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Rochard 06-05-2013 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19655260)
what does his addiction have to do with it? money doesnt change who you are :2 cents:

That's exactly my point. Stupid is stupid. They handed him a golden ticket to make himself a better life, and instead he ended up dead in his pool from a cocaine overdose in fucking Rialto California. It's very sad.

blackmonsters 06-05-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19655742)
That's exactly my point. Stupid is stupid. They handed him a golden ticket to make himself a better life, and instead he ended up dead in his pool from a cocaine overdose in fucking Rialto California. It's very sad.

Great point, stupid people don't deserve justice.

Got it!

:helpme

Rochard 06-05-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19655696)
lol, 'deserved'.

And it's ok to beat the shit out of someone in that context of 4 cops v Rodney King if it teaches him/them something? What a pile of shit...

I never said what happened to Rodney King was "okay" or even remotely acceptable.

What happened to him was horrible, but it made him a millionaire. Instead of moving to the beach and never been seen or heard from again, he continued to do drugs and continued to get in trouble with the law. Eventually his drugs killed him.

blackmonsters 06-05-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19654888)
Its funny how idiots would post a title like this whenever both parties are not of the same race :1orglaugh
This african gentleman is racist number 2 on gfy after pastorsinalot :)

Is it racist to call someone racist without reading the article and seeing that he only quoted it?

I fucking swear that the quote below are the first words of the article.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...204501776.html
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A southeast Texas town with a history of racial unrest on Monday fired two white police officers recently captured on video slamming a black woman?s head into a countertop and wrestling her to the ground.
I fail to see any difference between his post and the news story.

Did you phone up the reporter and call him/her racist?

No.

You didn't did you.

:disgust

MrBottomTooth 06-05-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19654998)
I've never been arrested, but I went through a full felony stop. The shut down the freeway, and I had multiple officers with handguns trained me. Trust me I followed their every last command to the letter. And I still got man handled - even though I had nothing more then speeding.
You get what you deserve in life.

So you did nothing more than speed and you still think it was OK for them to manhandle you?

Why would you defend them for treating you like shit for no apparent reason?

blackmonsters 06-05-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19655753)
I never said what happened to Rodney King was "okay" or even remotely acceptable.

What happened to him was horrible, but it made him a millionaire. Instead of moving to the beach and never been seen or heard from again, he continued to do drugs and continued to get in trouble with the law. Eventually his drugs killed him.

No way RK had any post traumatic issues after the beating right?

This bitch didn't even have to get beat to die.

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/...k-15.jpg?w=500

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 06-05-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19655789)
So you did nothing more than speed and you still think it was OK for them to manhandle you?

Why would you defend them for treating you like shit for no apparent reason?

He's just happy that they didn't actually beat him so he trying to praise them as a thank you.

If they had cracked him in his fucking mouth with a baton he'd have the video all over youtube and 3 lawyers.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 06-05-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19655732)
Do you think $5.95 is enough to make it all go away?

:1orglaugh

it should be.

you think paying her off a million(s) makes the problem go away?

:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 06-05-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19655836)
it should be.

you think paying her off a million(s) makes the problem go away?

:1orglaugh

Ask Fred Goldman.


:ticking

dyna mo 06-05-2013 07:50 AM

do you have his # handy? i don't have it with me here.

helterskelter808 06-05-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19655789)
So you did nothing more than speed and you still think it was OK for them to manhandle you?

Why would you defend them for treating you like shit for no apparent reason?

It's the price he pays for being free.

brassmonkey 06-05-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19655752)
Great point, stupid people don't deserve justice.

Got it!

:helpme

:thumbsup :thumbsup

JP-pornshooter 06-05-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19655071)
how much punishment should the sheriff's department of a town of 5000 get dollar-wise? why wouldn't they get some sort of punishment that fit the crime?

it is not about the Sheriffs dept, it is the two officers.
criminal charges should be brought onto those two police officers.
let them face the law, perhaps they will come out the other end as better people.

dyna mo 06-05-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 19656116)
it is not about the Sheriffs dept, it is the two officers.
criminal charges should be brought onto those two police officers.
let them face the law, perhaps they will come out the other end as better people.

that's secondary to a payout that the sheriff's department/local government/taxpayers will pay out to her.

brassmonkey 06-06-2013 04:33 AM

Keyarika "Shea" Diggles, 25
 
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19656173)
that's secondary to a payout that the sheriff's department/local government/taxpayers will pay out to her.


