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HushMoney 02-18-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel23 (Post 19487594)
He could not have possibly have got that many bullets off that accurately from the Texas Book Depository.

Expert marksman have tried and failed to replicate what he's alleged to have done.

See. Another false theory. Many have duplicated it using the same type of rifle.

ninavain 02-18-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19487560)
Nice post ninavain! :thumbsup

thanks...:thumbsup

rebel23 02-18-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19487692)
See. Another false theory. Many have duplicated it using the same type of rifle.

If that's true then what about the magic bullet? there's many things wrong with it.

TheFootMan5 02-18-2013 06:18 PM

Wasn't there already a confession that Harvey Oswald was part of a bigger conspiracy?

JFK 02-18-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 19487243)
Wait, so no more FUBAR Webmasters? No more quality pics from shows? Now we're stuck with Nalem photos? :winkwink:

I HAVE RISEN FROM THE DEAD :pimp

RyuLion 02-18-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19487222)
:321GFY it's the most informed you've been in the last 10 years.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

HushMoney 02-18-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel23 (Post 19487796)
If that's true then what about the magic bullet? there's many things wrong with it.

Actually, there isn't. If you watch some of these History Channel docu's, they do re-enactments using sharp shooters, human dummies with silicone, gel and real bone and they have reproduced the events a few times to the exact specifications. It's not magic, it's simply people passing down incorrect information based on nothing but "that's obviously impossible" when no one ever tried to prove or disprove any of it. Same as people claiming LHO could've never walked from his boarding house to the site of the J.D. Tippett shooting in the 15 minutes it would've taken him. They used someone the same height, age and weight and he did a brisk walk of the same path in just over 10 minutes. Watch the shows, you'll really be amazed at how easy they disprove the majority of the things you think you know.

kane 02-18-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19487484)
Bought all his albums back in the day - including Lee Harvey Oswald's Greatest Hit.

I liked him until he went mainstream :)

Phillipmcd1 02-18-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19487563)
Here's a man who knew exactly what happened in Dallas, RIP


Bill Cooper was a nut

baddog 02-18-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19487529)
. . . . but clearly JFK was shot from behind.

:1orglaugh

Simon 02-19-2013 07:02 AM

The Magic Loogie (Bullet), Reconstruction
 

wehateporn 02-19-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillipmcd1 (Post 19487903)
Bill Cooper was a nut

Yep, that's why they had to kill him right :1orglaugh

Phillipmcd1 02-19-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19488507)
Yep, that's why they had to kill him right

That's what usually happens when you shoot a cop in the head who's trying to arrest you for aggravated assault

wehateporn 02-19-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillipmcd1 (Post 19488564)
That's what usually happens when you shoot a cop in the head who's trying to arrest you for aggravated assault

Just another official story, he had predicted 9/11 in one of his videos, then 2 months after 9/11 they killed him :2 cents:

Phillipmcd1 02-19-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19488573)
Just another official story, he had predicted 9/11 in one of his videos, then 2 months after 9/11 they killed him :2 cents:

He also stated:

The JFK shooter was the limo driver

There are colonies and bases on Mars, since the 60's

Men can walk on the moon without a space suit

You can get Aids from casual contact

The UFO at the 1984 Olympic closing ceremony was a real UFO

The guy found a niche to make money. I don't blame him

Lykos 02-19-2013 08:17 AM

Ok sounds good.

CDSmith 02-19-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19487506)
There is no proof of that. But I know, if there's no proof, you'll think that's irrelevant.

Incorrect. Anyone actually watching the original footage of it happening, of the bullet impacts occuring,
can plainly see his head snap back and to the side, which is definitely not indicative of a shot coming
from the book depository (where Oswald was). Also, direct testimony from several witnesses who stated they
heard shots from directions other than where the lone gunman theorists would have you believe they came from.
Plus, several experienced marksmen have shot the same or similar gun that was found and have said and demonstrated many times
that the 3 shots needed, shot at a moving target from that distance on that day could not have been done by
one guy using that kind of rifle, period.

