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wehateporn 04-17-2013 05:26 AM


rogueteens 04-17-2013 06:04 AM

There can be no conspiracy theory about the Marathon bombing because there is no official theory yet!

NewNick 04-17-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19581391)
i'll be honest, i am skeptical about afghanistan, they do have the lithium and some other mineable resources that add up.


however.



afghanistan has been bad news for countries for, what, 100 years now. the british fell into it for a decade, the russians, the us. that was all before anybody had the tech to find those precious resources. that was when it was just a shit hole, yet it sucked in major developed nations.

no, i *tend* to believe we went there to get obl and, just like the uk and the ussr, the us got sucked in.


Bad news for 300 years. :2 cents:

NewNick 04-17-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19581832)
"Terrorists" tend to be:
State backed
Corporate backed or State/Corporate backed
Religious Agenda backed.
Lone-wolf disgruntled citizens/small groups twisted by brain washing.

In the 80's the worlds biggest terrorists were the US/Corp. and Israel then maybe PLO. As the 80's wound down, corporations moved in to greater power positions. I the 90's more Arabs stepped up to the plate and began to plan for the future.


Just my :2 cents: I am expecting things to escalate.

That is a very limited view.

You have never heard of the IRA, or the INLA, or PANAM 103 (Libya) or the UDA/UFF ?.

What about the Central and South American death squads in Honduras, Chile, Brazil, El Salvador etc.

You seem to have a very narrow view of the world.

Dirty F 04-17-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19581378)
congrats, you are now a gfy conspiracist! :1orglaugh

He was one already for a long time. That's why i have the idiot on ignore.

PR_Glen 04-17-2013 06:59 AM

as johnny the kook illustrates perfectly in his posts here they will fabricate a whole magical land of evil beings that do nothing but think up evil plots to plan against the rest of us 'sheep'. The entertainment factor sky rockets when such a kook points these things out they actually believe they are elevated above everyone else when in actuality they are broke losers living in their mom's basement.

I enjoy observing them afar as one would observe birds in nature.. strange beings but may make a pleasant meal if needed...

BlackCrayon 04-17-2013 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19581672)
Exactly, and strangely enough people simply just ignore this. This is what is ADMITTED by the government...now imagine what they actually do that they never tell the public

And yet when you bring up the possibility that it COULD have been an FBI plot gone live, the propaganda kicks in in their head and they flip out. It's amazing to see. Yet in their personal lives if you have a person who lies to you over and over, then you never believe what they say after a few times. However, the government can lie, cheat, steal, kill, imprison and people still bow down to it and declare it as "good"...this is mind control

typically people like yourself don't say that it 'could' be a fbi plot, false flag or whatever, you come right out and say it like its fact about nearly every event that receives a lot of media attention. it doesn't seem to matter the nature of the event, just as long as the mainstream media covers it at length. last month people were saying a baby being shot was a false flag but i guess everyone has forgot about that one and moved on. fact is the people shouting false flag don't have a clue and just figure, if they call everything that, they will be right eventually. how many threads have been created just about the boston thing that have been shot down already making them look like idiots because they didn't do their research and instead just jumped right on it.

BlackCrayon 04-17-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19582199)
as johnny the kook illustrates perfectly in his posts here they will fabricate a whole magical land of evil beings that do nothing but think up evil plots to plan against the rest of us 'sheep'. The entertainment factor sky rockets when such a kook points these things out they actually believe they are elevated above everyone else when in actuality they are broke losers living in their mom's basement.

I enjoy observing them afar as one would observe birds in nature.. strange beings but may make a pleasant meal if needed...

no doubt. these same people probably blame their parents for their failures, so why not other authority figures? its not that i'm a loser, its that the global elite keeps us all down except those who have joined the illuminiati. why even try in life. i can feel important and special right here on the internet by 'discovering' secret world plots...oh but of course.

NewNick 04-17-2013 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19581672)
Exactly, and strangely enough people simply just ignore this. This is what is ADMITTED by the government...now imagine what they actually do that they never tell the public

And yet when you bring up the possibility that it COULD have been an FBI plot gone live, the propaganda kicks in in their head and they flip out. It's amazing to see. Yet in their personal lives if you have a person who lies to you over and over, then you never believe what they say after a few times. However, the government can lie, cheat, steal, kill, imprison and people still bow down to it and declare it as "good"...this is mind control

You really are insane Johnny.

Do you really think that government agencies sit around plotting heinous crimes in order to achieve goals that are actually easier to achieve by normal means ? Like evil witches around a cauldron.

"I know lets control the people and achieve our goal of worldwide domination by flying planes into buildings and then blame a load of cave dwelling Muslims".

"Or we could just control the people and dominate the world by the use of pseudo democracy, fiscal taxation, and superior military industrial resource."

Which one is a) easier and b) more likely to succeed.

I suppose it is a symptom of your condition that you de-humanize the people that you accuse. You don't see the people who work for govt agencies as just a group of people trying to do a difficult job and raise their families the same as the rest of us. You have to demonize them in order to make your madcap schemes look plausible.

