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dyna mo 06-04-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654295)
I somehow understand how pot junkies claim alcohol is worse than grass, but when somebody claims alcohol is worse than heroin or meth its new level :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

spend several years in recovery and then you can have an intelligent opinion on the subject.

dyna mo 06-04-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bangeduppeaches (Post 19654302)
I would say that if there's any sort of real "gateway drugs" it would be pills to heroine..

it's been the other way around for me, the be all end all is a good solid script! :1orglaugh

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Grapesoda 06-04-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19653950)
got this from Yahoo answers, and it made some decent sense:

Between Meth and Heroin, I'd say Meth is harsher on you physically and mentally. However, Heroin is more likely to immediately kill you. Just depends on whether you want a fast or slow death.

The hallucinations you experienced were caused by either sleep deprivation, overdose, or both. Most people on meth will start seeing things by day 4 of a binge, but that's not necessarily a "rule."

I know only one heroin user and she is very paranoid.

Meth psychosis is caused by the way meth tinkers with 3 different neuro-transmitters in the brain. They are called Serotonin, Dopamine, and norepinephrine. Using meth will eventually cause your brain to become deficient of these neuro-transmitters, thus creating the conditions required for meth induced psychosis. This psychosis is temporary 98% of the time.

Though I'm not endorsing use of a street drug, you would probably be better off sticking with meth. You probably won't live as long on heroin. Also, heroin withdraw can literally kill you.

answer is wrong on several levels... you can overdose on heroin easily however you can use heroin daily for 30+ years but not meth... 5-6 years tops on meth... and that would be like a fucking miracle, and heroin withdrawals you might wish you would die, but you won't...

Grapesoda 06-04-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19654322)
it's been the other way around for me, the be all end all is a good solid script! :1orglaugh

when I was a kid it was easier to get junk than weed, was just bullshit the hippes fucked around with but us druggies went with the junk :2 cents:

dyna mo 06-04-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19654340)
when I was a kid it was easier to get junk than weed :2 cents:

exactly. i didn't even start weed until late teens. the most difficult detox i've ever had was benzodiazapines. that one i could not do alone. that was a very long time ago, glad that's over.

in fact, i might have to say that's even more difficult than alcohol.

mineistaken 06-04-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19654311)
alcohol is one of the worst for sure... you can die from alcohol withdrawals but not from meth or junk, is that funny enough for you? :2 cents:

Take 1000 alcohol users, take 1000 heroin users, take 1000 meth users.
Then come back after five years and look at all of them (if they are alive of course)
Enough said?

dyna mo 06-04-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654359)
Take 1000 alcohol users, take 1000 heroin users, take 1000 meth users.
Then come back after five years and look at all of them (if they are alive of course)
Enough said?

no, not enough said.

show me where you've done that.

SuckOnThis 06-04-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654359)
Take 1000 alcohol users, take 1000 heroin users, take 1000 meth users.
Then come back after five years and look at all of them (if they are alive of course)
Enough said?


Alcohol Worse Than Heroin
http://www.newser.com/story/104257/p...an-heroin.html

(Newser) ? Alcohol is more dangerous for humans than crack or heroin, according to a surprising assessment by a British drug expert. Professor David Nutt's scoring system ranked alcohol three times more harmful than cocaine or tobacco; ecstasy, mushrooms, and LSD were among the least harmful. The rankings were created based on input from experts, who scored substances based on harm caused to users as well as harm to others, reports the BBC.

xxxjay 06-04-2013 09:47 AM

Meth.

Neither are good choices.

dyna mo 06-04-2013 09:51 AM

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Dankasaur 06-04-2013 09:58 AM

All drugs are the same... if you abuse them, you're gonna get fucked up... No drug is better than another. All are equally bad.

Edit:

I've done coke, meth, weed, cigarettes and alcohol... I only do weed and drink occasionally (down from $300-500/nights to $50 a month)

mineistaken 06-04-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19654377)
no, not enough said.

show me where you've done that.