Lone gunman theorists are the ones ignoring much of the facts we do know. Why, I have no idea.

But you are correct in one thing, that being the lack of evidence. Not because it's not there, but because
the powers that be will simply not allow it to be made public now or for the forseeable future. The hard
proof of what really happened and who made it happen will likely never be revealed, at least not in my lifetime.

I have no doubt that any good forensics and ballistics team of today could process all the evidence down to the
DNA of the asshole or assholes who masterminded the event, much less who all did the shooting. But it's never
going to happen, at least not publicly.


This event took place 8 months after I was born, and I have been mildy fascinated with it for decades.

CDSmith 02-19-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HushMoney (Post 19487692)
See. Another false theory. Many have duplicated it using the same type of rifle.

NOt many at all. The real question is, could OSWALD have done it? Did he have the skill level needed to make those shots? According to those experts who know his life story fully the answer mostly is no.

And then there's the bullet tragectory analisys, a whole other conundrum for lone gunman theoriests, none who can conclusively explain the "magic bullet" to the exclusion of a 2nd or 3rd shooter.

Sorry, I have no doubt whatsoever that this was a coup, set up, ordered and excecuted by people who disagreed with JFK's policies at the time. Blaming it on one guy with some fabricated personal agenda is very convenient, but that's about all it is. Convenient.

RRACY 03-03-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19487563)
Here's a man who knew exactly what happened in Dallas, RIP


So, you're saying that some fat dead guy knew who shot Kennedy?:error

wehateporn 03-03-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RRACY (Post 19509738)
So, you're saying that some fat dead guy knew who shot Kennedy?:error

Oh wait, I didn't know he was fat...or dead, in which case you're right, he can't have known. :1orglaugh

Added you to my Bot List

RRACY 03-03-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19487529)
I still maintain it was the secret service.

Oswald took a shot, for his own reasons, but clearly JFK was shot from behind.

There was a cover up, but only to protect the Secret Service.

Think about it.

The government never tried to prove a negative. This is the very reason the films were kept from the public for more than a decade, because jfk was shot from the front. Note the clear smoke at the point of entrance. No expertise needed, just a real life idiot sniped out.

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slapass 03-03-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19488775)
Incorrect. Anyone actually watching the original footage of it happening, of the bullet impacts occuring,
can plainly see his head snap back and to the side, which is definitely not indicative of a shot coming
from the book depository (where Oswald was). Also, direct testimony from several witnesses who stated they
heard shots from directions other than where the lone gunman theorists would have you believe they came from.
Plus, several experienced marksmen have shot the same or similar gun that was found and have said and demonstrated many times
that the 3 shots needed, shot at a moving target from that distance on that day could not have been done by
one guy using that kind of rifle, period.

Lone gunman theorists are the ones ignoring much of the facts we do know. Why, I have no idea.

But you are correct in one thing, that being the lack of evidence. Not because it's not there, but because
the powers that be will simply not allow it to be made public now or for the forseeable future. The hard
proof of what really happened and who made it happen will likely never be revealed, at least not in my lifetime.

I have no doubt that any good forensics and ballistics team of today could process all the evidence down to the
DNA of the asshole or assholes who masterminded the event, much less who all did the shooting. But it's never
going to happen, at least not publicly.


This event took place 8 months after I was born, and I have been mildy fascinated with it for decades.

They have proved many times his head movements are consistent with the current theory.

DBS.US 03-03-2013 06:47 PM

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RRACY 03-04-2013 09:20 AM

These are people who were focused specifically on the where the wound was. Their findings are backed by Zapruder which places the hole on the right rear.

