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helterskelter808 05-22-2013 11:55 AM

This is weird.

These are the guys that did it, talking 'calmly' to someone in the street, even apologizing for doing it in front of women. While other people just wander around, while the armed killers are still there? Surreal.



Seems to me these guys are just random lunatics, Muslim or not, and killed the guy after seeing him. Ie, doesn't seem planned.

Scott McD 05-22-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19635849)
So nobody knows about the hordes of Muslamics... but you do, Scott?

Take a walk around many major cities in England today.

There's your answer...






I don't give a shit anyway. Blow up the whole fucking lot of the UK for all i care... It deserves it.


Moving on................

Jel 05-22-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19635849)
So nobody knows about the hordes of Muslamics... but you do, Scott?

Interesting.

Funny that the pothead is the one talking the most sense in this thread.

ok I'll bite, and I really don't mind any law-abiding, and contributing members of this country, as goes for the majority of people here - *but* when you live in it, and it's all around you, as Eddy said, it really is hard not to get angry at the minority (of immigrants).

What happens then is that more people find it hard to separate the minority of immigrants from the whole, and then things start drastically breaking down, and hatred/ill-feeling starts gathering momentum.

A Census that is 12 years out of date, and even then only factors in those who bothered to complete it, which let's get real, is gonna be a TINY percentage of immigrants here to milk the system, more likely none of them, is no indication at all of what it's like in a lot of England atm here and now in 2013.

The fact is, we are full, have no money (according to the gov't, so interpret that as 'no money for abc, but plenty for xyz', as per all govt's), and more and more people are at 'breaking point' when it comes to tolerating, and paying for, fanatics to be here marching against the very ideals that allow them to be here marching against them in the first place. That spills over into tarring everyone with the same brush, and voila, civil unrest and some fresh riots are the order of the day.

EddyTheDog 05-22-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19635899)
This is weird.

These are the guys that did it, talking 'calmly' to someone in the street, even apologizing for doing it in front of women. While other people just wander around, while the armed killers are still there? Surreal.



Seems to me these guys are just random lunatics, Muslim or not, and killed the guy after seeing him. Ie, doesn't seem planned.

For once I am lost for words...

dyna mo 05-22-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19635903)
Blow up the whole fucking lot of the UK for all i care... It deserves it.


Moving on................

please wait on this until after the 30th, i have family visiting over there right now.

dyna mo 05-22-2013 12:07 PM

seems odd the police swept in and just shot em down. did they try to arrest them or is that not protocol?

Badmaash 05-22-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635855)
Have a look at the stats for London in 2013...

Its hard not to get angry, but the vast majority of us live peaceful lives and enjoy living in a cosmopolitan city - London would be boring if it was anything else.....

I will say it again though - Its hard not to get angry...

Why do you keep on talking about London?

If you go to say NY, I am sure you will see peeps of many diff. backgrounds there too??

Anyway, on the whole the UK is white British, if the stats changed to 40% white british and 60% other then I would understand why people might get pissed

However on the whole the UK is not being invaded but yes, some areas do have large amounts of multiculturalism but that is normal...........

Its like me living in one area and then just this area gets a huge influx of Somalians then I start crying that the whole of the UK has been invaded let kill 'em etc etc

If peeps are affected by immigration in one area they are free to move to other areas of the UK just as non-white British are allowed to live where they want.

Manfap 05-22-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19635921)
seems odd the police swept in and just shot em down. did they try to arrest them or is that not protocol?

If they are armed and wont put it down.. they get shot.

Badmaash 05-22-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19635921)
seems odd the police swept in and just shot em down. did they try to arrest them or is that not protocol?

In the UK criminals first get enticed with biscuits and if that does not work then they get shot

EddyTheDog 05-22-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19635921)
seems odd the police swept in and just shot em down. did they try to arrest them or is that not protocol?

I am just hearing about that now - They shot to injure when the guys ran to them with weapons...

The thing that gets me about the video is that the guy is obviously at least second generation British - A strong London accent - Not some Muslim off the boat...

Badmaash 05-22-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635933)
I am just hearing about that now - They shot to injure when the guys ran to them with weapons...

The thing that gets me about the video is that the guy is obviously at least second generation British - A strong London accent - Not some Muslim off the boat...

Must have got hold of a propaganda video and become radicalised

baddog 05-22-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19635921)
seems odd the police swept in and just shot em down. did they try to arrest them or is that not protocol?

It's about the paperwork.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635933)
The thing that gets me about the video is that the guy is obviously at least second generation British - A strong London accent - Not some Muslim off the boat...

I laughed when he spoke of what women in his land have to see. It is pretty obvious his land is London.

Manfap 05-22-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635933)
I am just hearing about that now - They shot to injure when the guys ran to them with weapons...

The thing that gets me about the video is that the guy is obviously at least second generation British - A strong London accent - Not some Muslim off the boat...

The tube bombings were 2nd generation. A lot of 2nd gen immigrants in prison aswell.
identity crisis, they´re not from 'insert country here' and they dont feel british.. although who does? The Welsh are Welsh, Scottish are Scottish and the English are thought of as racist if they show any regional pride at all. (St George and all that).