If you do not see the difference between average alcohol user and average meth user after 5 (or whatever number) years of using (both in physical appearance and social life changes) you are even more stupid than I thought :1orglaugh
Actually I do not believbe anybody could be that stupid, so my conclusion is that you are just failing at trolling.

mineistaken 06-04-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19654383)
Alcohol Worse Than Heroin
http://www.newser.com/story/104257/p...an-heroin.html

(Newser) – Alcohol is more dangerous for humans than crack or heroin, according to a surprising assessment by a British drug expert. Professor David Nutt's scoring system ranked alcohol three times more harmful than cocaine or tobacco; ecstasy, mushrooms, and LSD were among the least harmful. The rankings were created based on input from experts, who scored substances based on harm caused to users as well as harm to others, reports the BBC.

Comprehend before posting irrelevant article:
Meth and heroin, and crack are most harmful to user according to that very survey you quote:
"The panel concluded that heroin, crack, and meth were the most harmful drugs to individuals".
Alcohol is more dangerous to society (like alcoholics do the most damage or stuff like that) is what they are saying.

We are talking about harm to user, not harm to society in this thread.

Not to mention that these findings were "found" to back anti booze campaigns. Grain of salt is needed :)

dyna mo 06-04-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654425)
If you do not see the difference between average alcohol user and average meth user after 5 (or whatever number) years of using (both in physical appearance and social life changes) you are even more stupid than I thought :1orglaugh
Actually I do not believbe anybody could be that stupid, so my conclusion is that you are just failing at trolling.

right. so you pull shit out of your ass then tell me i'm a stupid troll.


got it.

SuckOnThis 06-04-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654435)
Comprehend before posting irrelevant article:
Meth and heroin, and crack is the most harmful to user according that very survey you quote.
Alcohol is more dangerous to society (like alcoholics do the most damage or stuff like that) is what they are saying.

Quit defending your alcoholism and get some help.


http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...0007/drugs.jpg

baryl 06-04-2013 10:20 AM

Heroin has legitimate medical uses as a painkiller.

Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.

adulttraffic 06-04-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by baryl (Post 19654446)
Heroin has legitimate medical uses as a painkiller.

Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.

Meth actually did server a purpose for the Nazi's during the war in the 30's and 40's.
They used to give it to their troops to keep them awake and fighting for days on end under the trade name Pervtin. Even Hitler used meth back then.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1AysH3o4kM...0/pervitin.jpg

Matyko 06-04-2013 12:01 PM

it is possible to use meth w/o any issues.. [occasionally on parties, or a little line to learn or work harder] Can't say the same about Heroin.

Matyko 06-04-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19654411)
All drugs are the same... if you abuse them, you're gonna get fucked up... No drug is better than another. All are equally bad.

Edit:

I've done coke, meth, weed, cigarettes and alcohol... I only do weed and drink occasionally (down from $300-500/nights to $50 a month)

so you've tried the 5 most common stuff and you KNOW that they are equal. Makes sense. :upsidedow

90% of the ppl posting in this thread know nothing about drugs, the vote results definitely confirm this.:2 cents:

Dankasaur 06-04-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 19654607)
so you've tried the 5 most common stuff and you KNOW that they are equal. Makes sense. :upsidedow

90% of the ppl posting in this thread know nothing about drugs, the vote results definitely confirm this.:2 cents:

Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good? :disgust

digitalfantasies 06-04-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19654563)
Meth actually did server a purpose for the Nazi's during the war in the 30's and 40's.
They used to give it to their troops to keep them awake and fighting for days on end under the trade name Pervtin. Even Hitler used meth back then.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1AysH3o4kM...0/pervitin.jpg

thats sounds awesome....



noooooooooooot

dyna mo 06-04-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19654612)
Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good? :disgust

i think he's trying to say he's better because he knows more about teh drugZ, so just shush.

OldJeff 06-04-2013 12:13 PM

Nicotine, by far the hardest to quit

Matyko 06-04-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19654612)
Are you seriously trying to justify that ANY drug is good? :disgust

I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.

Choopa_Pardo 06-04-2013 01:10 PM

Having witnessed the pain heroin addiction can cause to a family, that get my vote.

It's the nastiest drug on earth

Dankasaur 06-04-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 19654683)
I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.

http://i.imgur.com/sGOHx9D.gif

bangeduppeaches 06-04-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 19654683)
I hate the expression 'drugs' btw.. Of course some of them are good!! Personally I can say that LSD was a game changer for me and all my psychedelic trips and experiences were and are taking a Great part in me turning to a better, more peaceful and way more open minded, etc. I don't regret any mushi, acid and other psychedelics I ever ate.

