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Kenny B! 02-20-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19491279)
Epassporte burnt a lot of people. Rumour is people died.

You, don't, want to do business with people who adapt from those past errors and mistakes?

I feel very comfortable with their verification process.

Word:thumbsup they are covering their ass and in turn covering ours. Any and all dealings I've had with Paxum have been positive.

RuthB 02-20-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 19491289)
A photo of you with your passport, dude are you serious? Thats comical, what next? A photo of you holding your drivers license while driving your car on the motorway? Now that you told me that I'm scared to change address, because only God knows what they'll ask from me!

No need to worry Black All Through.

You can add a new mailing address to your Paxum account at any time. To verify it to your account you will need to provide a proof of address (such as a utility bill/bank statement etc) for that address. That is all that we require. :thumbsup

Denny 02-20-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19491279)
Epassporte burnt a lot of people. Rumour is people died.

You, don't, want to do business with people who adapt from those past errors and mistakes?

I feel very comfortable with their verification process.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

halfpint 02-20-2013 02:05 PM

I do wonder who gets to see all of this personel info which is sent to them and whether it is destroyed once verifyed or kept on some data base which I do hope is secure There must be one hell of a lot of peoples info sitting around at paxum somewhere

Google Expert 02-20-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19491260)
the american colonies (now the USA) were once prison colonies too. look it up.. anyway fuck you, this country is richer than your shithole.

You're wrong.

But what else can one expect from a former prison colony populated mostly by the degenerate descendants of ass-shagging criminals...

Jaeger 02-20-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M.A+ (Post 19491342)
You're wrong.

But what else can one expect from a former prison colony populated mostly by the degenerate descendants of ass-shagging criminals...

ok then live in your disbelief, the only reason they sent convicts here is because you americans rebelled.

spiederman 02-20-2013 02:28 PM

i like trains

signupdamnit 02-20-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19491288)
And why would someone want to pay extra fees to get a wire or check using a middleman?
An affiliate company itself could do so without any extra hassle for a client. Just saying.

That is the situation for most U.S. affiliates anyway. Unless you can't get a bank account here for some reason there isn't much point in Paxum. The same for sponsors paying U.S. webmasters. Why not use ACH instead without a middle man?

Paxum might be tolerable if all I had to do was provide a driver's license and a social security or taxpayer ID and perhaps do phone and address verification where they mail something to me. But having to provide photos of myself, scan the front and back of my credit card, provide bank statements and utility bills, make sure it's in blue ink and all the edges are showing and it better be in high resolution, yadda yadda yadda and then pay $50 a year or whatever plus risk having your account frozen for 300 different things "as a safety precaution" or "as a requirement of our bank" it just makes no sense to me why I would do that. What's in it for me?

Markul 02-20-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19491313)
I do wonder who gets to see all of this personel info which is sent to them and whether it is destroyed once verifyed or kept on some data base which I do hope is secure There must be one hell of a lot of peoples info sitting around at paxum somewhere

This.... is it destroyed Paxum?

And what protection exactly do you offer with all the extra data you require?

signupdamnit 02-20-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19491381)
This.... is it destroyed Paxum?

And what protection exactly do you offer with all the extra data you require?

The last I checked they don't even declare on their website that any documents provided for verification will only be used for verification purposes. Which brings me to another thing which bugs me about them. They seem great at protecting themselves and covering all their bases no matter what the inconvenience to the customer but what about protecting us and our interests?

Google Expert 02-20-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19491397)
The last I checked they don't even declare on their website that any documents provided for verification will only be used for verification purposes. Which brings me to another thing which bugs me about them. They seem great at protecting themselves and covering all their bases no matter what the inconvenience to the customer but what about protecting us and our interests?

Imagine if all that info gets compromised. Your identity could be at serious risk.

brassmonkey 02-20-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19491288)
And why would someone want to pay extra fees to get a wire or check using a middleman?
An affiliate company itself could do so without any extra hassle for a client. Just saying.

http://oi47.tinypic.com/339ty7n.jpg

she is going to fall out sleep when she gets home :2 cents:

Far-L 02-20-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19491273)
do not tell me to grow up and do not presume to know whether i am professional or not. How about you fuck off and mind your own business.

I just made it my business because you are just one in a long line of people complaining about something that is not even a steep requirement in the first place. It isn't like they asked for 10 years of tax returns, detailed logs for your receipts, and a stool sample tagged by your Doctor or anything.

So what?

Your time is so precious that you can't take a picture holding your passport that would take less than five seconds? You can't understand why they would want that?

