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L-Pink 03-22-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19541586)
L-Pink is one of the Self-Appointed Morals Police of GFY.*

:2 cents:

*Actually too frightened of his/her own shadow and generally repressed to try anything new.

:2 cents:

Still smarting for calling you out as a scamming, dishonest, lying, cheating, cross-dressing ass wipe, Marion?

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AdultPornMasta 03-22-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541378)
Pulling money out of banks and finding an alternative based on not paying taxes and hiding income are completely different things.

And just what is wrong with hiding income from a rogue government which levies punitive taxes to fight illegal and immoral wars?

:2 cents:

L-Pink 03-22-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19541588)
And just what is wrong with hiding income from a rogue government which levies punitive taxes to fight illegal and immoral wars?

:2 cents:

Go for it Mr. Capone.

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Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-22-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19541588)
And just what is wrong with hiding income from a rogue government which levies punitive taxes to fight illegal and immoral wars?

:2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541589)
Go for it Mr. Capone.

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Rand's right, the USA government was Usurped in 1913. Happy anniversary ?

Phoenix 03-22-2013 08:27 PM

i guess im going to have to go ahead and find out what a bitcoin is and how to make them :)

is it illegal to make them? i see a stigma around it already.

AdultPornMasta 03-22-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lyno (Post 19541236)
I wonder why there is so much hate towards Bitcoin. A religious thing?

Ignorant people afraid of change.

Change is inevitable.

Suffering through the change is optional.

Kind of like the loss of Windows 98.

When it died, to many it was like the End of The World As They Knew It.

Did not happen and those same people are cruising happily along on 7, Vista and 8, having forgotten all about their initial portestations and howlings.

Paper cash is dying.

Costs too much to handle and secure.

Physical checks are dead however some still cling to them but this will change when every business imposes a $10 processing fee for paper checks, which will come soon.

:2 cents:

AdultPornMasta 03-22-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541589)
Go for it Mr. Capone.

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I prefer "Jack Diamond", thank you.

:winkwink:

AdultPornMasta 03-22-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541585)
Yea that's me. The one law I don't break is tax fraud. Ever have a full on lifestyle tax audit?

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It is a game.

The IRS can only audit what it can find....................

Think about it.

:2 cents:

L-Pink 03-22-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19541596)

i see a stigma around it already.

The stigma is based on comments like this "And just what is wrong with hiding income from a rogue government which levies punitive taxes to fight illegal and immoral wars?"

The government will view bitcoins and their users as nothing but a way to have income and commerce while avoiding taxes. Do I care if anyone here uses them? Fuck no. Do I want to point out to some that they better have their paperwork correct in case of an audit? Yes.

But you Marion? If you died of ass cancer tomorrow I wouldn't give 2 shits.

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BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19541582)
Like cars, guns, iPhones, laptops, guns, pickup trucks...............

Yeah, don't want any of those things because they might get stolen.

Dingleberry.

:2 cents:

you must be very retarded. bitcoins being totally anonymous make them so much easier to steal than anything with a VIN or serial number.

so much easier than stealing credit cards and bank accounts online too, no way to track these things.

seeandsee 03-23-2013 06:44 AM

Show chart
Last price:$67.22000
High:$73.39000
Low:$52.34560 <------- trololololollllll

Gambling whit your real money on this shit, crazy!

dyna mo 03-23-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19541581)
I'm trying to think of a legitimate reason an honest Canadian citizen would be worried about having the Canadian authorities seizing his bank accounts ??? Sorry still can't come up with one.

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ok, got it, you've made up your mind about bitcoins and canadians. :)

i'm still observing both............

k0nr4d 03-23-2013 06:54 AM

It's hard enough to sell a house, let alone sell one for fucking bit coins...

woj 03-23-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 19541983)
Show chart
Last price:$67.22000
High:$73.39000
Low:$52.34560 <------- trololololollllll

Gambling whit your real money on this shit, crazy!