Keyarika "Shea" Diggles, 25 reaches a 3 million dollar settlement :winkwink:

Rochard 06-06-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19655684)
That being paid public servants meting out their own form of justice, thanks to losing their temper? Where's the personal responsibilty that comes with accepting the role of a police officer, bring with it all the idiots that it may? Don't have the temperament - don't become a police officer, end of. Don't lose your temper & professionalism, do something clearly not in your job description, then whine it was the other person's fault for hurting your feelings etc.

As I've said before though, it really does take a certain character type to be a police officer, and acting like a dick because the other person didn't act the *exact* way you want them to, or turn into a submissive wreck, while on a power trip is up in the top 3 traits required.

Should be arrested and charged/punished accordingly for assault etc

But where do you see them acting out? Do you honestly mean to tell me that these two cops just decided to beat down on this woman for no real reason knowing there was cameras recording everything? i find that hard to believe.

I saw a woman who got to make her phone call and then was being escorted back to her cell - and refused. The police tried multiple times to get her to go back to her cell and she continued to refuse them. Eventually force was used.

You seem to have an issue with police officers. You seem to think that having a "power trip" is a top requirement for being a police officer. Well, do you have any friends that are police officers? I do, and their stories are amazing. Every day they deal with the bottom of the barrel - the people stupid enough to get into trouble in the first place. They don't have power trips; They just want to get through their day without being shot, kicked, hit, punched, smacked, or spit on or worse.

This woman was under arrest in a police station. "Oh, you don't want to go back to your cell? No problem, let's go to Starbucks instead". It doesn't work that way.

blackmonsters 06-06-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19657774)
But where do you see them acting out? Do you honestly mean to tell me that these two cops just decided to beat down on this woman for no real reason knowing there was cameras recording everything? i find that hard to believe.

1. I saw a woman who got to make her phone call and then was being 2. escorted back to her cell - and refused. The police tried multiple times to get her to go back to her cell and she continued to refuse them. Eventually force was used.

You seem to have an issue with police officers. You seem to think that having a "power trip" is a top requirement for being a police officer. Well, do you have any friends that are police officers? I do, and their stories are amazing. Every day they deal with the bottom of the barrel - the people stupid enough to get into trouble in the first place. They don't have power trips; They just want to get through their day without being shot, kicked, hit, punched, smacked, or spit on or worse.

This woman was under arrest in a police station. "Oh, you don't want to go back to your cell? No problem, let's go to Starbucks instead". It doesn't work that way.

1. I could swear I saw the cop hang the phone up on her while she was making that call.

2. I can't help you there, no power to fix straight up fucking stupid.

:1orglaugh

helterskelter808 06-06-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19657788)
1. I could swear I saw the cop hang the phone up on her while she was making that call.

Indeed. This shit is dumb even for him. He clearly hasn't even watched the fucking video.

kane 06-06-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19657774)
But where do you see them acting out? Do you honestly mean to tell me that these two cops just decided to beat down on this woman for no real reason knowing there was cameras recording everything? i find that hard to believe.

I saw a woman who got to make her phone call and then was being escorted back to her cell - and refused. The police tried multiple times to get her to go back to her cell and she continued to refuse them. Eventually force was used.

You seem to have an issue with police officers. You seem to think that having a "power trip" is a top requirement for being a police officer. Well, do you have any friends that are police officers? I do, and their stories are amazing. Every day they deal with the bottom of the barrel - the people stupid enough to get into trouble in the first place. They don't have power trips; They just want to get through their day without being shot, kicked, hit, punched, smacked, or spit on or worse.

This woman was under arrest in a police station. "Oh, you don't want to go back to your cell? No problem, let's go to Starbucks instead". It doesn't work that way.

When I watch the video it is hard for me to know how much she is really resisting them because there is no audio. She is waving one arm around, but it doesn't look like she is putting up too much of a physical fight and more like she is being annoying and yelling at them.

I can understand that the office who was handcuffing her and took her down wanted to get control of her, but at some point you have to ask yourself what level of force is adequate. Handcuffing her is fine. If she was really putting up that much of a fight why did the other cop just stand there and do nothing? He could have grabbed her other arm. The two guys could have easily taken control of her without having to use a too much force. Instead, the one cop decides to slam her face first into a desk. To me that was excessive.

The department they worked for appears to feel the same way or they wouldn't have fired these two. By firing them and dropping the charges against her they are basically admitting that they are in the wrong here.

