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candyflip 06-10-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1215 (Post 20119313)
ever look into a taco bell dogs eyes and not want to punch it?

Owned on and loved the shit out of the little fucker. He nipped at one of my toddlers and had a new home within 24 hours.

StinkyPink 06-10-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19649303)
If pitbull owners took some more responsibility and ONLY bred to other dogs that had exceptional temperaments then they would slowly become just as safe to be around, but that has yet to happen, and asshole owners like the one mentioned don't help the cause.

They did, and they are called American Bully...

http://theabkcdogs.org/

UKC actually just accepted the American Bully as it's own Breed Standard the end of last year, so technically, they are no longer Pit Bulls, which is what they would be registered as for the last 30 years.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Breed.../AmericanBully

Mine is Rocuby, on the left...
http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/i...dccc0386/l.jpg

MMarko 06-11-2014 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19649048)
If the argument is that it's "not the dog, it's the owner" then why don't I hear more stories of poodles attacking/mauling/killing etc?

It's just really about higher probability that breeds like pit bulls will attract persons with deviant behaviour than poodles. Hence it's the owner not the dog. That kind of person will likely abuse, ignore and mistreat any kind of animals...

Mutt 06-11-2014 02:36 AM

I'm a huge dog lover but people who deny there is a problem with 'pitbulls' are disingenuous at best. There are many who have been bred to fight, of course not a high percentage of all pitbulls, are dangerous. Just like guns, in the hands of responsible intelligent people, pitbulls are fine. But we all know how many white and black scumbags have pitbulls.

A solution could be to regulate the breeding, sales and ownership of pitbulls. I think that's silly. Let the breed die out, don't take them away from current owners of course.

People who love dogs, don't need a pitbull, there are hundreds of breeds big and small to choose from. If you're going to cry about the disappearance of a dog breed you're looney tunes. Not to sound too much like the Squealer but dogs have no clue what breed they are, they don't even know what they look like, dogs look in the mirror and they don't recognize that dog in the mirror is themselves. You aren't letting your dog down by letting his breed disappear, he could not give a shit about what breed he is. He does not care about his legacy, all he wants is friendship, some play/exercise, food and water.

MMarko 06-11-2014 02:57 AM

So you regulate pitbull breeding and eventually breed disappears. You think that another breed won't go same route as pitbull? Idiots will adapt to regulations and breed another types for same purpose.

More would be accomplished if state body checks, investigates and if needed fines / charges people reponsible in case there is animal abuse going on.

pimpmaster9000 06-11-2014 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19649048)
If the argument is that it's "not the dog, it's the owner" then why don't I hear more stories of poodles attacking/mauling/killing etc?


funny you should mention poodles they are #1 on the list for biting humans...small neurotic dogs like to bite more than big stable ones...pit bulls were actually place 30 something...

now as far as fatal attacks go they are high on the list...



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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 19649048)
Just being devil's advocate here. I'd like to hear what people think. I just read this article and it's kinda crazy to think that someone can get charged with murder based on their dog's actions.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...,3599527.story

then its crazy to charge somebody with murder based on their guns actions...hell Ill go buy a crate full of Glock-s and leave them around children and get pissed off when something happens :1orglaugh

the owner IS responsible for EVERYTHING dangerous that he does...it is up to the owner to make sure nothing happens...its like saying "its not my fault the car hit the pedestrians while i was speeding"...

its like this: dog shits on the side walk = its the owners fault for not picking it up

its ALWAYS the owners fault plain and simple...

NETbilling 06-16-2014 10:55 PM

Attention all you pit bull defenders:

Please help....

https://www.facebook.com/victoriasvictories

Thanks, Mitch

Casino Cash Ginny 06-17-2014 01:36 AM

I have owned pit bulls in the past. The pit bull was created by mixing various bull breeds with the terrier breed. It made a very tenacious mix. My last pit was like lassie. She was amazing. I was over the animal aggression tho. I now own an English bulldog. He is like a German Shepard shoved into the body of a beagle. This dog I have also had bite both of my children. The 1st bite I consider mutual combat and the other was because my oldest son screamed and he startled the dog. I never had my pit bite a person and my English bullie doesn't have animal aggression. I now keep the dog in a locked kennel unless I am supervising everyone together and have gone 2yrs without anymore issues.

Casino Cash Ginny 06-17-2014 01:42 AM

The Diane whipple case evolved de presa canario not pit bulls

VikingMan 06-17-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19649144)
You're an idiot.

?Pit bull? is not a breed, but a ?type? that encompasses several registered breeds and crossbreeds. Therefore, statistics that claim ?Pit bulls? are responsible for some percentage of attacks are lumping many separate breeds of dogs together, then comparing those statistics to other dogs that are counted as individual breeds. There are currently 25 breeds that are commonly considered a ?pit bull?.

Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are human aggressive by nature.

Fact: Studies by the Center for Disease Control have proven that no one breed of dog is inherently vicious. The CDC supports the position that irresponsible owners, NOT breed, is the number one cause of dog bites.

Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are inherently vicious.