2x the volatility of penny stocks = twice as fun :1orglaugh :thumbsup

AdultPornMasta 03-23-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19542000)
2x the volatility of penny stocks = twice as fun :1orglaugh :thumbsup

And so much money to be made........................................

Look at Bitcons like this:

You get a domain for porn, you buy content, you build the website, you buy traffi; you spend $1500 or so, you run some SEO hoping to get around the Animal Updates from the Big G and then you wait.

What is the worst thing that could happen?

You get nothing.

What is the best thing that could happen?

You get a few signups, lots of chargebacks from sexually repressed masurbators and maybe a few bucks left over.

With bitcoins you spend $1500 or so on hardware, hook it up to a reasonably good computer, install the software, turn it on and let it mine away.

What is the worst that could happen?

Bitcoins crashes and becomes worth nothing.

Your mining operation goes to shit and you get little or nothing.

What is the best that could happen?

Your hardware mines 5-7 bitcoins a day, you monitor things from time to time to make sure everything is working as it should, you tell Google to go fuck itself, you convert them to cash and go to the beach foa a week and have a nice life.

I'd rather put the $1500 into a Bitcoin mining operation.

:2 cents:

L-Pink 03-23-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19542086)

Your hardware mines 5-7 bitcoins a day, you monitor things from time to time to make sure everything is working as it should, you tell Google to go fuck itself, you convert them to cash and go to the beach foa a week and have a nice life.

I'd rather put the $1500 into a Bitcoin mining operation.

:2 cents:

So everyone on the planet can make 5-7 bitcoins a day? Why not triple up and have everyone make 15-21 per day? Sounds more like a circle jerk to me. Imagine the value of the euro or dollar if everyone made 5-7 copies or more of a $100 dollar bill each day.

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mayabong 03-23-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19542092)
So everyone on the planet can make 5-7 bitcoins a day? Why not triple up and have everyone make 15-21 per day? Sounds more like a circle jerk to me. Imagine the value of the euro or dollar if everyone made 5-7 copies or more of a $100 dollar bill each day.

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It depends on how much computing power you have. There is a hard limit of 21 million bitcoins and it is set to inflate about about 25 bitcoins every 10 minutes. In four years it will be 12.5 every 10 minutes and so on. Eventually there will be no more.

L-Pink 03-23-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19542095)
It depends on how much computing power you have. There is a hard limit of 21 million bitcoins and it is set to inflate about about 25 bitcoins every 10 minutes. In four years it will be 12.5 every 10 minutes and so on. Eventually there will be no more.

But marion just said I can make $300-$500 every day at current value on a $1,500 investment. :1orglaugh



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mayabong 03-23-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19542099)
But marion just said I can make $300-$500 every day on a $1,500 investment. :1orglaugh

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Some people are making somewhere around that right now yes.

L-Pink 03-23-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19542102)
Some people are making somewhere around that right now yes.

Are you?

dyna mo 03-23-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19542086)
And so much money to be made........................................

Look at Bitcons like this:

You get a domain for porn, you buy content, you build the website, you buy traffi; you spend $1500 or so, you run some SEO hoping to get around the Animal Updates from the Big G and then you wait.

What is the worst thing that could happen?

You get nothing.

What is the best thing that could happen?

You get a few signups, lots of chargebacks from sexually repressed masurbators and maybe a few bucks left over.

With bitcoins you spend $1500 or so on hardware, hook it up to a reasonably good computer, install the software, turn it on and let it mine away.

What is the worst that could happen?

Bitcoins crashes and becomes worth nothing.

Your mining operation goes to shit and you get little or nothing.

What is the best that could happen?

Your hardware mines 5-7 bitcoins a day, you monitor things from time to time to make sure everything is working as it should, you tell Google to go fuck itself, you convert them to cash and go to the beach foa a week and have a nice life.

I'd rather put the $1500 into a Bitcoin mining operation.

:2 cents:

why do people talk out of their ass like this?

i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, just a tool, but even i can google something and get an idea before i post

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

AdultPornMasta 03-23-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19542092)
So everyone on the planet can make 5-7 bitcoins a day? Why not triple up and have everyone make 15-21 per day?.

