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georgeyw 06-24-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20135809)
Where are your vegetables? Spaghetti sauce doesn't count. :) Seriously add some leafy greens to your daily routine. I've been steaming bok choi and putting a fried egg on top for breakfast and it's lovely. Try to add: spinach, cauliflower, broccoli, bok choi, kale as your daily veggie. Don't fear the veg!

Your exercise looks fine, but just remember that you work out to maintain fitness/muscle. The only way to lose weight consistently is through changing the diet/intake. GIGO applies here. :)

Good luck with everything!

Thanks Elli

I cook roasts / casseroles etc so all the vegies you can think of in those meals.

I tend to add in leafy greens for my lunch and everynight is not pasta night, that was just me using today as an example.

Tomorrow - brekky / lunch are the same - dinner is chicken drumstick casserole that i cooked on the weekend - onion / potato / carrot / parsnip / celery and a bit of pumpkin & brown rice.

In summer, i tend to eat far more fruit during the day too - apples / oranges / pears - winter (now) not so much as it isn't appealing at all.

I like to cook up big on the weekends and portion it out, freeze and heat it up during the week. Cooking takes up so much time, even the preparation does.

datingfactory.xxx 06-24-2014 10:16 PM

I have hired a personal trainer 3 days per week the next 3 months and I have quit all alcoholdrinking for the rest of the year.
Expect to see major results by the end of this summer.
Today is my third week of training and I feel much better already.
I will start a diet but not today, not sure what diet to go for? Maybe 5:2

Phoenix 06-24-2014 10:18 PM

I am still working out. Took almost a month off when i went to China. Now i am back on the horse. Feels good to have the strength back. Diet has improved a lot. I can see the improvements in my face and my gut.
I have a long road though because i still drink a little too often and when i do, i always end up eating a bunch of crap.

bronco67 06-25-2014 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datingfactory.xxx (Post 20135944)
I have hired a personal trainer 3 days per week the next 3 months and I have quit all alcoholdrinking for the rest of the year.
Expect to see major results by the end of this summer.
Today is my third week of training and I feel much better already.
I will start a diet but not today, not sure what diet to go for? Maybe 5:2

Don't "diet".

Just keep away from processed foods and try not to go over you maintenance calories. Diets can't last...and when they do inevitably stop, you'll lose the progress you made. I would go with a new "eating lifestyle" that involves common sense, lots of water(lots) and an occasional cheat to keep from going crazy.

Personally, I would save the money from the trainer and educate myself -- most of those guys don't know shit, as I've seen from watching them in my gym. Making some 200 pound girl do situps...fucking ridiculous. Unless you like spending money for the motivation.

This stuff isn't difficult, and all that's needed is some common sense and willpower. But if you're in a bad spot now, don't think you're going to see major results by the end of summer, except for lost money to a trainer. Like Choopa said earlier, slow and steady wins.

Choopa Phil 06-25-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20135705)
Hey, none taken at all, I am hopeless with researching foods - hate it with a passion.



wow - you eat a hell of a lot!!

Your food bill each week must be enormous.

I do have the fish oil / multi and only other thing i have is whey protein.

So many questions about food, how about I keep it simple, if that is possible.

Where should I start? Eat more? More of what - how do balance proteins/fats/carbs? I am like a child with this kind of thing - hopeless - love eating, hate how complex it can become (seems complex when you are on the outside looking in).

I understand you do large amounts of weights, so how did you arrive at your diet? Worked it out yoruself, sought advice? Just learnt over the years? The whole balance / what is in each food - makes my head explode.

Goals :

I also am not looking to gain size, if anything just tone up a bit. I figure I do enough exercise and actually enjoy being fit ( I was a smoke 2 years ago and 20kg heavier ).


You cant "tone" a muscle you can however become more "toned" by leaning out. Or you can add mass to grow the muscle, maturing it, and making it more defined. Toning up is adding muscle and getting leaner at the same time or as i like to call a "Recomp" or Recomposition. Burn some belly fat, add some mass, bodyfat percentage goes down, scale goes up! :)

Ive been training for almost 7 years and didnt really learn the ins and outs of nutrition up until about 3 years ago (low and behold these past 3 years are where I made the most progress). Honestly if you legitimately do not have a clue...hire someone but not from your gym. Hire a professional nutritionist or meal prep coach...a session will be about $75-150 and they will TEACH you everything you need to know and maybe even work with you for a couple of months to tweak and hone in our your diet. You cant just plug a bunch of numbers into a calculator to get to an end result. Everyone's body is different and will respond different to different diet types and different caloric intakes. The key to looking a certain way year round is consistency. I have not deviated from the diet above for over a year and am within single digit bodyfat percentages.