Fact: No more vicious than Golden Retrievers, Beagles, or other popular ?family? dogs. In a recent testing done by The American Canine Temperament Testing Society (ATT), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%, passing 4th from the highest of 122 breeds. That?s better than Beagles, passing at 78.2 and Golden Retrievers passing at 83.2%. The average passing rate for ALL breeds is 77%.

Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are responsible for most fatal dog attacks.

Fact: From 1965 ? 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States. (This number rises to at least 52 breeds/types when surveying fatal attacks worldwide).

Read More...


Here's a recent picture of my "vicious Pit Bull" "attacking" a less than 1 month old colt.

http://i.imgur.com/gGZX2WE.jpg

This dog is 4 years old and has been raised properly and in a loving home... He's only ever attacked ANYTHING once, and that was my moms adopted from humane society half Rottweiler half Shepard dog who turned on him and attempted to kill him and another dog. And even then, he only attacked back enough to defend himself, she only had a few cuts on her from him, while he was almost clinging on to life.


Love that pic! Looks more like a mastiff than a pit bull though.

TurboAngel 06-17-2014 07:55 AM

I love mine. My Best friend is a dog trainer so she has manners. I don't allow her around kids and we go to group where all the dog's my bf have trained come together in a huge park.


https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...2_399038_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n..._7943969_n.jpg

TurboAngel 06-17-2014 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 20127262)
I love mine. My Best friend is a dog trainer so she has manners. I don't allow her around kids and we go to group where all the dog's my bf have trained come together in a huge park.


https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...2_399038_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n..._7943969_n.jpg

Only bad thing about those pics is they are old. She weighed about 30 pounds now she's 68 pounds.

MediaGuy 06-17-2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19649130)
Sadly this is only partially true.

I have trained dogs for more than 15 years in basic ob. as well as S and R and attack for protection and for ring competitions.

The only dogs I have ever seen that go nuts and attack with no apparent provocation is Pit Bulls.

My son is constantly around many different breeds of attack dogs and has never been hurt. But I wont let him near a pit as I have seen them attack for nothing at all.

Actually I've seen a Dalmatian go bananas for no reason (took a chunk out of my friend's belly) and a Doberman, who dragged an old woman by her fur coat down the sidewalk.

My pitbull Nero only once snapped at a bicycle a kid was riding because she was deliberately skidding sideways at him, spooking him with the thing, and then another time at someone who was literally attacking a friend - yelling and shoving. But snapped, no biting or attacking.

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Originally Posted by wizzart (Post 19649139)
I have pit bull and that is great breed.

"it's the owner" in 100% cases because every pit bull can be like a cat.

My Pit was raised with cats, his current buddy is Batman. They sleep butt-to-butt, and chase each other around the house when they play. I don't know if it's a breed thing or just Nero, but he's curious like a cat as well, always checks mirrors in case they're windows or passages, knows his left from right, etc...

Some stats show more pitbull mortalities from attacks, but less actual attacks from pitbulls.

I tend to agree it's the owner.

Recently a little girl was attacked by "A Dog" according to the headline - no breed specified.

This was just after another little girl was attacked by "A PitBull".

Pit Bulls make good headlines. Hundreds of attacks occur every day, but the pitbulls make the headlines.

For some reason, when it's a Poodle or a German Shepherd, it either doesn't make headlines or the breed just isn't mentioned.

:D

NETbilling 06-20-2014 12:17 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ticle-1.950404

MrGusMuller 06-20-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel D (Post 19649120)
But i must say it was the retarded owner i blame

:thumbsup

80% owner fault
15% who got bitten fault
5% dogs fault

(not saying that it was your wife fault)

Evil Chris 06-20-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20119189)
Find the pittbull: http://www.pbrc.net/misc/PBRC_find_the_pitbull.pdf

(hint: there's only one)

#3

or maybe #15.

_Richard_ 06-20-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGusMuller (Post 20130811)
:thumbsup

80% owner fault
15% who got bitten fault
5% dogs fault

(not saying that it was your wife fault)

:2 cents: always exceptions however

WarChild 06-20-2014 09:46 AM

What is funny about the Internet is that everybody is an expert and it's mostly based on their own (limited) personal experiences. If only there were experts, who looked at all of the data and analyzed it without emotion and initial bias. Oh wait, there are. Namely the American Veterinary Medical Association and the American Humane Association. Don't be fooled in to thinking only American experts think this way. It's pretty much the universal opinion of professionals in most countries.

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BSL Does Not Work

While supporters of BSL argue that the only way to be safe from dog bites is to eradicate “dangerous breeds” from the community, there is little evidence that supports BSL as an effective means of reducing dog bites and dog attacks. On the contrary, studies have shown that it is not the breeds themselves that are dangerous, but unfavorable situations that are creating dangerous dogs. Often, the very research that some cite as “support” for BSL actually argues for alternative, more effective means...
http://www.americanhumane.org/animal...gislation.html
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Any dog can bite, regardless of its breed, and more often people are bitten by dogs they know. It’s not the dog’s breed that determines risk -- it’s the dog’s behavior, general size, number of dogs involved and the vulnerability of the person bitten that determines whether or not a dog or dogs will cause a serious bite injury. Dogs can be aggressive for all sorts of reasons. A dog that’s bitten once can bite again, and a dog that’s never bitten could still bite.
https://www.avma.org/public/Pages/Wh...he-Answer.aspx
The experts have spoken. Everything else is just your layman's opinion and really should be treated as such. No matter how many articles on dog attacks you dig up and post.