_Richard_ 06-06-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19655126)
I do not.

With that said, here's how this plays out... Black honey boo boo there is gonna get a fat pay day, spend it all on whatever, she'll be broke in two months, and a year after pay day she'll be back in jail for another stupid minor infraction.

is this.. due to your extensive research and insight into the individual

or something else?

brassmonkey 06-06-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19658015)
When I watch the video it is hard for me to know how much she is really resisting them because there is no audio. She is waving one arm around, but it doesn't look like she is putting up too much of a physical fight and more like she is being annoying and yelling at them.

I can understand that the office who was handcuffing her and took her down wanted to get control of her, but at some point you have to ask yourself what level of force is adequate. Handcuffing her is fine. If she was really putting up that much of a fight why did the other cop just stand there and do nothing? He could have grabbed her other arm. The two guys could have easily taken control of her without having to use a too much force. Instead, the one cop decides to slam her face first into a desk. To me that was excessive.

The department they worked for appears to feel the same way or they wouldn't have fired these two. By firing them and dropping the charges against her they are basically admitting that they are in the wrong here.


All over $100!!! 100 mistakes!!!!

kane 06-06-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19658042)

All over $100!!! 100 mistakes!!!!

That is the biggest point for me. This entire thing went down over a $100 fine not being paid.

I understand that they want to collect fines, but there has to be a better way of going about it than arresting people.

adulttraffic 06-06-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19655692)
I was taught that too. Then realised what a load of bollocks that is.

I guess its OK as long as you wear a white tank top while doing it?

brassmonkey 06-06-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19658060)
That is the biggest point for me. This entire thing went down over a $100 fine not being paid.

I understand that they want to collect fines, but there has to be a better way of going about it than arresting people.

visit their house or if their stopped they go to jail and get the money paid by friend or relative and go home. somehow i think it was more than just about the $100 fine.

omg!! its a tiny place!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Jasper is the county seat of Jasper County, Texas, in the United States. The population was 8,247 at the 2000 census and 7,714 at the 2010 census. Jasper is situated in the Deep East Texas subregion, about 130 miles northeast of Houston. Wikipedia
Area: 10.4 sq miles (26.94 km²)
Weather: 74°F (23°C), Wind S at 0 mph (0 km/h), 91% Humidity
Population: 7,714 (2011)

shes going after the wallet http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3383604.html

Rochard 06-06-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19658015)
When I watch the video it is hard for me to know how much she is really resisting them because there is no audio. She is waving one arm around, but it doesn't look like she is putting up too much of a physical fight and more like she is being annoying and yelling at them.

I can understand that the office who was handcuffing her and took her down wanted to get control of her, but at some point you have to ask yourself what level of force is adequate. Handcuffing her is fine. If she was really putting up that much of a fight why did the other cop just stand there and do nothing? He could have grabbed her other arm. The two guys could have easily taken control of her without having to use a too much force. Instead, the one cop decides to slam her face first into a desk. To me that was excessive.

The department they worked for appears to feel the same way or they wouldn't have fired these two. By firing them and dropping the charges against her they are basically admitting that they are in the wrong here.

It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

kane 06-06-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19658102)
It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sure, a person in custody shouldn't resist and the police have a right to protect themselves and do their job, but I am a believer in the idea that the punishment must fit the crime. If she were trowing punches, kicking and really fighting them then I would have no problem with him doing what he did. It looked to me like she was talking to them and having a disagreement with them and he decided to face plant her.

I think there was likely a better way for this to have been handled.

dyna mo 06-06-2013 02:32 PM

i'll go ahead and say it.

coming up on someone from behind, grabbing them by the hair and smashing their face in the counter is punk ass shit you see in a yellow beer bar fight, not at the fucking police station.

it seems odd to even have this debate, the cops were fired, would the sheriff's dept offer themselves up directly to liability by firing those guys if it was not completely clear they were out of line?

hell no they would not.

JP-pornshooter 06-06-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19658102)
It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

Matt 26z 06-06-2013 07:01 PM

Being locked up has turned into a rite of passage for many blacks. They do not fear the modern criminal justice system. If stuff like this is what it takes to bring that fear back, then so be it.

And I'm not saying that just because I'm white. If that was a punk white boy mouthing off in the lockup I still wouldn't care. I would say he is learning his lesson.

blackmonsters 06-06-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19658461)
Being locked up has turned into a rite of passage for many blacks. They do not fear the modern criminal justice system. If stuff like this is what it takes to bring that fear back, then so be it.

