jackass in a hurry changing lanes four times in less than a mile, going faster than everyone else, passing on the left, not using his blinker, and then dive bombing for his exit. And then when he gets pulled over he wonders why the police are picking on him.

Someone else here mentioned a while back that they got arrested for smoking in a public park. They were breaking a local law - which was most likely set up because local residents were tiered of gangs of people smoking while they were jogging or playing with their kids or whatever - and when cops approached them instead of saying "sorry" and quickly putting out the smokes they were dicks, refusing to put it out, saying it was their park, they had rights, and then refusing to hand over ID. They hauled into jail for a few hours.

Cops just want to do their job and go home without shot.

Treat a cop like a dick, and you'll get the same back. Call him sir, put on your big boy pants, admit what you did, and take the punishment already.

i think this is the most compelling argument for owning a semi auto gun.
there was a story yesterday on NPR, it was related to a chinese immigrant who was at a pro gun rally. He was seriously affected by the tyranny by the police in china, the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 where friends of friends were killed by police.
He bailed and came to US, now a strong proponent of the right to own a gun.
The argument is that if a suppressor is coming to your home to harass you or worse, IF you have arms, and the suppressor knows you have arms, they will think twice about breaking down that door. Put yourself in the shoes of the soldier, going to someones home who you know is armed, yeah right a lot more balls required compared to going to someones house who has no guns... any suppressor will think twice about picking a fight against someone who fights back.

Your government isn't going to become a tyranny you freak! No soldiers are gonna come for you!
Fuck man, you nutters live in one fucked up fantasy world.
Seriously it's biggest fucking retarded argument i ever heard for owning guns in the US.
How do you people get so fucking weird??