Originally Posted by Oren-Pcash (Post 19577497)

Hi all,

We at Pussycash have reviewed this case a few times during the last few days.
We are being accused for not paying, acting in a wrongful manner, and not approving a host fast for adendreams to send his users to our system and let him make money in a way he had structured. All this according to a plan he built, according to his description, and without previously coordinating this with us, which ended in a clear fraud patterns, raising every possible flag of fraud activities in our system.

We are not here to accuse adendreams that his activity is fraud and won't enter into these claims for now.

However, every webmaster is free to choose the systems he prefers to promote and Pussycash may decide to terminate an affiliate account in cases where we suspect his activity is fraudulent or has resulted in fraud patterns that violates our terms of use and/or policies.

adendreams,
let us remind you and all others that tens of thousands of hosts and affiliates are working with our systems and are dependent on them - the same way we are dependent on you. Our highest priority is to ensure the continuity and the integrity of our system - and that is for the benefit of all. For the last ten years we are doing this and paying good money and still do.

Your case is a clear fraudulent activity pattern case.
Out of 20 users who used their cc for the first time, we had to void and/or refund 14 and as a result, all of these guests transactions were cancelled/returned immediately. When such a thing happens, especially with a new affiliate, we suspend the account and this is what happened to you.
When the account is suspended we are freezing the payment for all other sign ups until we are sure they are not fraud. Once this period of time is over you will receive your payout for the valid sign ups you have referred, and even though you were suspended - you will receive it in the terms of the campaign that you were participating.

We appreciate your effort and hope that sometimes in the future we will do better business together.

Any other communication regarding this matter will be done via emails and we will not respond further to this matter on this Forum.

With respect,
Oren

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19578111)

Great thread for exposing these big companies offering these insane payouts, Trying to force all of the little guys out of business :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Oren-Pcash (Post 19577497)

Hi all,

We at Pussycash have reviewed this case a few times during the last few days.
We are being accused for not paying, acting in a wrongful manner, and not approving a host fast for adendreams to send his users to our system and let him make money in a way he had structured. All this according to a plan he built, according to his description, and without previously coordinating this with us, which ended in a clear fraud patterns, raising every possible flag of fraud activities in our system.

We are not here to accuse adendreams that his activity is fraud and won't enter into these claims for now.

However, every webmaster is free to choose the systems he prefers to promote and Pussycash may decide to terminate an affiliate account in cases where we suspect his activity is fraudulent or has resulted in fraud patterns that violates our terms of use and/or policies.

adendreams,
let us remind you and all others that tens of thousands of hosts and affiliates are working with our systems and are dependent on them - the same way we are dependent on you. Our highest priority is to ensure the continuity and the integrity of our system - and that is for the benefit of all. For the last ten years we are doing this and paying good money and still do.

Your case is a clear fraudulent activity pattern case.
Out of 20 users who used their cc for the first time, we had to void and/or refund 14 and as a result, all of these guests transactions were cancelled/returned immediately. When such a thing happens, especially with a new affiliate, we suspend the account and this is what happened to you.
When the account is suspended we are freezing the payment for all other sign ups until we are sure they are not fraud. Once this period of time is over you will receive your payout for the valid sign ups you have referred, and even though you were suspended - you will receive it in the terms of the campaign that you were participating.

We appreciate your effort and hope that sometimes in the future we will do better business together.

Any other communication regarding this matter will be done via emails and we will not respond further to this matter on this Forum.

With respect,
Oren

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19578274)

What was the specific reason you had to void the signups of the 14 members? Was it because as you said earlier in this thread, that they did not actively participate in the site initially and spend their $25 after their signup? Also, how does 6 signups equal $2400 in affiliate earnings?

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 19578490)

I'm pretty sure they voided the signups immediately as a precautionary mesure to avoid chargebacks.

Usually, card bangers will come in, send almost 1:1 traffic, deposit only the minimums to reach PPS and then take off - leaving the account idle.

A few weeks/months later when the real card owner see's the charges, he calls the bank to charge back. Anyone with a merchant ID will know that this is death for a business, so its better to just void and refund all suspicious charges as a safety precaution.

I'm not saying Aden card banged, it's just that according to the stories, this is what it would look like to someone working in the fraud dept who saw this activity without personally knowing Aden's promotional tactics and the reason why the member's were never active.

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19580144)

No payout for me.
I created a webcam review site, giving glorious reviews to every other camsite...all except imlive. I was contacted by a new rep asking if I would promote imlive.
"sure... give me the 2.4k you owe me and we can climb back into bed again".
I got my $2.4k... and the very next day i closed that review site.

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19580144)

Years ago I promoted imlive on a $100 PPS.
My methods where discussed at length with my rep, then my new rep...all they cared about was "send us sign ups".

I think in total i sent them 24 sign ups.
MY account was red flagged when 2 sign ups didnt spend their credits.


Result. No payout for me.

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19580144)

So i played a waiting game. I created a webcam review site, giving glorious reviews to every other camsite...all except imlive. It didnt take long for the bait to be swallowed.

I was contacted by a new rep asking if I would promote imlive.
"sure... give me the 2.4k you owe me and we can climb back into bed again".

I got my $2.4k... and the very next day i closed that review site.

IM still grinning to this day. :) :)

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20495351)

No surprises here