However I believe you know very little about this topic, I do understand the content of your question: you might think drugs are equal with physical stimulants which sooner or later do damage you or you might think all consuming drugs means you abuse yourself with your fav 'drug'. I can assure you that there Are chemicals which you can use 'occasionally' and they won't ever cause permanent harm to neither your soul and your body.

This :).. I love getting dosed up.. Psychs are a lot of fun and can really be a mind eye opener..
I've tried my hand at my fair share of drugs.. From opium to coke, LSD to bloomers.. I medicate everyday, though i really dont think that should be called a drug. Tried most scripts and other silly things like that.. E and molly as well.. Never done meth.. Though I can probably say that if I lived in Cali or somewhere out west I probably would have checked it out.. And I've never tried dope, and never will,I just had a first hand account of what it does to family and loved ones.. Not to mention the amount of friends I've had OD on the shit.

But I am a serious advocate for LSD and other psychs.. Just make sure you're in a good state of mind and around good people when doing it.

L-Pink 06-04-2013 01:53 PM

Did I do drugs? I used to get thank you Christmas cards from Columbia. Pretty much vodka only now …….

d-null 06-04-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baryl (Post 19654446)
Heroin has legitimate medical uses as a painkiller.

Meth serves no purpose whatsoever.

http://www.rxlist.com/desoxyn-drug.htm

scottybuzz 06-04-2013 02:39 PM

wow. i totally know nothing about either drugs and do not want to.

I guess this is a good thing ?

adulttraffic 06-04-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 19654839)

Christ.. didn't know it could be prescribed for kids. Back in the 70's and 80's when kids had issues a doctor would tell parents it was just a growing phase and they would grow out of it. Now they have names for it including HIGHLY addictive drugs to treat the so call conditions. Would be a cold day in hell before I would let any doctor get my kids addicted to any type of medicine.

adulttraffic 06-04-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19654885)
wow. i totally know nothing about either drugs and do not want to.

I guess this is a good thing ?

Yes.. your naivety would be a very good thing. Drugs can be fun but addiction sucks.

ZombieMovies 06-04-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19654310)
carry on careers with pill addictions.. as per the current convotrain of people who can carry on lives with heroin addictions

It was already mentioned but opiates lead to more opiates, and tolerance to opiates is developed fast. It's possible someone could carry on for awhile, sure, but a really super typical path for pills is popping, snorting, injecting... which typically leads to heroin or morphine.

_Richard_ 06-04-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZombieMovies (Post 19654961)
It was already mentioned but opiates lead to more opiates, and tolerance to opiates is developed fast. It's possible someone could carry on for awhile, sure, but a really super typical path for pills is popping, snorting, injecting... which typically leads to heroin or morphine.

popping a pill is a whole lot different than snorting one

you have a social norm of popping pills, and snorting a social stigmata.. so your 'gateway' idea is not a good argument

ZombieMovies 06-04-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 19654328)

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ZombieMovies 06-04-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19654629)
Nicotine, by far the hardest to quit

Mostly only because of the reinforced habit. You're reinforcing your addiction 20+ times a day so that is definitely hard to break. Withdrawal symptoms are nowhere near as painful, grueling, or long as opiates though.


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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19654965)
popping a pill is a whole lot different than snorting one

you have a social norm of popping pills, and snorting a social stigmata.. so your 'gateway' idea is not a good argument

Yo I'm just telling you what I see every single day in my field. Take it or leave it.

iSpyCams 06-04-2013 03:55 PM

I would say Heroin is better than Meth because death is a very effective cure for drug addiction and Heroin seems to cure its users more quickly.

BFT3K 06-04-2013 04:19 PM

Prescription Drugs Now Kill More People In The US Than Heroin And Cocaine Combined

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/paink...#ixzz2VIDUOah3

dyna mo 06-04-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19655015)
Prescription Drugs Now Kill More People In The US Than Heroin And Cocaine Combined

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/paink...#ixzz2VIDUOah3

of course, and not just because more people use them, but because they are better/stronger consistently.


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