And I'm not saying that just because I'm white. If that was a punk white boy mouthing off in the lockup I still wouldn't care. I would say he is learning his lesson.

You know nothing about black people. Quit fooling yourself that you do.

Your attempt to cause fear in black people will most likely be met with terror.

:2 cents:

escorpio 06-06-2013 09:21 PM

I lol'd when the cop went flying backwards and fell on his ass when her shoe came off as he was trying to drag her by her leg.

John-ACWM 06-07-2013 07:55 AM

Cops sure need to know how to handle things.

brassmonkey 06-07-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John-ACWM (Post 19659106)
Cops sure need to know how to handle things.

they get away with a lot of this kind of stuff. there was a phoenix cop put a crack pipe on a lady as a joke he says. 1 day suspended with pay :disgust

_Richard_ 06-07-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 19658353)
strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

and they want more of him and less of you

: D

don't forget to report the child introverts!

Just Alex 06-07-2013 08:45 PM

Racist piece of shit purposely turns simple police brutality case it in to his usual whites beating blacks cries.

Rochard 06-07-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 19658353)
strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

So when a prisoner refuses to go back to to their cell... what should the police do? Keep asking nicely until they wear the prisoner down? Maybe buy her a sandwich?

When a prisoner refuses to go back to their cell or refuses to put on handcuffs or pretty much refuses anything, they get forced.

kane 06-07-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19660190)
So when a prisoner refuses to go back to to their cell... what should the police do? Keep asking nicely until they wear the prisoner down? Maybe buy her a sandwich?

When a prisoner refuses to go back to their cell or refuses to put on handcuffs or pretty much refuses anything, they get forced.

When I watch the video I see no escalation of force. He grabs one of her arms and puts a handcuff on it. She isn't pulling that arm away or fighting with him, it looks like she is arguing with the other officer. Neither of them even try to grab her free arm. They don't grab her shirt and try to press her against the wall. Instead the one cop powerslams her face first into the desk.

Now, as I have said before, you can't hear what is being said so you have to take that into consideration, but it seems to me like they could have stepped their aggression up a little bit and at least tried to grab her other arm first. If they try a few other less intense things and she still is resisting then kick it up.

EDIT: I just went back and watched the video again. Fast forward to about the 3:40 mark. She is talking/arguing with one cop. The other cop comes up behind her and grabs her left arm and handcuffs it. The first cop grabs her right arm. They have control of her. She doesn't appear to be fighting them, but she is still running her mouth. That is when the cop who has her left arm grabs her by the hair and slams her into the desk.

To me she was not a threat to them. They had her under control and the level of aggression that was used was not needed.

brassmonkey 06-07-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19660229)
When I watch the video I see no escalation of force. He grabs one of her arms and puts a handcuff on it. She isn't pulling that arm away or fighting with him, it looks like she is arguing with the other officer. Neither of them even try to grab her free arm. They don't grab her shirt and try to press her against the wall. Instead the one cop powerslams her face first into the desk.

Now, as I have said before, you can't hear what is being said so you have to take that into consideration, but it seems to me like they could have stepped their aggression up a little bit and at least tried to grab her other arm first. If they try a few other less intense things and she still is resisting then kick it up.

EDIT: I just went back and watched the video again. Fast forward to about the 3:40 mark. She is talking/arguing with one cop. The other cop comes up behind her and grabs her left arm and handcuffs it. The first cop grabs her right arm. They have control of her. She doesn't appear to be fighting them, but she is still running her mouth. That is when the cop who has her left arm grabs her by the hair and slams her into the desk.

To me she was not a threat to them. They had her under control and the level of aggression that was used was not needed.

just got off the phone with her we are getting married :1orglaugh j/k but the case is over. the cops being fired instead of suspended is huge for her. it didnt start till the assholes hung up the phone.

kane 06-08-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19660241)
just got off the phone with her we are getting married :1orglaugh j/k but the case is over. the cops being fired instead of suspended is huge for her. it didnt start till the assholes hung up the phone.

Yeah, when the department fired the cops involved that was basically them admitting guilt. They will likely settle with her out of court, but it won't be cheap.

So now the city gets the expense of hiring and potentially training two new officers and they have the expense of legal council in the lawsuit plus whatever they are going to end up paying her and all of this came about because she had an unpaid fine of $100.

CAHEK 06-08-2013 12:54 PM

I laughed my ass off when that stupid cop went flying! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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