A good tool is myfitnesspal just to keep track of and log your calories. In not a big fan of calories in vs calories out arguement as I have burned fat while in a caloric surplus. It is possible to burn fat while still eating in excess...meal timing is key

brassmonkey 06-25-2014 09:56 AM

ill pay some strippers to exercise for me :) that kool?

Elli 06-25-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20135852)
Thanks Elli

I cook roasts / casseroles etc so all the vegies you can think of in those meals.

I tend to add in leafy greens for my lunch and everynight is not pasta night, that was just me using today as an example.

Tomorrow - brekky / lunch are the same - dinner is chicken drumstick casserole that i cooked on the weekend - onion / potato / carrot / parsnip / celery and a bit of pumpkin & brown rice.

In summer, i tend to eat far more fruit during the day too - apples / oranges / pears - winter (now) not so much as it isn't appealing at all.

I like to cook up big on the weekends and portion it out, freeze and heat it up during the week. Cooking takes up so much time, even the preparation does.

Good to hear that you're eating a bit better, but those veggies you listed are all roots except for the celery. You still aren't taking in any leafy greens. :) Try steaming a pot of broccoli and stirring it up with some cream cheese when it's done. Delish and quick n' easy!

Choopa Phil 06-25-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20136839)
Good to hear that you're eating a bit better, but those veggies you listed are all roots except for the celery. You still aren't taking in any leafy greens. :) Try steaming a pot of broccoli and stirring it up with some cream cheese when it's done. Delish and quick n' easy!

You just took something healthy and absolutely destroyed any nutritional benefits by adding cream cheese :1orglaugh. A good way to get your fruit/veggies in is blending. Got myself a vitamix and love making smoothies with it.

Elli 06-25-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20136845)
You just took something healthy and absolutely destroyed any nutritional benefits by adding cream cheese :1orglaugh. A good way to get your fruit/veggies in is blending. Got myself a vitamix and love making smoothies with it.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I see absolutely nothing wrong with some natural dairy fats and proteins being added to healthy vegetables.

What is with people wanting to blend or puree all their veggies these days? Does nobody just grab a handful of celery stalks or make a salad anymore? I've been sauteeing bok choi for breakfast all week and topping it off with a fried egg over easy. Soooo good!

bronco67 06-25-2014 03:03 PM

Salads barely count as nutrition when compared to kale, broccoli, spinach, etc.

Also, if you're going to blend, use frozen because (supposedly) veggies that sit on a shelf waiting to be bought are losing nutrients -- while bagged veggies have the nutrients flash frozen to keep for a long time.

chaze 06-25-2014 05:05 PM

It really starts with diet, eat better and you will have more energy and want to move. Good luck everyone! :thumbsup

theS2O 06-25-2014 05:49 PM

Hitting the gym 4 times a week. Back to boxing now twice a week. I run twice a week too.

Elli 06-25-2014 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20137059)
Salads barely count as nutrition when compared to kale, broccoli, spinach, etc.

Also, if you're going to blend, use frozen because (supposedly) veggies that sit on a shelf waiting to be bought are losing nutrients -- while bagged veggies have the nutrients flash frozen to keep for a long time.

Yes, the leafy greens are very nutrient dense. But you could always make salads out of baby spinach, avocado, sunflower seeds, and peppers. :)

iampink 06-25-2014 06:39 PM

For those that exercise hard what are your thoughts on smoking a cigar?

First I'd like to say - I'm an ex-marine. I'm looking at 54yrs old soon. I'm 6'3" 225lbs. Run 15-20mi per week. I do a century bike ride each Sunday. I lift free weights 4-5 days/week. Right now all of this in the Florida summer heat, even lifting (no air conditioning in the gym).

Thanks to a clean, no processed food diet, I cut my weight down from 255lbs. Large part of the cut was to make it easier on my aging body/injuries for the running/biking.