WarChild 06-20-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20126871)
Attention all you pit bull defenders:

Please help....

https://www.facebook.com/victoriasvictories

Thanks, Mitch

Hey Mitch saw your post and I feel really bad for the little girl. I went to go help as per your request but I see God already has this one covered!

timmyc38 06-20-2014 09:52 AM

pitbulls get a bad rap - I have one, and she is the sweetest dog ever

StinkyPink 06-20-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 20131135)
#3

or maybe #15.

I would have guessed #9. #3 to me, looks like American Bully, and #15 perhaps American Bulldog.

SuckOnThis 06-20-2014 12:20 PM

This just in the past few weeks and there's plenty more.........

Two-year-old boy killed by family Pit Bull in Fulton County


3 Pit Bulls Attack Pregnant Mom, Kill 4-Year-Old Son


Kennewick woman hospitalized after vicious pit bull attack


Pet Pit Bull Attacks and kills toddler


Pitbull attacks 12-year-old Washington, La. boy


Mom beats pit bulls with bat to stop horrific attack on daughter


Woman attacked by pit bull



Neighbors try to help man being attacked by pit bulls in Lake Worth


6-year-old in critical condition after vicious pit bull attack


South Florida Man Hospitalized After Pit Bull Attack


Pit bull attacks woman walking on sidewalk


Pit bull attacks jogger in Sterling


Pit bulls attack two men in Riverside County


Girl's family says 6-year-old suffered horrific injuries in pit bull attack in Westwood


Infant girl recovering after pit bull attack


Pit bull attack sends woman to the hospital


Lyons boy, 12, attacked by pit bulls while walking to bus stop


New Albany senior citizen injured after pit bull attacks


The lucky ones......

http://marioncountyinformer.com/wp-c...ull-attack.jpg


http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-85TAQ7K5AF6DMIN5.jpg


http://www.fox16.com/media/lib/9/5/8...f16a/Story.jpg


http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws....__11_12_09.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OmfN8BkeI4...53143797_n.jpg


http://img.ksl.com/slc/1961/196176/1...ter=ksl/img332


http://katv.images.worldnow.com/images/19401161_BG1.jpg

NETbilling 06-27-2014 11:41 PM

Watched a poor lady and her dog get attacked by a pit bill today in the lobby at the condo tower here today. Really sad.

TurboAngel 06-28-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 20140137)
Watched a poor lady and her dog get attacked by a pit bill today in the lobby at the condo tower here today. Really sad.

You just watched? I would have picked something up and hit the shit out of the dog.

NETbilling 06-28-2014 12:41 PM

I came at the ending
Others saw and 3 other guys were living and hitting the dog together to stop. The owner was powerless.
These dogs need to be banned.

CDSmith 06-28-2014 01:31 PM

So, is it the media having some twisted bias agenda thus they selectively cherry pick and sensationalize pit bull attacks because they're "big news"?

or..

are there so many more pit bull attacks reported in the news simply because there are more pit bull attacks than other types and breeds?

Which is it? Because I have to say, a lot of people sure seem pretty sick to death of hearing of yet another pit bull attack in the news. Seems like every other week there's one in the news no matter where you're from. Nation-wide that's one hell of a lot of pit bull attacks.

"It's not the dog, it's the owner" -- is that really going to be enough of an argument to keep these dogs from being banned?

If it's indeed not the dog it's the owner then why are the dogs so often destroyed after and attack but the idiot irresponsible owner is let off with barely a fine?

Could it be that at the end of the day it's both the owner and the type of dog?

I'm asking here, don't shoot me.

Boobgirl 06-28-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20140560)
So, is it the media having some twisted bias agenda thus they selectively cherry pick and sensationalize pit bull attacks because they're "big news"?

or..

are there so many more pit bull attacks reported in the news simply because there are more pit bull attacks than other types and breeds?

Which is it? Because I have to say, a lot of people sure seem pretty sick to death of hearing of yet another pit bull attack in the news. Seems like every other week there's one in the news no matter where you're from. Nation-wide that's one hell of a lot of pit bull attacks.

"It's not the dog, it's the owner" -- is that really going to be enough of an argument to keep these dogs from being banned?

If it's indeed not the dog it's the owner then why are the dogs so often destroyed after and attack but the idiot irresponsible owner is let off with barely a fine?

Could it be that at the end of the day it's both the owner and the type of dog?

I'm asking here, don't shoot me.


All dogs need to be treated and trained correctly, no matter what the size. Its only the pit bulls that get the attention because they are so strong and can do a lot of damage. Its the owners responsibility to know that they have a big, strong, dog that if left to its own regards will act out. What happens when you leave a kid without giving it the proper education, exercise and attention - it acts out. A dog will do the same. If a dog it not given the proper care, its going to act out.


Its too bad that the laws do not do enough to keep dog owners to properly care for dogs -and this also includes animal abuse.


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