) KEMP CLARK, MD: Professor and Director of Neurological Surgery at Parkland, in an undated note apparently written contemporaneously at Parkland described the President's skull wound as, "...in the occipital region of the skull... Through the head wound, blood and brain were extruding... There was a large wound in the right occipitoparietal region, from which profuse bleeding was occurring... There was considerable loss of scalp and bone tissue. Both cerebral and cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound." (WC--CE#392)

In a hand written note dated 11-22-63, Dr. Clark wrote, "a large 3 x 3 cm remnant of cerebral tissue present....there was a smaller amount of cerebellar tissue present also....There was a large wound beginning in the right occiput extending into the parietal region....Much of the skull appeared gone at the brief examination...." (Exhibit #392: WC V17:9-10)

At a press conference 2&1/2 hours after the shooting Clark said, "The head wound could have been either the exit wound from the neck or it could have been a tangential wound, as it was simply a large, gaping loss of tissue." ("At the White House with Wayne Hawks" news conference, 11/22/63, 3:16 PM, CST, Dallas, Texas) This virtually contemporaneous description is not entirely unequivocal. However, if JFK's skull defect were not rearward, it is impossible to imagine Clark would have conjectured that the skull defect was the possible exit site of the neck wound, for Malcolm Perry, MD, who participated with him in the press conference, and had performed a tracheotomy on JFK, had just claimed three times the neck wound was a wound of entrance.

In a typed summary submitted to Rear Admiral Burkley on 11-23-63, Clark described the head wound as, "a large wound in the right occipito-parietal region... Both cerebral and cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound. (Warren Report, p.518, Warren Commission Exhibit #392, Lifton, D. Best Evidence, p. 322)

Under oath and to the Warren Commission's Arlen Specter, Clark described his findings upon arrival to the emergency room, "I then examined the wound in the back of the President's head. This was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed." (WC--V6:20) Specter, either inattentive to Dr. Clark's skull wound description or wishing to move the wound more anterior than the eyewitness, neurosurgery professor placed it, later asked Clark, "Now, you described the massive wound at the top of the of the President's head, with brain protruding..." (WC:6:25) Dr. Clark later located the skull wound to Mr. Specter again, "...in the right occipital region of the President's skull, from which considerable blood loss had occurred which stained the back of his head, neck and upper shoulders." (WC--V6:29)

In answer to a question from Specter about the survivability of Kennedy's head wounding, Clark said: "...the loss of cerebellar (sic) tissue wound probably have been of minimal consequence in the performance of his duties. The loss of the right occipital and probably part of the right parietal lobes wound have been of specific importance..." (WC6:26) That Clark, a neurosurgeon, specified that the occipital lobe of the brain was missing cannot suggest anything but a very posterior defect.

2) ROBERT McCLELLAND, MD: In testimony at Parkland taken before Arlen Specter on 3-21-64, McClelland described the head wound as, "...I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered...so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be fractured almost along its right posterior half, as well as some of the occipital bone being fractured in its lateral half, and this sprung open the bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could actually look down into the skull cavity itself and see that probably a third or so, at least, of the brain tissue, posterior cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out...." (WC--V6:33) Later he said, "...unfortunately the loss of blood and the loss of cerebral and cerebellar tissues were so great that the efforts (to save Kennedy's life) were of no avail." (Emphasis added throughout) (WC--V6:34) McClelland made clear that he thought the rear wound in the skull was an exit wound (WC-V6:35,37). McClelland ascribed the cause of death to, "...massive head injuries with loss of large amounts of cerebral and cerebellar tissues and massive blood loss." (WC--V6:34)

McClelland's unwillingness to change his recollection has recently attracted detractors in the aftermath of Charles Crenshaw's book, "Conspiracy of Silence". McClelland told Posner, "I saw a piece of cerebellum fall out on the stretcher." (Posner, G. "CC.", p. 311, paper). To dismiss McClelland, Posner quotes Malcolm Perry, "I am astonished that Bob (McClelland) would say that... It shows such poor judgment, and usually he has such good judgment." (Posner G. "Case Closed". p. 311, paperback edition.) Perry's own inconsistent and unreliable memory lessens the merit of his opinions of others, as we will see.