You can piss on your sister's cat and throw it at a school bus for all I care but the fact still remains that if you think coming to GFY to piss and moan about some fairly easy professional standards to meet (why? so you can kvetch with all the other unprofessional malcontents) then, yes, I think that makes you unprofessional. Look at how you titled the thread - that is just a low blow in light of saying they have great customer service... again, not too professional.

Having a problem with those requirements is like complaining that you have to take a driving test to get a driver's license.

fitzmulti 02-20-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19490841)

I never had to deal with this kind of crap with epassporte!

And when epassporte did NOT follow the appropriate banking rules...there went all of our fucking money, too!

webgurl 02-20-2013 05:25 PM

The annoying thing about Paxum is the process for adding credit cards in your account and its more of a nightmare to add another/additional cc under the same person's name or company. It's totally ridiculous :(

icymelon 02-20-2013 09:44 PM

5 days waiting is lame. but that hopefully is a sign that business is good. And they wont be following epass. Also the requirements will help limit fraud and again help prevent them from following epass so maybe it's not such a bad thing.

Jaeger 02-28-2013 01:56 AM

took them 2 and a half days to reject my application because i used 'black pen' instead of blue. Guess what i do not own a blue pen, only black pens. I had to go out and buy one. Ridiculous. I can live with the stupid stupid processes that paxum uses, in actual fact it would be far easier to open a normal bank account by the way, but what pisses me off is the fact that they take so long to actually review things to comply with their ridiculous rules.

If you are going to have stupid tight measures fine i guess, but at least fucking review shit within a reasonable time. how long does it take to look at 2 images and check it against data? lets be generous and say 5 minutes. but really more like 2 minutes. not long...

And by the way Ruth, thanks for the lack of email reply, i guess you only respond to shit when it is on GFY. Typical.

CurrentlySober 02-28-2013 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19491656)
It isn't like they asked for a stool sample tagged by your Doctor or anything.

If they did, I'd have been their first customer... :2 cents: :winkwink:

bl4h 02-28-2013 03:20 AM

why cant anyone do this whole payment thing correctly and without stealing your money. payoneer is pretty good

i dunno but after the experience with epassporte, anyone who makes it difficult to deal with your own money is a huge red flag

Jaeger 02-28-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 19504729)
why cant anyone do this whole payment thing correctly and without stealing your money. payoneer is pretty good

i dunno but after the experience with epassporte, anyone who makes it difficult to deal with your own money is a huge red flag

exactly. I mean shit all they are is a middleman you would assume that a company would rake it in as a middleman. Maybe I should try payoneer, what are people's experience with them? give it to us...?

Chris 02-28-2013 05:14 AM

Jaeger ,

At the bottom of the CC auth form where you signed we clearly state that it can not be black pen. I have highlighted it for you....


http://cl.ly/NEK7/Screen%20Shot%2020...10.28%20AM.jpg


Also I'll be checking today to see why it did take two and half days to review your document.

signupdamnit 02-28-2013 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 19492130)
5 days waiting is lame. but that hopefully is a sign that business is good. And they wont be following epass. Also the requirements will help limit fraud and again help prevent them from following epass so maybe it's not such a bad thing.

The thing is based on everything I heard epassporte didn't fail because they failed to screen their customers. It failed because the owner used the customer's money as a loan for his other ventures.

Sid70 02-28-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19504763)
exactly. I mean shit all they are is a middleman you would assume that a company would rake it in as a middleman. Maybe I should try payoneer, what are people's experience with them? give it to us...?

I rate it positively in terms of PayPal to Payoneer card transfers, loading card and generally corporate level of their operations. Support can be slow tho.

ajrocks 02-28-2013 08:46 AM

"I UNDERSTAND THE CARD IS OPTIONAL, I AM NOT A MORON,BUT WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?"

Are you sure about this statement?

RuthB 02-28-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19504680)
took them 2 and a half days to reject my application because i used 'black pen' instead of blue. Guess what i do not own a blue pen, only black pens. I had to go out and buy one. Ridiculous. I can live with the stupid stupid processes that paxum uses, in actual fact it would be far easier to open a normal bank account by the way, but what pisses me off is the fact that they take so long to actually review things to comply with their ridiculous rules.

If you are going to have stupid tight measures fine i guess, but at least fucking review shit within a reasonable time. how long does it take to look at 2 images and check it against data? lets be generous and say 5 minutes. but really more like 2 minutes. not long...

And by the way Ruth, thanks for the lack of email reply, i guess you only respond to shit when it is on GFY. Typical.