Only the smart ones.

Why not triple up? The right computer and a decent internet connection could run multiple instances of the hardware.

:2 cents:

AdultPornMasta 03-23-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542105)
why do people talk out of their ass like this?

i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, just a tool, but even i can google something and get an idea before i post

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

Enter the current Bitcoin price into the calculator and hit "Calculate". Don't let your jaw hit the floor though.

:2 cents:

L-Pink 03-23-2013 09:34 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-23-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19542115)
Enter the current Bitcoin price into the calculator and hit "Calculate". Don't let your jaw hit the floor though.

:2 cents:

jesus fucking christ1 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


srsly?


wow.

aren't you the same as notinmybackyard dude? thought i saw that somewhere/

BlackCrayon 03-23-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542153)
jesus fucking christ1 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


srsly?


wow.

aren't you the same as notinmybackyard dude? thought i saw that somewhere/

no, its not the same person. this is that sallyrand weirdo.

and sally, if you really want to go balls to wall get botnet software and use all the unsecured computers out there to do the mining for you.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 10:04 AM

here's a nice graphic from someone who knows how to input data into a calculator

http://i.imgur.com/NfyJ0.png


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19542164)
no, its not the same person. this is that sallyrand weirdo.

and sally, if you really want to go balls to wall get botnet software and use all the unsecured computers out there to do the mining for you.

oh i thought that was the same dude.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 10:19 AM

ASIC rigs are about to dominate the bitcoin mining world.

An application-specific integrated circuit, or ASIC /ˈeɪsɪk/, is an integrated circuit (IC) customized for a particular use, rather than intended for general-purpose use.





Will these ASICs make me rich?

If you have done some calculations and have come up with numbers indicating you will be making over 9000% profit your first month, there's a good chance you may be missing something or don't understand how Bitcoins work. After reading this quick FAQ, you should do some more research on Bitcoins, how they started, how they are created and what ASIC's will mean for Bitcoin miners.

Bitcoins are "minted" at a predetermined rate which is roughly one block every 10 minutes. Just because you might now have a 4500MH/s Jalapeno does not mean you'll be making $1500+ per day/week/month. You may now be mining at 60GH/s or higher, but the network hashrate (the amount of mining across the entire Bitcoin network) may now be up in the hundreds of terahashes per second (until now, you've probably been mining in megahashes). In order to moderate the network hashrate to maintain the predetermined minting rate of one block every 10 minutes, there is a variable called difficulty. When the network hashrate goes up, the difficulty adjusts to keep the mining speed at that predetermined rate (similarly, if a whole lot of miners suddenly stopped mining resulting in the network hashrate dropping, the difficulty would drop accordingly). Difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks.

What does this mean for you?

Using current figures, a Single SC at the current network hashrate (20.192TH/s as at 13 Jan 13) with 25 Bitcoins (BTC) mined per block, you could expect approximately USD$3670/month. BUT ... the network hashrate will be much higher once ASICs hit the mining scene so taking that into consideration, we should factor in a jump of difficulty to cater for the increased hashrate of 1000% (10x) in the short term. Current price (MTGox) for BTC is USD$14.14 (rounded). So, using that information, and for estimation purposes a conservative flat rate of USD13 per BTC, a safe assumption to make when working out your mining returns is USD6 per month per GH/s (@ 13 Jan 13)

Maximum income per month for the BFL ASICs (using the above) with no overclocking and ZERO power costs in USD is would therefore be around the following:
Jalapeno - $27/mth
"Little" Single - $180/mth
Single - $360/mth
Minirig - $9000/mth

Bear in mind these are laboratory examples (i.e. in a perfect and controlled world) and your returns may not necessarily be this high. These values will definitely fluctuate daily as the market value of BTC fluctuates and hashrates/difficulty changes. If you want to run your own calculations check out many of the BTC calculators online ranging from simple to complex. Here's an example to start you off: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/

What if you got the difficulty wrong above?

