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Due 06-06-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19657381)
What's so stupid about this B.S. is anyone with half a brain knows to use disposable phones when conducting nefarious activities so once again the hunt for terrorists is nothing more than a snoop job on everyday Americans. I'm sure this is just a trial run for the new datacenter.

disposable phones doesn't make a huge difference if ALL lines are being monitored. Any phone can always be tracked back to a location. Unless you as well as the person you are calling is replacing the phone each time it will be traceable. Even if you both change phone numbers each time it can be traced by the location if you are calling someone on a regular basis from the same place.
Until they start looking for you then you are nothing but a number, using this number they can pretty much track you back for as far as they if they stored the data

eipstudios 06-06-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19658374)
why is this news?

they reported this in 2006:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6058346-7.html

AT&T whistleblower claims to document illegal NSA surveillance

April 6, 2006 12:26 AM PDT

This is not news? You knew this was happening?
Secret program gives NSA, FBI backdoor access to Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft data


http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/440...t-others-prism

The US National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been harvesting data such as audio, video, photographs, emails, and documents from the internal servers of nine major technology companies, according to a leaked 41-slide security presentation obtained by The Washington Post and The Guardian. According to The Washington Post, the program's slides were provided by a "career intelligence officer" that had "firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities," and wished to expose the programs "gross intrusion on privacy."

The program, codenamed PRISM, is considered highly classified and has never been made public before. The list of companies involved are the who's who of Silicon Valley: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Dropbox, though not yet an official part of the program, is said to be joining it soon. These companies have all willingly participated in the program, says the Post.

According to the leaked presentation, the program has been in action since 2007, and is considered the biggest contributor to the daily briefings given to the President, providing data in 1,477 articles last year alone. Allegedly, nearly one in seven intelligence reports from the NSA contains data from the PRISM program. The NSA has the ability to pull any sort of data it likes from these companies, but it claims that it does not try to collect it all. The PRISM program goes above and beyond the existing laws that state companies must comply with government requests for data, as it gives the NSA direct access to each company's servers ? essentially letting the NSA do as it pleases. The program was initiated to overcome what the NSA saw as constraints within the existing FISA warrant program that did not allow the agency to make us of the "home-field advantage" provided by having most of the internet's biggest companies on US soil.

"The who's who of Silicon Valley are involved in the NSA's PRISM program"

Microsoft was the first company to bow to the government's wishes and join the PRISM program in 2007, while Apple held out for five years before agreeing. Though Google and Facebook are a part of PRISM, Twitter has not yet joined. Apparently, the only members of Congress that knew about PRISM's existence were bound by oath not to speak of it publicly. In a statement provided to both The Washington Post and The Guardian, Google denied that the government had any sort of backdoor access to its systems:

"Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'backdoor' into our systems, but Google does not have a 'backdoor' for the government to access private user data."

The US National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been harvesting data such as audio, video, photographs, emails, and documents from the internal servers of nine major technology companies, according to a leaked 41-slide security presentation obtained by The Washington Post and The Guardian. According to The Washington Post, the program's slides were provided by a "career intelligence officer" that had "firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities," and wished to expose the programs "gross intrusion on privacy."

The program, codenamed PRISM, is considered highly classified and has never been made public before. The list of companies involved are the who's who of Silicon Valley: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Dropbox, though not yet an official part of the program, is said to be joining it soon. These companies have all willingly participated in the program, says the Post.

According to the leaked presentation, the program has been in action since 2007, and is considered the biggest contributor to the daily briefings given to the President, providing data in 1,477 articles last year alone. Allegedly, nearly one in seven intelligence reports from the NSA contains data from the PRISM program. The NSA has the ability to pull any sort of data it likes from these companies, but it claims that it does not try to collect it all. The PRISM program goes above and beyond the existing laws that state companies must comply with government requests for data, as it gives the NSA direct access to each company's servers ? essentially letting the NSA do as it pleases. The program was initiated to overcome what the NSA saw as constraints within the existing FISA warrant program that did not allow the agency to make us of the "home-field advantage" provided by having most of the internet's biggest companies on US soil.

"The who's who of Silicon Valley are involved in the NSA's PRISM program"

Microsoft was the first company to bow to the government's wishes and join the PRISM program in 2007, while Apple held out for five years before agreeing. Though Google and Facebook are a part of PRISM, Twitter has not yet joined. Apparently, the only members of Congress that knew about PRISM's existence were bound by oath not to speak of it publicly. In a statement provided to both The Washington Post and The Guardian, Google denied that the government had any sort of backdoor access to its systems:

"Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'backdoor' into our systems, but Google does not have a 'backdoor' for the government to access private user data."

brassmonkey 06-06-2013 06:21 PM

why is it backdoor access instead of just access?? :helpme

John-ACWM 06-07-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FingerPrinter (Post 19657411)

:1orglaugh

CDSmith 06-07-2013 09:28 AM

Once, in a long distance phone conversation with a USA-based webmaster, I was describing a certain model saying "she's so dirty", followed by "she's the bomb". Unbeknownst to me gov't monitoring software picked up on "dirty bomb", and for the next week there was a suspicious van with the name and logo of some local plumbing company written on the side parked out front of my house.

My neighbors said they had a drain backup problem in their basement and were getting a sump pump put in, but I knew what was really going on.

Damn FBI. Even in Canada, they can get to you.

_Richard_ 06-07-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eipstudios (Post 19658391)
This is not news? You knew this was happening?
Secret program gives NSA, FBI backdoor access to Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft data


http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/440...t-others-prism

i posted a link of an article about it back from 2006

eipstudios 06-07-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19659263)
i posted a link of an article about it back from 2006

So..... Are you FBI? You have to tell me.

_Richard_ 06-07-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by eipstudios (Post 19659291)
So..... Are you FBI? You have to tell me.

http://i.imgur.com/j7Ysb6y.jpg

crockett 06-07-2013 09:51 AM

Say thanks to the patriot act!

alias 06-07-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FingerPrinter (Post 19657411)

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...anpartyvan.jpg

JFK 06-07-2013 10:03 AM

Fitty.........Invasions of privacy , Thanks Big Brother ! :321GFY :321GFY

eipstudios 06-07-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19659293)

What does that mean?????:(:(:(:(:(


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