THERE ARE NO LIZARD PEOPLE JOHNNY. IT IS A FANTASY.

BlackCrayon 04-17-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FLFHoles (Post 19581801)
I don't think everything is a conspiracy but to think our government does not bend the law or create situations for their own gain is just stupid.

Why would we declare Iraq had WMD when we knew they did not? To wage a war, the Bush war. Why does government wage wars even when it hurts the economy here at home? Because war is profitable. Maybe not profitable the way it was 50 years but it is profitable but only to a smaller segment (defense contractors, banks, etc..)

One only has to look back over the last 12 years to see the direction our country is going. Even after 9/11 and the PATRIOT Act, life in America wasn't that bad where liberties are concerned. Since Obama has taken office, the government now has the right to arrest anyone and detain you indefinitely without charge or trial and even kill you by calling you a terrorist.

Listen to the news from yesterday to today. The common thread among many outlets now is they are suspecting Boston was homegrown. Perhaps it is but anyone who trusts a damn word from the government doesn't study history.

Look at Aurora, Newtown, and Boston and every single event had a terror drill in the same proximity. In the case of Aurora and Newtown, multiple witnesses claimed to have seen multiple shooters but the government explains it away. Even 9/11 has military drills going on with planes crashing into buildings. Aurora had drills on movie theater shootings. I can buy circumstantial occurrence for one event but when it occurs for multiple events, it is easy to question every narrative that comes along from the mouth of the government.

Is this a plan of impending marital law? Who knows but look over history to find out how to do it. Hitler and others eased their people into tyranny by conditioning them. When you boil a frog slowly, they have no idea they are about to die. The same applies to tyranny. Americans have happily swallowed every shitty law that takes their liberties away while sticking their head in the sand denying it the entire way.

Were these events staged to get gun control and martial law? Maybe, maybe not. But with a severely devalued currency with little purchasing power, banning weapons that could attempt to match force of that found in military weapons, laws that allow the government and military to arrest and kill you based off suspicion and not factual evidence, large purchases of ammunition, armored vehicles being sent to local and state municipalities, etc... sure does not look good.

Do we really want to be the assholes in the future that look back and say all the signs were there but we did not want to believe it? Isn't that what we say after every happens and we discover the signs we missed leading up to it?

If you keep drawing the line and redrawing that line when the government calls your bluff and steps over it, at some point you will run out of room to draw a line and eventually you will have to make a stand.

Hitler convinced the Jews that every command and law was for the good of the country and for them. Even up to the point where the Jews were killed, they never rose up to say "Stop". Jews went along to get along hoping to be spared. How did that work out for them?

Are we headed down the same path? 20 years ago we could have said no. Now should the government actually have this plan, it is far easier to pull off now than it was even 12 years ago when the country was consumed with fear. But when 19 terrorists are able to defy the laws of Physics and accomplish something that 3,000 engineers and detonation experts claim is not possible, you have to question everything especially when our country has done false flags in the past.

Our government mourns the children of Sandy Hook and calls them victims but refers to innocent children killed in drone strikes as collateral damage. He decries an attack on the homeland but orders drone strikes in foreign lands that impact people who aren't terrorists and are only guilty because they live in the same area as the terrorists are hiding in.

The one area that the public should be able to count on to get the truth is the media but they don't even care to do their jobs right anymore. Dumbasses like Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer immediately jump the gun and say it had to be a Tea Party radical because it was Tax Day without ever considering if it could have been some radical from the left. They have a narrative they want to push regardless of the facts because most people remember the first person they heard that is deemed responsible.

When the NSA, CIA, IRS, DHS, TSA, etc... claim they can read emails, search you, suspend your Constitutional rights, etc... you better be afraid because if you ever get in their sights, you won't be able to overcome their defined narrative. DHS, military, and police are reporting they are training for civil unrest.

Let's not forget what is being debated in Congress right now either. CISPA and gun control. And with the narrative being shifted to Boston being homegrown and that directions to make the bomb are easily found on the internet, it's easy to see how that event could give the government the votes they lack to get the result they want. Either way, get ready for more cameras, TSA on the streets, and governmental control over the internet. All in the name of democracy that allows the majority to impose their will on the minority as they wipe their ass with the Republic.

while you may have the odd valid point it just sounds like propaganda from another angle.

BlackCrayon 04-17-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19582115)

yep...and family guy predicted the bombing...you feel for that just like those you call lemmings.

slapass 04-17-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19581292)
Here is the problem. When you have a government that has discussed creating false flag events in order to achieve their goal, or in the case of The Gulf Of Tonkin, or lies about WMD in Iraq to actually start a war, then you have to be skeptical about all events and not just believe what the mainstream corporate media tells you. That doesn't mean all events are false flags, but it does mean you should look at all the facts presented and try to make sense of it the best you can with ALL of the information available.