No credible evidence of a forward exit has ever surfaced. It is complete fiction.

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_Richard_ 03-04-2013 09:58 AM

not fubarwebmasters.. noooooooooooooooo

RRACY 03-05-2013 09:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8_hDakTz2I

The bullet struck the President's right forehead and exited the opposite side, right rear, the exact location that Kinney described so beautifully.

The first gif file shows his hair and skull extending way beyond the back of the head. The others provide the video evidence that had to be there unless the editors were able to wipe it clean from Zapruder. They weren't successful even remotely around the exact frames that needed the most editing. Kinney's perfect eyewitness account corroborates exactly what Zapruder has always shown, jfk's right rear skull was blown off, which means that hundreds of researchers either ignored these video facts or didn't look close enough. Emory Roberts was the SS agent in charge and rode in the follow-up car along with Kinney, Hill, and several others. He told the agents not to move after the first shots were fired, in other words, "stay still until the fatal shot is fired". The SS agents were the only guilty parties involved that day where conclusive evidence exists of their involvement.

http://www.causes.com/actions/167321...ut-in-the-back

SECRET SERVICE AGENT SAW JFK'S HEAD BLOWN OUT IN THE BACK

DON'T MISS THIS STARTLING INTERVIEW OF SECRET SERVICE AGENT SAMUEL A. KINNY, IN THE FOLLOW-UP CAR, WHO SAW JFK'S HEAD BLOWN OUT IN THE BACK.../5/94; 4/15/94 --THIS IS ONE OF VINCE PALAMARA'S EARLIEST AND BEST INTERVIEWS:

SAMUEL A. KINNEY was the driver of the follow-up car on 11/22/63.
Interviewed three times between 1992 and 1994, Kinney was a rich source
of information. In an exclusive interview conducted on 10/19/92, the
author learned the following new information from Kinney: the agent
admitted that "we (the Secret Service) didn't do our job
", adding that
he thinks about the assassination "every night" and has even "dreamed
about it." ...Sam said "e...no, no, no, he had nothing to do with that...(ordering agents off the rear of the limo)...No, never- ...President
Kennedy was one of the easiest presidents to ever protect; Harry S.
Truman was a jewel just like John F. Kennedy was...99% of the agents
would agree...(JFK) was one of the best presidents ever to control-he
trusted every one of us". In regard to the infamous quote from William
Manchester, whereupon Kennedy allegedly said "Keep those Ivy League
charlatans off the back of the car"[ "The Death of a President", p. 37
(1988 version)], Kinney said "That is false. I talked to William
Manchester; he called me on the book [sic]...for the record of history
that is false- Kennedy never ordered us to do anything. I am aware of
what is being said but that is false". .. Sam also told me that JFK had
nothing to do with the limiting of motorcycles during motorcades, and
that Ken O'Donnell did not interfere with the agents : "Nobody ordered
anyone around". ...

In regard to JFK's head wound, Kinney was explicit: "He
had no brain left- it was blown out...there was nothing left...it was)
the back of the head. I saw it (the shot) hit and I saw his hair come
out
...I had brain matter all over my windshield and left arm, that's how
close we were to it...it was the right rear part of his head...because
that's the part I saw blow out. I saw hair come out, the piece blow out
,
then the skin went back in- an explosion in and out
". Elaborating
further, Sam said, after telling him that that's where the Parkland
doctors saw the wound, "I would say that, too...it involved half his
head". Asked to explain the 1500 gram brain at the autopsy, Sam seemed
perplexed, saying that "there was brain matter all over the place".
...Amazingly, when I told Kinney that there was a book- "High Treason"-
that alleged that "[SS agent] Emory Roberts ordered the men not to move", Sam said, "Exactly right"! ... I also attempted to get Kinney to go on the record in
writing, but I was too late: his widow Hazel informed me that Sam passed
away 7/21/97
while they were travelling through Iowa [letter to author
dated 11/20/97].

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