you can't even remotely be serious.

I pretty much agree with him on that. Free speech is free speech. It is not just ok when we agree with the speaker.

I can't believe that anybody could be in this industry and not completely support free speech.

just my :2 cents:

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he didn't say free speech. it's a sweeping statement that if you don't accept someone's despicable behavior (freedom of expression) then you are wrong.

that's not free speech, and that's not the way it works..that's some philosopher's misinterpretation of reality.

reality is not black and white and freedom of expression is most certainly not black and white either.

God I love my home city and the people who live in it.

we don't have to agree with it and we can still tell them to shut the fuck up.

freedom of speech gives us freedom to tell them what we feel about the garbage they are spewing.

that's horrible. he sounds like he really gets off bullying a retard :2 cents:

Yea you guys love cowering in your homes under martial law and having troops come to your doors with guns drawn screaming at you forcing you out of your homes with your hands in the air like you're criminals or something... then cheer and celebrate it afterwards.

Not something to be proud of, but I wouldn't expect anything else from you.

I agree 100%. Someone else's freedom of speech does not force me to listen to it or agree with it or even to condone what they are saying in any way shape or form.

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Yea that should go without saying but I guess it needs to be explained to some of these people...

Fiddy Alex Jones lies and distortions.

Ok so we are threading needles here. Yes, sometimes what is labeled as freedom of expression goes beyond what most would tolerate as being freedom of speech.

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who's more dramatical?

That lady in the video is annoying as all hell. She totally ruins an otherwise hilarious confrontation.

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i agree, it is threading needles, to me, words in this case are important. that's where i was coming from. at the same time, i also have to disagree with some fancy philosopher telling me that if i don't accept everyone's behavior then i don't accept any behavior.

that really is not how the world works, right? you see what i am getting at? human nature is a bizarre mix, it doesn't happen in a vacuum i guess is what i figure. :)

I agree.

Mind you, I understand completely the anger the guy feels, but he's mishandling the situation. The moment you start throwing personal insults around your arguments lose credibility.

And yeah, freedom of speech means the paranoid-schizophrenic crowd has as much right to express their loony-tunes views as I have a right to pick them apart and ridicule them. Freedom of speech is not a pick-and-choose buffet. But keep it civil and polite and you'll have the high ground.

Then again, if my home-town was bombed and some assholes came to profiteer from it I'd like to think I'd handle it better but I, like that guy, are only human.

There's a difference between speech and behavior... the 1st Amendment is supposed to protect Americans' right to freedom of speech, maybe that's not how the "world" works, but that's how it works here...

We all have the right to say whatever the fuck we want (can't threaten to kill people etc) so just deal with it and quit arguing and whining about it... it's a good thing, you should be proud of your rights...

Ya because you would have protected your home from the troops right? Barricaded yourself in? Shot at them? Thrown a floppy disk at them? Or maybe some witty internet diss? You fucking tough guy, you.

And Boston != Watertown. You fucking clown.

i'm not sure what you are getting at here, could you rephrase? thx

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fuck, i was hoping you wouldn't find that 1!

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It was a trap, the guy didn't fall for it, well done to him :thumbsup

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I completely believe in freedom of speech. However, if you get on a live radio show listened by hundreds of thousand of people and say "Rochard planted a bomb that killed three people" that's slander. There are laws against this.

And this is what Alex Jones is doing - He's passing him off as a radio show personality and saying that the FBI planted bombs in Boston.

Well said.

The thing I don't understand is, why the potty mouth even bothers watching / listening to Alex Jones if it bothers him so much that it builds until he reacts like that. It is 100000x easier just to not listen to him at all.

I still think he was baiting him and wanting a confrontation of some kind.

Ever wonder why they have not sued him yet? He says stuff about them (all gov agencies) all the time. Crazy stuff.

Just throwing this out there, but could it be possible that he actually is right about a few things and they know that if it goes to court some of the things they have covered up in the past will be exposed? The last thing they need is to vindicate Alex Jones with confirmation and hard proof he was right about a few things. Think about it. He may not be right this time, but there is a reason they have not taken him to the woodshed yet.

alex jones' message is built on fear. fear of the worst kind, there are free speech laws against fear based statements.

The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.

On one hand you say "we can say whatever the fuck we want" but then you say "can't threaten to kill people". You seem to understand that there are limitations on what you can and cannot say. You cannot threaten people, you cannot yell fire in the movies, and you cannot falsely accuse people (or government agencies) of committing crimes.

If Alex Jones comes out and says "The FBI planted bombs in Boston that killed people" he can be charged with slander because he is making a false accusation.

the only reason this makes sense is because of how well-written it is. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

To be fair, almost all news networks are based on fear and nonsense these days. He is just a little over the top.

One cannot defame the U.S. government; as a matter of law, it simply isn't possible.

The government can't sue Jones, even if everything he has ever said about it is untrue.

As the court once wrote (in City of Chicago v. Tribune Co.): "no court of last resort in this country has ever held, or even suggested, that prosecutions for libel on government have any place in the American system of jurisprudence."

So.... no; it's not because anything Alex Jones has ever said is true. ;-)

I doubt that. Haven't various groups already sued the US government over 9/11?

I honestly believe our government lies to us on a regular basis - I do. And there is honest to god proof of this too - The secret bombing of Cambodia is classic example of this. You damn well know we were lied to about JFk if only because of the magic bullet. I don't think we were lied to about the Gulf Of Tonkin incident; I think the US Navy was told to put military pressure on Vietnam until they fired and then we fired back. For the love of god I have no idea what happened during the USS Liberty incident but you damn well know something was covered up.

Our government lies to us all the time.

But they didn't lie to us about 9/11 - I'm pretty confident Bush didn't WANT to invade Afghanistan - and if there was a conspiracy the US government would have figured it out and exposed it. I also don't believe the FBI bombed it's own citizens, or that the US government was involved in any way - for what reason would the FBI bomb it's own citizens?

Keep in mind that Alex Jones makes ALL of his money from peddling such nonsense.

We live in a crazy world, ya never know.

maybe that's why i thought there was some truth to your statement, a crazy world. i wonder if he's ever said anything re: the government that is actionable.

but obviously we can all sue the shit out of each other on a whim if we have the resources. and they've got resources!

I agree with the right to tell Mr. Asshat Pissflaps to go drink a dick and crawl up someones ass in Alabama.

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Learn something new every day. I didn't know that.

I don't think the FBI bombed Boston (though some of the story is sketchy), but what you said is exactly why these theories run wild. Because lies have been told, we never know what is the truth. You, me, and even Quentin (who just schooled my ass) only know what we are told through media outlets and public documents. We're all "out of the loop" and have no idea what really goes on, good or bad. I like to use the analogy of a cheating wife. Once you catch her cheating, every time she is an hour late, you're going to be convinced she is sucking a cock somewhere even if she's not.

No one wants to believe their government would do such things, but history is full of examples where governments did exactly that. Thus the conspiracy theorists rage on and it is easy for guys like Alex Jones to make a damn good living doing what he does.

I believe that's because what he's doing isn't considered news reporting but entertainment.

And because it's entertainment he can say whatever crazy shit-popsicle-eating lunatic scenario pops into that bell-fry head of his and his gang of retarded monkeys.

It's the same as if I got a radio show and started saying "THE DEATH STAR WAS AN INSIDE JOB. ALDERAAN WAS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION. THE FORCE IS A LIE PERPETUATED BY THE JEDI".

People choose to buy into my lunatic ravings well, it's on them.

And most importantly, people listen. And listeners means money, and baby it's all about them benjamins. Paranoia is a big business and business is GOOD.