Im Italian, Jewish, Welsh and English in pretty equal parts, so fuck knows what I am.

EddyTheDog 05-22-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19635949)
The tube bombings were 2nd generation. A lot of 2nd gen immigrants in prison aswell.
identity crisis, they´re not from 'insert country here' and they dont feel british.. although who does? The Welsh are Welsh, Scottish are Scottish and the English are thought of as racist if they show any regional pride at all. (St George and all that).

Im Italian, Jewish, Welsh and English in pretty equal parts, so fuck knows what I am.

That's what scares me most - These people went school here, learnt good and bad here - Osama must be laughing...

_Richard_ 05-22-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635959)
That's what scares me most - These people went school here, learnt good and bad here - Osama but be laughing...

divide and conquer is an idea older than the wheel..

Sarah_Jayne 05-22-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19635899)
This is weird.

These are the guys that did it, talking 'calmly' to someone in the street, even apologizing for doing it in front of women. While other people just wander around, while the armed killers are still there? Surreal.



Seems to me these guys are just random lunatics, Muslim or not, and killed the guy after seeing him. Ie, doesn't seem planned.

I just saw that. It feels so odd and a bit care in the community-ish.

Manfap 05-22-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19635959)
That's what scares me most - These people went school here, learnt good and bad here - Osama must be laughing...

90% of the time it´s
- broken family
- little schooling
- petty crime
- prison
- saved by a beardy guy who slowy brainwashes you.

PornoMonster 05-22-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19635774)
I don't see this as being a terrorist attack. This was a murder. A terrorist attack is when someone kills multiple people "for their cause".

Europe is going to have some problems with this. Islam is becoming bigger and bigger, and they aren't like Muslims in the US that just want to go about their business. Might get interesting.

Logical -- needs explained to the police and judges.

Seems like if you sneeze wrong, they call it terrorist threats or something with terror in the name...

PornoMonster 05-22-2013 12:51 PM

I was just thinking that the police should walk up, put a gun to this dudes head and kill him. Then I seen the last part of the video, they did shoot him. (he attacked the police they say) HA

slapass 05-22-2013 01:05 PM

How can it not be politically motivated? The guy could have killed a dozen people if he and tried but he wanted the story out.

femdomdestiny 05-22-2013 01:11 PM

According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

Spunky 05-22-2013 01:13 PM

Fucking animals

helterskelter808 05-22-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19635908)
ok I'll bite, and I really don't mind any law-abiding, and contributing members of this country, as goes for the majority of people here - *but* when you live in it, and it's all around you, as Eddy said, it really is hard not to get angry at the minority (of immigrants).

What happens then is that more people find it hard to separate the minority of immigrants from the whole, and then things start drastically breaking down, and hatred/ill-feeling starts gathering momentum.

Happens everywhere. Happens here, happens in Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's take how angry and vengeful people get at this, or at Boston or 9/11, and try to imagine what someone might feel when an American or British bomb has wiped out their entire family. Which we have done to thousands of people.

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A Census that is 12 years out of date, and even then only factors in those who bothered to complete it, which let's get real, is gonna be a TINY percentage of immigrants here to milk the system, more likely none of them, is no indication at all of what it's like in a lot of England atm here and now in 2013.
So you completely write off hard facts in favor of your imagination, based on thin air. Here's the data from your 2011 Census:
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Christianity remained the largest group; 59% (33.2 million) [...] The second largest response category in 2011 was no religion. This increased 10 percentage points. Interestingly, Christianity is not down everywhere. Newham, Haringey, Brent, Boston and Lambeth have all shown increases in the Christian population.
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The vast majority of the population of England & Wales are white - 86%, [...] In London in 2011, 45% (3.7 million) out of 8.2 million usual residents were White British. The number of mixed people went over 1m for the first time, too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...race-education
So you have a white minority in London. Big deal. We have a white minority in at least four or five States. The white population overall is about 70%, compared to your 86%.

Meanwhile, your little speck on the map spent centuries invading and interfering in over one quarter of the entire planet, stealing territory and forcing your culture, religion and illegal hard drugs on to non-whites at the barrel of a gun.

You know, the shit that makes you proud to be British.

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The fact is, we are full, have no money (according to the gov't, so interpret that as 'no money for abc, but plenty for xyz', as per all govt's), and more and more people are at 'breaking point' when it comes to tolerating, and paying for, fanatics to be here marching against the very ideals that allow them to be here marching against them in the first place. That spills over into tarring everyone with the same brush, and voila, civil unrest and some fresh riots are the order of the day.
Do you take the same position with regard to white fanatics (fascists) marching?

Jel 05-22-2013 01:32 PM

^ I'm not saying that's my view necessarily, I was saying how I see the masses see it. So get off that horse with your speech about how I played a part in history, and your digs about us being a speck on the map lol, like I give a fuck some people perceive the UK as a speck blahblahblah

ps - the census quote (why you bolded religion is beyond me, I think idiots are idiots, no matter which religion/football team they hide behind) - if you think that even the 2011 one represents actual figures, you're deluded.

pps proud to be British? lmao, you have no idea about me, obviously, so #1 why would I be proud of where chance put me at birth, and #2 even if I *was* proud to be British, it'd be about here and now, not what went on before I was even born.

in fact your whole post is a load of old bollocks, so much so that this is the only 5 minutes you'll get out of me this month...

dyna mo 05-22-2013 01:34 PM

oh oh

“They were waiting for the police, they were telling people, civilians on the street, to call the police, they wanted to get caught, they were stupid people.”


