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And let's be real - to all the people who are saying "the girls enjoy it!" - the vast majority of girls who do porn aren't there because they enjoy being slapped around by some guy's cock, verbally abused, throat-fucked after a little ATM, choked till they almost puke, then verbally abused some more while tears run down their cheeks. They're there because *they need some quick money* for whatever reason(s), many of them have some pretty fucked up stories in one way or another and often the porn gig is just another way for men to treat them like garbage. Also, the cock-stomping and male humilation stuff - the main audience for that is other sub guys who want to be humiliated themselves and get off on it vicariously. Whereas the main audience of gonzo female throat-fucking/humiliation/whatever vids are guys getting off on women being treated like shit. There's no analogy there. |
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do you think these producers are filling a void? or creating one? they wouldn't keep producing it if it didn't sell. |
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You are a narrow minded sexually repressed person (at least that's what your comment leads me to believe) |
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If you mean do I understand the difference between fiction and reality...DUH...that was the point of my post. |
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suggests that you feel these videos are staged, or at best, 'fantasy' |
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As for being "treated like shit"...again, that's just an ignorant statement. Have you ever been to a "dungeon" for instance? I'm not talking about Kink.Com's porn set. I'm talking about a true swingers bondage party. Nobody is filming anything there. And I'm sure that with your vanilla sex mind you would walk in and declare that everyone is treating everyone else "like shit". In reality they are doing EXACTLY what they enjoy sexually. I've seen men strapped up in the air like Jesus on the cross with their petite, tiny schoolteacher wife beating the hell out of them with a whip until he cums all over the place. I've seen little housewives tied down and gangbanged while their husband throat fucked her until she gagged. And then later that night see her excitedly talking about coming back the next week for the "party". You guys don't have a fucking clue about sex. |
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I wish you had a better grasp of the English language cause half the time I can barely figure out what you are posting about. Can anybody else decipher what exactly Richard is attempting to communicate here? EDIT: FIFTY sick fucks who don't have "normal" sex |
defend this shit again.
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You can stick to a "politically correct product" or a within the laws product ... |
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As to the dick stomping analogy, I think it's pretty valid. I'm sure there are plenty of WOMEN who get off to watching guys be humiliated and throat fucked and gagged by a beastly hermaphrodite or a chick with a strap on.. And I'm sure there are plenty of women who enjoy watching other women tied up and ripped apart. |
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I think the more interesting question is - who, exactly watches this stuff and why?
As for who does it and why they do, the answer is easy. Whenever there is a need for something and an opportunity to make money, someone will, sooner rather than later, fill the vacuum. It's the same with performers, and each of them makes his or her own calculus of risk, harm, pain, ego, etc. and compares it with the presumed gain, money, fame, attention, etc. and makes a decision. All those decisions are personal to the people involved, but there will always be somebody who is willing to do just about anything. If anybody has demographics about the target audiences of hard/weird/strange/ultrarough/deviant or interracial porn, they keep the numbers to themselves. But I've got a hunch that these same people would be anxious to see King Kong or his closest and most massive relative from the zoo impale Faye Ray or any modern-day equivalent of a tiny, petite, helpless female. Because those things are pretty tough to film and distribute on the Internet, they seek out the material that brings them closest to that experience. Hard porn performs a valuable service to society at large. It takes an enormous amount of rage and hostility and insecurity towards women and safely deposits it at the bottom of a trash can when the experience is over. And that's why sexual assault rates keep dropping in step with broadband internet access. |
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You sir, make no sense. Not even sure if you know what the subject of the thread is. |
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do you know if it's staged or not. simple question. |
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What bothers me more is not the trend toward more "degrading" hardcore porn but the trend in more webmasters throwing up banners depicting the most violent porn thinking that the nastier the better will get them a signup. More often than not I'm surfing for some softcore METART type porn and out of nowhere I'm bombarded with banners of abused 18 year olds. Some things you just can't unsee.
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As they say in pro wrestling: EVERYTHING is a "work". So yeah, I don't believe it's "real". Of course I don't know that for a fact...but since the girl signed a model release and got paid... Now a "simple question" for you...why were you so hellbent on asking me that? What does it have to do with the people I was addressing in this thread who seem so smug and knowledgeable about other people's sexuality? Troll much? :1orglaugh |
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Go to an adult modeling site - post the following ad - see what happens...
"Wanted - Submissive sluts wanted for degrading videos." That ad will get many times more replies than this one... "Wanted - Softcore models for solo scenes." So, who do you blame for this? My studio used to be the stop-over waiting room, between my sites and Duke's sites. The girls would look forward to the harder scenes they were about to do AFTER my silly softcore stuff. Some of my models used to masturbate to Facial Abuse, and they told me that they were happiest when the girls cried. Everyone is excited and/or disgusted by different stuff. Personally I gag every time I see a person suck on a foot. That grosses me out. Who the fuck knows what people want. It's a crazy world we live in. |
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As for what I "don't want to hear"...you're telling me to listen to you and Joe tell me about sex. That's like telling a Professor to listen to two freshmen. :1orglaugh |
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So claiming women "love" eating feces, as you did, is not derogatory or generalizing, whereas suggesting they're perhaps doing it for reasons other than 'loving it', as I did, is derogatory? You are out of your mind. |
helterskelter808 you are acting dumb now.
I'm outta here. You guys keep discussing human sexuality. You are obviously so experienced and have so much knowledge to share. I'm going to dinner on the strip and then go see the show "The Million Dollar Quartet" at Harrahs. As for the rest of you: Please go out and get laid. lol |
That video was pretty hard to watch. It's shitty that somebody filmed that (no pun intended) and even shittier that they edited it and put it online. That girl obviously wasn't acting and was truly miserable. Ugh. Some people have no heart.
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Maybe so, but that would play into the Indian argument -- girls get raped on buses with steel pipes because men watch porn -- that's total bullshit. |
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Brother I have no fucking idea what you are saying. My post is pretty damn clear...most of the people on GFY are nerdy, fat fucks with no idea about sexuality and what people do in their private lives. And from reading the asinine statements about how they think it's "real" and the girl is "miserable", etc. they have obviously no idea how showbiz works. Some of the people in this thread are completely and totally what carnies call "marks". They probably believe that HHH really hits people with a sledgehammer in the WWE ring too. And in those Rambo movies...that shit was all real too. Jesus Christ! I can't believe what I'm reading on here. People...the girl in that video signed a fucking model release AND got paid. She wasn't miserable. And it's NOT real. Good God! But I'm tired of reading this shit. Believe whatever some of you want to believe. Who cares? And if you want to bitch about it...then bitch at Duke Skywalker. It's a Duke Dollars scene right? I'll leave you prudes who believe this kind of stuff is "real" with a KinkyDollars video for you to chew on: http://xpornxporn.com/videos/big-tit...ted-13644.html |
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