of course, but I assume that's a given. Well, on the other side I've seen some real mobile horror stories, so who knows

Does anyone want the dumb down version of any website?

Me too i never use them

I hate 99% of all mobile sites as well. I set my BB Z10 browser to desktop mode though, and problem solved.

you so are not alone i cant stand them so i chose not to use them lol

I know this doesn't solve the problem of responsive (or lack thereof) design but, I would recommend trying a bunch of different browsers - every single one u can get ur hands on!

I currently use an Android Gingerbread phone & have SIX browsers - & I switch back & forth between them depending on what I'm doing.

1) The standard Android browser I never use. It's fast but I can't stand the way it switches between windows, poor interface - & it eats ALOT of data if you're on a limited plan!

2) I got the Firefox browser because I loved it on my Mac, but still haven't warmed up to the Android version yet & hardly ever use it.

These last 4 are where I spend most of my time. They all have their own strengths & weaknesses:

3) Opera Mobile - speedy intuitive user interface, can set the user agent to DESKTOP & you'll NEVER see another mobile site again, BUT, it doesn't like flash. Use different browser or YouTube app to watch vids.

4) Dolphin HD - Good for everything. Set user agent to Desktop & 95% of the time u won't ever see a mobile site, plays ALL vids I've tried. Only downside is UI isn't as slick as the Opera.

5) Opera Mini - I use this one ALOT! This one is light, fast & has a feature that saves u data - Serious data. It shows u how much you're saving & I save easily 75% of what I would've been using.

6) Last but not least is Dolphin Mini - basically a smaller, lighter version of Dolphin HD. I usually only need to use this when I can't get a picture, page or vid to load with one of the other browsers, which is rare, but a life saver & enough for me to keep it around.

When I originally went searching for something past the stock Android browser I couldn't imagine how I was going to settle on just one - all with their own unique feel & feature sets. Then it dawned on me - Fuck It! I'll keep em all! They don't take up much room & they're all FREE! Some can even be moved to your SD card if your phone's space is tapped out.

My only word of caution would be to NOT update with every little version that comes out, because it's a bitch to go back unless you've saved it somewhere. Read the most RECENT reviews of the update to see if there's any bugs & how it's affecting users of your particular model of phone or tablet. I haven't updated any of mine in eons & they're purring like a well oiled machine.

Anyway, I hope this helped someone. Experiment. Have fun. And most of all STAY AWAY from those mobile sites!

PS - I think the version names of the Dolphins have changed but you'll find them!

There is absolutely no point in building Sites for Mobile, because ALL Smart Phones can navigate through any website, you don't need a special mobile version of the website. That's so 2005... Not anymore.

Any smart phone can navigate with no problems via a normal website, using the zoom in and zoom out, touchscreen.

Only if there is a mobile version to over ride the main version as every site you look a is actually the full site and not a mobile version.

Fity mobile haters :pimp

of course there's no reason:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions...11-520862.html

Anyone who can't take an 82% traffic loss is a wimp :thumbsup

8%. You would lose the 8% that use a non smart phone and that is 8% of mobile so less then half so less then 4% of your total and no fucking way for them to spend 40 minutes to sign up on a non smart phone anyways.

if thats the only reason why you think people create mobile sites than welll....ok :thumbsup

Are you insane? The very site you are posting on, GFY.com, is maddening to navigate with the full version on a mobile device. Who the hell wants to zoom in and out non-stop to read each thread on a text heavy forum. It's madness!

This is how Steve Jobs felt, and how he wanted to showcase the iphone's ability to give you an uncompromised web experience. It's why apple.com has no mobile version

I agree with OP

:2 cents::2 cents:

I think you're probably in the minority of people with that last statement. Zooming in and out all the time is a nightmare. I hate it with a passion. There's no way thats user friendly.

We're working on making our sites mobile friendly at the moment and it won't be long.

mobile ftw :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

badoink buys a lot of traffic fro mus but thats not the reason im pushing them.
i work only in mobile and optimising for a mobile device is super important from a money making point of view as ctrs on incorrect sized banners is a nightmare.
i hear the comments on the seeminly standard mobile designs and think they are already looking very tired.
from a tube pov and mobile i like the idea of tiles on the landing page which badoink do a few times on their tours and i suspect it works well.
a site that closed down last year called something like iphonepornblablahblah ran with a tile version and it was excellent.
my 5 cents worth!

Well said Roald, lol...that dude is too funny!

There are tons of good reason to create mobile optimized sites in terms of convenience simplicity and brand appeal. I also am not a big fan of a lot of the mobile sites out there, but they do serve an important purpose nonetheless. With the advent of responsive design and the evolution of mobile devices there will soon be more of a uniformity and streamlined user-experience. This may not mean that you will prefer to view mobile site over website, but it does mean that you will be much more accepting of it...and who knows, you may even like it.

I may have a slightly biased perspective on the value and needs for a mobile site because it's my business, but as someone who basically lives on my iPhone and iPad, I also understand the frustration of surfing many a shitty mobile site....so I do feel your pain.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is...JUST SUCK IT UP AND QUIT YOUR BITCHIN'!! :1orglaugh:winkwink::1orglaugh

I and many others as you can see in this TOPIC, HATE a lot mobile versions of websites. We want the Full site.

Go ahead and do it, you don't have a sense of what people want. Thus you will FAIL and lose all your surfers. You don't have timing nor sense of what people want.

People don't want what you want to offer. Open your eyes.

Same message goes for that guy with the 80's retro camera on his avatar. Quite funny.

I don't get the whole mobile porn thing myself.. when I'm ready to jerk off, I don't wanna be holding my cell phone looking at a tiny screen when I do it.

This is a fun thread :)

no, 82%.

they represent 92% of data traffic, which makes sense since they can afford more images and full size version, thus smartphones averaged for 342Mb a month against 6.8Mb from non smartphones.

So, what this stat means is that you're serving 92% of your bandwidth to 18% of total cell phone users.

Thank goodness you aren't the type of people we are targeting out in the world...or else guys like me would be totally out of business!
However, I totally agree...my business thrives on people who look at porn on their mobile devices and I don't understand it for the life of me :)

You're trolling, simple as that

I don't get clown or pee fetish either.. I guess there are some thing just better left misunderstood.