Now back to the cigars (If you're still reading). I cut down to 1 cigar a day or every other day to help with the boredom/stress of sitting at the computer working 7 days a week averaging 10hrs a day.

Yes, I know smoking is bad, but any thoughts on cigars and working out? Yes, I can say Arnold and Sly smoke cigars.

What do you do to help with boredom/stress of working?

bronco67 06-25-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iampink (Post 20137340)
For those that exercise hard what are your thoughts on smoking a cigar?

First I'd like to say - I'm an ex-marine. I'm looking at 54yrs old soon. I'm 6'3" 225lbs. Run 15-20mi per week. I do a century bike ride each Sunday. I lift free weights 4-5 days/week. Right now all of this in the Florida summer heat, even lifting (no air conditioning in the gym).

Thanks to a clean, no processed food diet, I cut my weight down from 255lbs. Large part of the cut was to make it easier on my aging body/injuries for the running/biking.

Now back to the cigars (If you're still reading). I cut down to 1 cigar a day or every other day to help with the boredom/stress of sitting at the computer working 7 days a week averaging 10hrs a day.

Yes, I know smoking is bad, but any thoughts on cigars and working out? Yes, I can say Arnold and Sly smoke cigars.

What do you do to help with boredom/stress of working?

Don't stop doing what you love totally or you'll go nuts. I love a joint and a glass of jack Daniels here and there...it's my psychological release valve.

georgeyw 06-26-2014 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20136610)
You cant "tone" a muscle you can however become more "toned" by leaning out. Or you can add mass to grow the muscle, maturing it, and making it more defined. Toning up is adding muscle and getting leaner at the same time or as i like to call a "Recomp" or Recomposition. Burn some belly fat, add some mass, bodyfat percentage goes down, scale goes up! :)

Ive been training for almost 7 years and didnt really learn the ins and outs of nutrition up until about 3 years ago (low and behold these past 3 years are where I made the most progress). Honestly if you legitimately do not have a clue...hire someone but not from your gym. Hire a professional nutritionist or meal prep coach...a session will be about $75-150 and they will TEACH you everything you need to know and maybe even work with you for a couple of months to tweak and hone in our your diet. You cant just plug a bunch of numbers into a calculator to get to an end result. Everyone's body is different and will respond different to different diet types and different caloric intakes. The key to looking a certain way year round is consistency. I have not deviated from the diet above for over a year and am within single digit bodyfat percentages.

A good tool is myfitnesspal just to keep track of and log your calories. In not a big fan of calories in vs calories out arguement as I have burned fat while in a caloric surplus. It is possible to burn fat while still eating in excess...meal timing is key

Thanks for taking the time to reply Phil.

I understand with re to *tone* - my thoughts were - get toned as in lose a few kilos.

I'll take your advice and seek out a nutritionist to get a better handle on what to eat. I do remember a friend did this a few years ago and was given a monthly eating chart with cheat days in it and he had huge weight loss over a 12 month period.

Also a big congrats for being able to discipline yourself like that, under 10% body fat is impressive - what percentage body fat did your abs begin to show and also how do you measure or get your bodyfat measured?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iampink (Post 20137340)
For those that exercise hard what are your thoughts on smoking a cigar?

First I'd like to say - I'm an ex-marine. I'm looking at 54yrs old soon. I'm 6'3" 225lbs. Run 15-20mi per week. I do a century bike ride each Sunday. I lift free weights 4-5 days/week. Right now all of this in the Florida summer heat, even lifting (no air conditioning in the gym).

Thanks to a clean, no processed food diet, I cut my weight down from 255lbs. Large part of the cut was to make it easier on my aging body/injuries for the running/biking.

Now back to the cigars (If you're still reading). I cut down to 1 cigar a day or every other day to help with the boredom/stress of sitting at the computer working 7 days a week averaging 10hrs a day.

Yes, I know smoking is bad, but any thoughts on cigars and working out? Yes, I can say Arnold and Sly smoke cigars.

What do you do to help with boredom/stress of working?

Well, I'm not an expert like the others, however I was a heavy smoker about 2 years ago (pack a day plus) and now love to have a cigar here and there. I'd probably smoke one 2 or 3 times a week and like to try different cigars as a treat.

I run as much if not more than you each week and it has very little effect on my running if any, nothing noticeable, so keep on doing what you enjoy!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20137341)
Don't stop doing what you love totally or you'll go nuts. I love a joint and a glass of jack Daniels here and there...it's my psychological release valve.