He said when armed officers arrived a policewoman “jumped out” and shot them both. It was the police who opened first, he confirmed.
He said they had the gun out but were just “walking casually” with their arms at their sides.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ndon-live.html

pimpmaster9000 05-22-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19636069)
oh oh

?They were waiting for the police, they were telling people, civilians on the street, to call the police, they wanted to get caught, they were stupid people.?


He said when armed officers arrived a policewoman ?jumped out? and shot them both. It was the police who opened first, he confirmed.
He said they had the gun out but were just ?walking casually? with their arms at their sides.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ndon-live.html



society is grateful....good job...hope she got them in the nuts first :thumbsup

_Richard_ 05-22-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 19636028)
According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

still not actual proof it was said?

Badmaash 05-22-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19636047)
Happens everywhere. Happens here, happens in Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's take how angry and vengeful people get at this, or at Boston or 9/11, and try to imagine what someone might feel when an American or British bomb has wiped out their entire family. Which we have done to thousands of people.



So you completely write off hard facts in favor of your imagination, based on thin air. Here's the data from your 2011 Census:




http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...race-education
So you have a white minority in London. Big deal. We have a white minority in at least four or five States. The white population overall is about 70%, compared to your 86%.

Meanwhile, your little speck on the map spent centuries invading and interfering in over one quarter of the entire planet, stealing territory and forcing your culture, religion and illegal hard drugs on to non-whites at the barrel of a gun.

You know, the shit that makes you proud to be British.



Do you take the same position with regard to white fanatics (fascists) marching?

Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanks

The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.

However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc

You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.

Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!

helterskelter808 05-22-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19636063)
^ I'm not saying that's my view necessarily, I was saying how I see the masses see it. So get off that horse with your speech about how I played a part in history, and your digs about us being a speck on the map lol, like I give a fuck some people perceive the UK as a speck blahblahblah

Please, tell me more about how little you give a fuck.

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ps - the census quote (why you bolded religion is beyond me, I think idiots are idiots, no matter which religion/football team they hide behind) - if you think that even the 2011 one represents actual figures, you're deluded.
I don't see your stats anywhere.

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pps proud to be British? lmao, you have no idea about me, obviously, so #1 why would I be proud of where chance put me at birth, and #2 even if I *was* proud to be British, it'd be about here and now, not what went on before I was even born.
As you say, I have no idea about you, so it's rather absurd of you to assume I was specifically talking about you.

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in fact your whole post is a load of old bollocks, so much so that this is the only 5 minutes you'll get out of me this month...
I've seen better ways to avoid having to back up mindless ravings.

EddyTheDog 05-22-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19636100)
Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanks

The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.

However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc

You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.

Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!

The Spanish in general do not hate the Brits - That's from first hand experience...

Badmaash 05-22-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19636115)
The Spanish in general do not hate the Brits - That's from first hand experience...

In parts of Costa Del Sol they do...............

Manfap 05-22-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19636100)
Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!

Personally I dislike the 'classic' Brit in Spain too!

Badmaash 05-22-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19636125)
Personally I dislike the 'classic' Brit in Spain too!

Are you Spanish?

Jel 05-22-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19636107)
Please, tell me more about how little you give a fuck.



I don't see your stats anywhere.



As you say, I have no idea about you, so it's rather absurd of you to assume I was specifically talking about you.



I've seen better ways to avoid having to back up mindless ravings.

:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 05-22-2013 02:23 PM

BREAKING - Retaliation attacks in Essex/Woolwich UK

via GLP -

can't find any reference of it on skynews, but they're saying a mosque is under attack, and 'clashes between two groups'

i am assuming one of these are EDL

- EDL confirmations being reported

Si 05-22-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19636121)
In parts of Costa Del Sol they do...............

Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.

Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.

All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days :winkwink:?

dyna mo 05-22-2013 02:26 PM

April 29, 1992


helterskelter808 05-22-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19636100)
Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanks

The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.

However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc

Exactly. Good points.

Quote:

You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.


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Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!
It's interesting that white immigrants in other countries can be so intolerant of other immigrants, or even of the 'native' people in the country they've moved to.

Badmaash 05-22-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 19636153)
Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.

Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.

All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days :winkwink:?

Lol, when I went to Amsterdam ages ago there were so many pubs run by UK people to make UK people feel at home - LOL!!!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

When I went to Magaluf, I thought I had walked into the UK council estates - ahahahhahahhahahahhahah! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Manfap 05-22-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19636128)
Are you Spanish?

Nope British.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 19636153)
Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.

Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.

All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days :winkwink:?

Whre I live I can tell people from the 4 caveman tribes that lived here. It´s full of folklaw and tradition, not the usual stuff either.. damn bagpipes and shit!!!


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