Hi there, I'm guessing you're the person who emailed me yesterday regarding your account and bank verification. I submitted a query to our verification department yesterday, and when I logged on this morning I replied to your email with the information. I also contacted our support department this morning to confirm the status of your application, and it seems that you submitted new documentation in the meantime, and that has been approved. Now you simply need to monitor your bank account for the pending transaction, in order to fully confirm your bank to your Paxum account for EFT/ACH.

brassmonkey 02-28-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19504800)
Jaeger ,

At the bottom of the CC auth form where you signed we clearly state that it can not be black pen. I have highlighted it for you....


http://cl.ly/NEK7/Screen%20Shot%2020...10.28%20AM.jpg


Also I'll be checking today to see why it did take two and half days to review your document.

why cant you just do a digital sig? why is your process more difficult than other places that are much larger? take a picture with your i.d. shit? scan both sides. two strands of ass hair(j/k)

BAKO 02-28-2013 02:10 PM

This long thread for $45 bucks and a picture ID lol

DWB 02-28-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 19504680)
took them 2 and a half days to reject my application because i used 'black pen' instead of blue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19504800)
Jaeger ,

At the bottom of the CC auth form where you signed we clearly state that it can not be black pen. I have highlighted it for you....


http://cl.ly/NEK7/Screen%20Shot%2020...10.28%20AM.jpg


Also I'll be checking today to see why it did take two and half days to review your document.

Blue Ink: Stopping criminals in their tracks since 1935

signupdamnit 02-28-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19505553)
This long thread for $45 bucks and a picture ID lol

Yeah but wait till you see how long the threads will be when someone like "the upload monkey" hacks the Paxum database and has access to everything. Not only the funds but all your personal IDs as well. :upsidedow

It can never happen, right? Right?

charlie g 02-28-2013 03:23 PM

I am still having problems with paxum and find the support not helpfull at all. I had one account that the id's had expired. I tried to reverify but each attempt was declined. I opened another account to try again. A customer a few months back sent funds to the wrong email and I am trying to get those funds in the right account or at least be able to use them.

See below.
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Ticket Id: #173554 | 2013-02-28 04:55:59
combine accounts
alana
I have an account "name" and I would like to combine this account with that other account. Is this possible because I do not want to jump through the verification process again:-)

Thanks,

Charles

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paxum21 Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 06:04:18
Dear Mr Charles,

We have noticed that you have opened 2 Personal Accounts. Please note that, due to our rules and regulations, a person is allowed to hold only one Personal Account. Therefore, we kindly ask you to close 1 of your accounts and after that continue the verification process if the account that remains open is the unverified one, since accounts can not be combined, nor the documents from an account can be transferred to another one.

Thank you for understanding.
Best Regards.

Please help us serve you better by taking a few moments to fill out the Customer Satisfaction Survey

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alana Re:Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 06:14:01
Since you do recognize that I have 2 personal accounts, could you please transfer the funds from this account to the other account and I will close this one. It literally took me months to get the other account verified.

Or, please use the document associated with the other account and what I am attaching to verify this account and I will close the other.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Charles





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Paxum26 Re:Re:Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 12:00:24
Dear Mr. Charles,

We cannot initiate transfers for our users.

If you wish to have the funds sent to your active Paxum Account, you will need to reverse the funds back to the sender and have him send the funds to the correct Paxum Account.

Please do not hesitate to contact us should you require additional information.
Best regards.

Please help us serve you better by taking a few moments to fill out the Customer Satisfaction Survey

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alana Re:Re:Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 12:07:44
So, can you verify this account then and I will close the other? I have sent document so many times for both of these accounts it is dizzying.

Please look at the documents I have submitted and let's verify this account. Please TRY to help me.

Thanks,



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Paxum26 Re:Re:Re:Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 12:39:19
Dear Mr. Charles,

You cannot have more than one active Paxum personal Account and in order to transfer the funds, you will need to reverse the funds back to the sender and have him send the funds again to the right Paxum Account.

Thank you for understanding.
Best regards.

Please help us serve you better by taking a few moments to fill out the Customer Satisfaction Survey

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alana Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:combine accounts 2013-02-28 17:12:46
Let us try this again. If I close the other account will you verify this account for me?

Sending the money back is not a very good option for me. The customer already has my merchandise.

You know it's me and I am verified on the other account and that is why you won't verify this account.

So please help me out. If I close the other account will you verify this account for me so I can access my funds?

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Sorry, for me this is disgusting customer service. The correct answer SHOULD BE: Hi, I will close your other account and verify this one. Or, please close the other account and I will verify this one. These answers are bullshit. Payoneer is much more customer friendly in my dealings with them. And if this doesnt get cleared up soon without me having to send 20 tickets or upload dozens of scanned documents I will not be accepting paxum....ever.

RuthB 02-28-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 19505659)
I am still having problems with paxum and find the support not helpfull at all. I had one account that the id's had expired. I tried to reverify but each attempt was declined. I opened another account to try again. A customer a few months back sent funds to the wrong email and I am trying to get those funds in the right account or at least be able to use them.