Totally agree - :thumbsup

Choopa Phil 06-26-2014 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20137056)
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I see absolutely nothing wrong with some natural dairy fats and proteins being added to healthy vegetables.

What is with people wanting to blend or puree all their veggies these days? Does nobody just grab a handful of celery stalks or make a salad anymore? I've been sauteeing bok choi for breakfast all week and topping it off with a fried egg over easy. Soooo good!

Not a big fan or dairy or cheese personally. Look at the source of where its coming from. Unless its made from raw milk I want nothing to do with it :). Have a look at my diet I have plenty of veggies throughout the day, probably more than most. I see nothing wrong with blending or making a shake, it saves time, is convenient, and im getting in all my essential nutrients. I eat quite a lot so the cooking, weighing, and meal prep takes time. Last thing I want to do is be cooking and cleaning any more than I already do :1orglaugh

Elli 06-26-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20137828)
Not a big fan or dairy or cheese personally. Look at the source of where its coming from. Unless its made from raw milk I want nothing to do with it :). Have a look at my diet I have plenty of veggies throughout the day, probably more than most. I see nothing wrong with blending or making a shake, it saves time, is convenient, and im getting in all my essential nutrients. I eat quite a lot so the cooking, weighing, and meal prep takes time. Last thing I want to do is be cooking and cleaning any more than I already do :1orglaugh

True!:) But I love to cook, so the prep is half the fun for me. Eating so much in smoothie form doesn't really appeal to me, but I do understand it's time saving.

I've researched a lot into the raw milk issue, and decided that Canadian milk is clean enough for me. I make my own yogurt out of milk with no additives, and I buy hormone-free cheeses.

Choopa Phil 06-26-2014 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20138108)
True!:) But I love to cook, so the prep is half the fun for me. Eating so much in smoothie form doesn't really appeal to me, but I do understand it's time saving.

I've researched a lot into the raw milk issue, and decided that Canadian milk is clean enough for me. I make my own yogurt out of milk with no additives, and I buy hormone-free cheeses.


I love to cook too. But cleaning, cooking 20 lbs of meat a week, and weighting is a job within itself. Between my GF and I we eat a combined total of 21Lbs of chicken/turkey a week. Just to put it into perspective for you. Get up for work at 7, get home at 6, gym, home at 8 meal prep, rest, repeat. Mind you thats not including my breakfast's either so even more cooking in the AM if no oats are prepped in advance

bronco67 06-26-2014 10:40 AM

Get some some ground bison (all protein, no fat) and make an omelet with it. It's a yummy muscle meal.

bronco67 06-26-2014 10:42 AM

Anyone ever use NO Explode? I've used it in the past, and switched to Bullnox for a while.

I just started another cycle recently, and my workout pumps have been off the charts -- and the energy levels seem to get better the longer the workout lasts. I was looking yoked in the locker room mirror.

When you look at yourself pumped, do you think "ok, in a few months I want to look like this on my off days".

Choopa Phil 06-26-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20138151)
Anyone ever use NO Explode? I've used it in the past, and switched to Bullnox for a while.

I just started another cycle recently, and my workout pumps have been off the charts -- and the energy levels seem to get better the longer the workout lasts. I was looking yoked in the locker room mirror.

No Xplode caused me some bad gastro issues. On the rare occasion I do use preworkout I prefer MusclePharm Assault...has aminos, creatine, and caffeine. If you really want skin tearing pumps..pop 1/2 a viagra and a caffeine pill preworkout. :thumbsup

scuba steve 06-26-2014 11:25 AM

doing half iron man. no weight lifting required ;)

datingfactory.xxx 06-26-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20136161)
Don't "diet".

Just keep away from processed foods and try not to go over you maintenance calories. Diets can't last...and when they do inevitably stop, you'll lose the progress you made. I would go with a new "eating lifestyle" that involves common sense, lots of water(lots) and an occasional cheat to keep from going crazy.

Personally, I would save the money from the trainer and educate myself -- most of those guys don't know shit, as I've seen from watching them in my gym. Making some 200 pound girl do situps...fucking ridiculous. Unless you like spending money for the motivation.