The corporate media has its own interest. It selectively tells the news they want us to know with the slant they want to put on it. Fair enough, so knowing this how can we base all events on what they say if we know they will lie to us or distort the truth sometimes?

Some conspiracy guys are bat shit crazy. No doubt. But it's healthy to question everything and not just drink the kool-aid because that is what the media and corporate shills in the government tell us to do. The media lies. Governments lie. People lie. Not always, but it does happen. This is what fuels conspiracy theorists. And sometimes those theories turn out to be true.

Just grabbing some older crazy shit off the top of my head, if you were told at the time any of these were happening you would have said the person is crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskege...lis_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethic...nited_Stat es
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statevi..._Malaria_Study
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...on_experiments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

All bat shit crazy. But it all happened. This is why people are conspiracy theorists. They are always looking for the truth, as history is full of governments who lie.

None of these comes close to what the nuts are claiming about 9/11 or.. or.. or..

_Richard_ 04-17-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19581401)
i like the way you put that. you said "not automatically believe everything they read on the internet/paper".

key word: everything.

i think when folks read as much as possible about an event that is clouded, they tend to be able to put the conspiracy theories into better perspective.

it seems to me that conspiracist don't read everything yet believe what they have read/watched on youtube.

moreover, as studies of truthers has shown, they tend to only read/watch more resources that support their view.

crowds of people generally have the stupidest talking the loudest

just.. like every group lol

alas

dyna mo 04-17-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19582172)
Bad news for 300 years. :2 cents:

wow, had no idea it's gone on for that long. crazy, it's a quagmire.

PR_Glen 04-17-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19582208)
no doubt. these same people probably blame their parents for their failures, so why not other authority figures? its not that i'm a loser, its that the global elite keeps us all down except those who have joined the illuminiati. why even try in life. i can feel important and special right here on the internet by 'discovering' secret world plots...oh but of course.

You've hit it on it exactly here... these are the same people who were blaming their parents for their failures, now they have just substituted parents for government. I wonder who they blame after that?

Rochard 04-17-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19582229)
None of these comes close to what the nuts are claiming about 9/11 or.. or.. or..

Your right. Most of these cases are very old, and even then you can't really say that it was "our goverment". I read about one of the cases last night, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, and it wasn't "our government" but instead a program started and run by three doctors. There is a staggering difference between three doctors and a government wide program.

The Tonkin Gulf incident also raises questions. No one has come forward saying "We are ordered to pretend we were under attack" and there is no proof that this happened. Seems to me it was the Navy firing on radar targets they couldn't see with their own eyes, and may or may not have existed. It's very common for soldiers, etc, to be firing at nothing out of fear.

I'm not saying our government can't do wrong - I'm pretty positive some of the stuff our government does in the name of "protecting us" would scare the piss out of us. But these items aren't any of them.

theking 04-17-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19582413)
Your right. Most of these cases are very old, and even then you can't really say that it was "our goverment". I read about one of the cases last night, the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, and it wasn't "our government" but instead a program started and run by three doctors. There is a staggering difference between three doctors and a government wide program.

The Tonkin Gulf incident also raises questions. No one has come forward saying "We are ordered to pretend we were under attack" and there is no proof that this happened. Seems to me it was the Navy firing on radar targets they couldn't see with their own eyes, and may or may not have existed. It's very common for soldiers, etc, to be firing at nothing out of fear.

I'm not saying our government can't do wrong - I'm pretty positive some of the stuff our government does in the name of "protecting us" would scare the piss out of us. But these items aren't any of them.

You definitely are correct about the Tonkin Gulf incident. On the 2nd there was a real attack so on the 4th...It was a nervous crew that was firing upon radar ghosts and also directing aircraft to radar ghosts. It was not a "false flag" operation.

EonBlue 04-17-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19582319)
You've hit it on it exactly here... these are the same people who were blaming their parents for their failures, now they have just substituted parents for government. I wonder who they blame after that?

Alien overlords.

scottybuzz 04-17-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19581386)
took a long time for me to get here

i suppose all one needs to do is not automatically believe everything they read on the internet/paper, and they're 'conspiracy nutter'

which, you know, is nuts.. but hey, i just work here

haha

stop trying to play it cool.

A while back you were sucking the cum out of wehatelifes dick with whatever he said.

you literally believed every one of his posts and loved him for it.

now you are trying to play it cool like you don't believe everything you read...

what a joke

TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 02:24 PM

People who think the government cant or wont do something like this when they've done things millions of times worse is beyond absurd. You are 100% propagandized

_Richard_ 04-17-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19583043)
haha

stop trying to play it cool.

A while back you were sucking the cum out of wehatelifes dick with whatever he said.

you literally believed every one of his posts and loved him for it.

now you are trying to play it cool like you don't believe everything you read...

what a joke

i literally believed every one of his posts and loved him for it?

please, tell me more about what your impressions of the internet are

while you're at it, please, have a seat, tell me about how it all makes you feel

i really care. i do.

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