See below....................
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Ticket Id: #173554 | 2013-02-28 04:55:59
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Sorry, for me this is disgusting customer service. The correct answer SHOULD BE: Hi, I will close your other account and verify this one. Or, please close the other account and I will verify this one. These answers are bullshit. Payoneer is much more customer friendly in my dealings with them. And if this doesnt get cleared up soon without me having to send 20 tickets or upload dozens of scanned documents I will not be accepting paxum....ever.

Hey charlie,

This can be easily resolved. You will have just received another ticket reply from our support department with instructions. Please do what they suggest and then you can close your verified account. Once it's closed please upload your documents (the ones you used for your verified account) to your unverified account, and then your unverified account (with the funds on it) will be able to be verified.

This process should only take a few minutes for you to complete, and then our verification department will finalize things. Unfortunately, for security purposes we are not able to transfer documents from one account to another account.

Please feel free to hit me up directly if you require further assistance.
Best,
Ruth Blair :)
[email protected]

bl4h 02-28-2013 05:21 PM

the only solution seems to be to take your money out in cash immediately, and put it under the sofa cushions. I mean im not saying anything about paxum or anything. but its easy to find yourself unable to access your account. its actually less likely to get hacked and not get your money than it is to do it the legit way for "safety reasons"

signupdamnit 03-01-2013 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 19505811)
the only solution seems to be to take your money out in cash immediately, and put it under the sofa cushions. I mean im not saying anything about paxum or anything. but its easy to find yourself unable to access your account. its actually less likely to get hacked and not get your money than it is to do it the legit way for "safety reasons"

In the U.S. it's better just to use your bank. They are actually regulated and all the policies are spelled out in a member agreement. They can't just unilaterally decide they are going to hold your money indefinitely until you resubmit a photo ID and sign in blue ink because your license expired yesterday. There are certain procedures real banks must follow and usually there are certain timelines involved. If you have a dispute or believe they aren't following the law there is usually a government agency you can complain to. As I understand it minus the anti-money laundering agency FinTrac (which is looking for money laundering and terrorism, it has nothing to do with protecting YOU) and answering to their own bank in Belize (or wherever the hell it is now) Paxum can do whatever they want. If the owner decides "Hey I hate that fucking guy. I'm going to deny him access to his money as long as I can!" there is little you can do as I understand it besides try to bitch here and maybe sue them.

adult-help 03-01-2013 06:02 AM

you guys can hate paxum but I love it, I didnt have any problems so far.

Sid70 03-01-2013 06:09 AM

Thread saver in da house:

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...5621aff8/l.jpg

nikki99 03-01-2013 06:20 AM

Paxu is #1 :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 03-01-2013 06:27 AM

I <3 Paxum ...

Some Guy 03-01-2013 12:48 PM

Created my Paxum account two weeks ago and just received a payment for the first time today. Went to transfer the money to my bank account and, man, what a pain. A blue pen only? Are you kidding me? I turned my place upside down trying to find one. I don't see how a blue pen is going to thwart potential criminals. On top of this headache, now I have to take a picture of myself holding my ID even though I've already submitted my ID? Ugh.

I feel really uncomfortable having to submit so much personal information to a company I'm not overly familiar with. ID, copy of recent bill, pictures, yada, yada. I don't remember having to go through any of this with PayPal and they've been successful for how many years? I'm hoping this doesn't bite me in the ass.

faxxaff 03-01-2013 01:27 PM

I use Paxum to collect payments from sponsors and pay freelancers. So far I am OK-happy, but here is my little rant about Paxum. I am trying to be productive in my statement and don't mean to bash.

1) As an affiliate I see many sponsors pay me late as they grow. They tell me about limitations to fund their accounts by ACH as they want to avoid wire fees. They quote a daily limit of 1k$. Christ sake, raise that to 5k. What's the problem? ACH for higher amount is totally normal.

2) Freelancers suddenly ask me to not pay them by Paxum anymore. Why? Their paxum card expired. This happens often. Come on guys, send them a new card before the old expires as every bank does and deduct the cost later.

3) Waiting time. It takes 6 or 7 weeks to receive a card by mail This can easily be cut into 1 or 2 weeks worldwide. At least that is what can be expected for 50 bucks.

Enough said. Cheers.

PR_Glen 03-01-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19505568)
Yeah but wait till you see how long the threads will be when someone like "the upload monkey" hacks the Paxum database and has access to everything. Not only the funds but all your personal IDs as well. :upsidedow

It can never happen, right? Right?

can you open up a bank account without showing an id? No? thank you...


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