This stuff isn't difficult, and all that's needed is some common sense and willpower. But if you're in a bad spot now, don't think you're going to see major results by the end of summer, except for lost money to a trainer. Like Choopa said earlier, slow and steady wins.

Ok sounds good, I hate diets :)
What I did when I hired my PT was to check out the hottest and fittest female trainer on the gym and said that she was the one to get me in shape.
This helps me get motivated to go to the gym and I know I will always do my best just because she is a hot girl!
She is really serious about me getting fit so I am always crawling from the gym.
But it feels just great anyway.
I was thinking I will need a personal trainer the first three months at least otherwise I will loose interest in two weeks just as usual.
Then when I start to get in shape maybe I can motivate myself to keep going on more than now?!

MaxCandy 06-27-2014 04:09 AM

did a 3km swim, feel like a million bucks

Elli 06-27-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20138113)
I love to cook too. But cleaning, cooking 20 lbs of meat a week, and weighting is a job within itself. Between my GF and I we eat a combined total of 21Lbs of chicken/turkey a week. Just to put it into perspective for you. Get up for work at 7, get home at 6, gym, home at 8 meal prep, rest, repeat. Mind you thats not including my breakfast's either so even more cooking in the AM if no oats are prepped in advance

That sounds crazy busy! Good for you for being so dedicated!

Choopa Phil 06-27-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20139359)
That sounds crazy busy! Good for you for being so dedicated!

It is busy, its hectic, and it cuts into having a "social-life" to some degree ONLY if you let it. I wouldnt have it any other way :thumbsup

bronco67 06-29-2014 08:47 AM

I saw something in the gym yesterday I've never seen. There was an old dude who was doing Bruce Lee axe kicks between his squat sets. Then he topped it by doing nunchucks between flat bench sets. And he was actually pretty good with the nunchucks.

has anyone seen anything weirder than that while working out?

Rochard 06-29-2014 08:55 AM

Done.

Every morning I run, play basketball, and every day - usually at night - I ride my bike.

Today is Sunday, and before 9am I ran and played basketball. I won't ride tonight because I have plans today, but I spent most of my day at the local water park so I'll get in some exercise. Yesterday I did 12 miles on the bike and it kicked my ass - mostly because I'm used to flat terrain and this was hilly.

I topped out at 246 two months ago, this weekend I am 235.

Rochard 06-29-2014 08:56 AM

Done.

Every morning I run, play basketball, and every day - usually at night - I ride my bike.

Today is Sunday, and before 9am I ran and played basketball. I won't ride tonight because I have plans today, but I spent most of my day at the local water park so I'll get in some exercise. Yesterday I did 12 miles on the bike and it kicked my ass - mostly because I'm used to flat terrain and this was hilly.

I topped out at 246 two months ago, this weekend I am 235.

DerekMister33 07-02-2014 08:23 PM

I went for a very long bike ride along the sea wall.. Was amazing!!!

MaxCandy 07-11-2014 09:10 AM

had a great 3km swim today.

Elli 07-11-2014 10:53 AM

Haven't done anything today, but hope to get back in my kayak again tonight.

Phoenix 08-30-2015 07:59 PM

Just wanted to bump this thread after an awesome workout.
Back and Triceps today. I am finally able to do some pullups. Wide grip pullups.

Hope to be able to increase those and add it into my regular routine as a warm up.

PornSEO 08-30-2015 08:44 PM

I lost around 40 pounds in 4 months. But I can't continue because of a serious motorbike accident last week which will keep me grounded for atleast 2-3 months. :(

Rochard 08-30-2015 09:20 PM

I biked forty miles today. I am down to 206 lbs, down from a high of 251 lbs.

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Phoenix 08-30-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PornSEO (Post 20565625)
I lost around 40 pounds in 4 months. But I can't continue because of a serious motorbike accident last week which will keep me grounded for atleast 2-3 months. :(

Serious motorbike accident...needing 3 months to repair...sounds like you made out alright :)

Phoenix 08-30-2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20565648)
I biked forty miles today. I am down to 206 lbs, down from a high of 251 lbs.

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7f&oe=56772A7D

40 miles sounds like a lot. I doubt I could do it.
Congrats

MaxCandy 10-03-2018 12:44 PM

8KM Walk . 2KM swim

MaxCandy 05-15-2019 07:21 AM

Ok, so I lost 50 lbs, in last 14 months, now its time to keep it off


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