It's true there's no real way to predict what difficulty will be a week, month or year after ASIC's hit the network. This table should therefore give you an indication of what you could possibly expect in a perfect world if you were mining at difficulty rates of current, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 & 40 times the current rate (3249550) per 24hr. You certainly shouldn't expect the current (x1) rates to be acheived unless you're lucky enough to get hold of your ASIC in first 24/48hrs of being available (so make the most of it if you do).

This table does not include power consumption or payback of any investment made to purchase your device(s).

http://oi48.tinypic.com/20k8xom.jpg

mayabong 03-23-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19542175)
ASIC rigs are about to dominate the bitcoin mining world.

An application-specific integrated circuit, or ASIC /ˈeɪsɪk/, is an integrated circuit (IC) customized for a particular use, rather than intended for general-purpose use.





Will these ASICs make me rich?

If you have done some calculations and have come up with numbers indicating you will be making over 9000% profit your first month, there's a good chance you may be missing something or don't understand how Bitcoins work. After reading this quick FAQ, you should do some more research on Bitcoins, how they started, how they are created and what ASIC's will mean for Bitcoin miners.

Bitcoins are "minted" at a predetermined rate which is roughly one block every 10 minutes. Just because you might now have a 4500MH/s Jalapeno does not mean you'll be making $1500+ per day/week/month. You may now be mining at 60GH/s or higher, but the network hashrate (the amount of mining across the entire Bitcoin network) may now be up in the hundreds of terahashes per second (until now, you've probably been mining in megahashes). In order to moderate the network hashrate to maintain the predetermined minting rate of one block every 10 minutes, there is a variable called difficulty. When the network hashrate goes up, the difficulty adjusts to keep the mining speed at that predetermined rate (similarly, if a whole lot of miners suddenly stopped mining resulting in the network hashrate dropping, the difficulty would drop accordingly). Difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks.

What does this mean for you?

Using current figures, a Single SC at the current network hashrate (20.192TH/s as at 13 Jan 13) with 25 Bitcoins (BTC) mined per block, you could expect approximately USD$3670/month. BUT ... the network hashrate will be much higher once ASICs hit the mining scene so taking that into consideration, we should factor in a jump of difficulty to cater for the increased hashrate of 1000% (10x) in the short term. Current price (MTGox) for BTC is USD$14.14 (rounded). So, using that information, and for estimation purposes a conservative flat rate of USD13 per BTC, a safe assumption to make when working out your mining returns is USD6 per month per GH/s (@ 13 Jan 13)

Maximum income per month for the BFL ASICs (using the above) with no overclocking and ZERO power costs in USD is would therefore be around the following:
Jalapeno - $27/mth
"Little" Single - $180/mth
Single - $360/mth
Minirig - $9000/mth

Bear in mind these are laboratory examples (i.e. in a perfect and controlled world) and your returns may not necessarily be this high. These values will definitely fluctuate daily as the market value of BTC fluctuates and hashrates/difficulty changes. If you want to run your own calculations check out many of the BTC calculators online ranging from simple to complex. Here's an example to start you off: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/

What if you got the difficulty wrong above?

It's true there's no real way to predict what difficulty will be a week, month or year after ASIC's hit the network. This table should therefore give you an indication of what you could possibly expect in a perfect world if you were mining at difficulty rates of current, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 & 40 times the current rate (3249550) per 24hr. You certainly shouldn't expect the current (x1) rates to be acheived unless you're lucky enough to get hold of your ASIC in first 24/48hrs of being available (so make the most of it if you do).

This table does not include power consumption or payback of any investment made to purchase your device(s).

http://oi48.tinypic.com/20k8xom.jpg

The Jalapeno makes about 20 bucks a day now with teh increased price I believe. The difficulty supposed to rise by 30% tomorrow so you will get 30% less coins.

dyna mo 03-23-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 19542181)
The Jalapeno makes about 20 bucks a day now with teh increased price I believe. The difficulty supposed to rise by 30% tomorrow so you will get 30% less coins.

i was just checking that out!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZI58HQ-C-...2013-02-03.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fkpyyP5nf6...2013-02-03.png


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