As I've said before, there are crazy people and there are those who seek the truth (more info) and/or don't always buy into the "official" story. There is a huge difference between these two types of people.

Having said that, I really don't understand how people who sell porn for a living can demonize any of these people, crazy or not. Everyone is just trying to make a living even if you don't agree with them. Jones and Beck should not be able to influence politics any more than Jon Stewart can. The fact that they can at all really says something about the sad state of the USA.

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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Anyone who believes in God is a dumb ass. Anyone who works for a war mongering government is a dumb ass. Anyone who makes porn is a dumb ass. Anyone who is posting right now instead of spending time with their family is a dumb ass. Anyone who bothers to respond to theking is a dumb ass. And so on and so forth.

I'm being sarcastic of course (for some of those), but Jones has a money making machine and to do that you can't hire dumb asses. The kicker is, in society's eyes, even Jones and Beck are more respectable than most of the people in this business.

I concur...even though I sometimes wonder about what they really believe or don't believe.

people all over the world believe jones, it's not exclusively american so if it's a sad commentary on america for americans believing him, it's a sad commentary on the world as well.

but i don't think that explains it. one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the internet and the ease it spreads information, right and wrong. the world is a much smaller place now due to the internet, there's a lot of info to digest, people don't delve into every topic and sort it out.

not saying that's right or wrong, but there is some human nature happening here.

True. Most con men aren't dumb, in fact you have to be pretty slick to be able to troll at that high level.

This is why going apeshit on them is the wrong approach, because organizations like that are borderline cults, and nothing, NOTHING brings cult members together better than an outside force attacking them head-on. It's the tribal instinct kicking in.

Which is why politeness and specially humour work much better. When you laugh at someone's arguments, when it's obvious you're not taking them seriously and you make it clear that they're making you laugh, you take away their power.

Depressingly true :(


Sure there is. The human brain is a pattern-seeking machine. But just because you "see" a pattern does not mean it exists.

There has been psychological studies on conspiracy theories which boil down to this:
When things are really fucked up in your life, when you feel you have no control over events, your brain tries to give events meaning, context by making connections.

Thinking "the Jews/government did 9/11 - Boston bombings" gives that horrific event an "acceptable" explanation. "It was part of a plan by hidden forces, not a random event" and that's in a way reassuring because then you get a handle on what happened and can then "fight" these hidden forces thus regaining control.

It's the same way religion works. Good shit happens in your life? "God is so generous because I'm good". Bad shit happens in your life? "It's part of God's Plan to test me".

The dude who made this is a friend of mine! :1orglaugh

Truth be told I haven't really given much thought to the Boston Bomber or what proof the government has given us. I've seen the same pictures everyone else has seen, but outside of that I really don't have any proof outside of what the US government has told us.

I know that the US government lies to us, yet in this case I have no reason to doubt them. There are times when the government will lie to us (JFK, Cambodia) but in this case I don't see how the FBI could be involved. Or why.

For the most part I believe the press too. If any of the major news outlets thought there was any doubt to the story, they would start poking serious holes in it. And quickly too. It's like GFY here - You CANNOT lie here because you will be called out.

Agreed, and I would add Hannity and Limbaugh onto that list.

You just opened up a whole can of worms.

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Exactly right. Glenn Beck wanted to be Howard Stern. When that didn't work he tried something else. They don't really care. They're narcissists who want attention and to make tons of money. How doesn't really matter.

I was sold when he said "piss flaps" or something like that. The guy is witty for sure. He did get a tad redundant but still he tore that guy to shreds.
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So I am the only one who thinks he sounds like that guy from the BangBus?