where did you come up with this $13m figure? outer space? both companies were private at the time.

Oh look you found 1 link to assist you in denial. Should I delve into the Washington Post's history?

it is so absolutely bizarre with you nutters. here is one conspiracy we can all agree on, prism, well, all of us except rochard :-), nevertheless, you choose to blow that off, in favor of a brand new ct, yet the first one was so important just a while ago.

ct nutters are not about the theory, they are only about diverting the topic around to pay attention to themselves.

funny how this prism thing is now 'beyond a doubt', eh?

have we been arguing with a group of people that think so little of themselves, they are unable to question anything till tv tells em it's ok?

i.. thought it was just a joke, but now im not so sure

no i dont want you to divert this thread to some bullshit about the wash post.

duh. i already mentioned your motive, derailing threads.


for once, stay on topic. if there were any opportunity better than this thread for you to do that, i have yet to see it.

yo uare really taking this topic as an opportunity to jab like this?

insane. you know that is completely retarded right? you go around syaing americans take it up the ass while we drink beer and watch tv yet when we get do finally show some concern and are learning more and such, you point your finger.

obvious troll is so very obvious.

no meth today?

It was actually 12.7 million in seed money. Do you not understand what seed money is?



The topic is about a ex-CIA agent leaking domestic spying efforts. You are arguing with me about whom the CIA has funded assisting them in those efforts. Having reading comprehension problems?

lolz. you think that's a jab at me? hahahahahahaha


dude, who is the one that told you i've done crystal?


it was me.


me.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

well, i've been suckered in. sorry to the op and those trying to have a serious chat about it.

:-(

meanwhile, while richard is focused on usa

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/report-...ance-1.1319096

This is really bizarre. For once the conspiracy freaks really have something to get excited about. IT REALLY IS THE CIA !!!

But instead they have to make some even wilder accusations.

So not only have govt's used major digital corps to harvest data - they actually created those entities !

Oh and by the way :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I am laughing at the juxtaposition of peeps getting worked up about the govt using the interwebs to harvest data for national security reasons, but blind to the fact that the entities that they have used are harvesting so much more for their own murky intentions.......

hahahahahahah

canadaians haven't even had a major terrorist attack and your government is going full-bore snooping on y'all.

meanhwhile, you continue with the attempted potshots here.

are we? you can laugh at whatever make believe bullshit you want

but there is what a 'current dialogue is', and what we 'know'

currently, you're 12 years behind. keep laughing.

i went to review an app in the google playstore this weekend, when i tried, it said i needed to log in now to my google+ account, i messed up trying to reverse out of that and accidently instantly created a google+ account.

it took me quite a while to figure out how to disable that account. i like google, i can accept some of the lack of anon, but google cloud- no. google+ - no. facebook - no. twitter - business only.

richard your government is snooping on you with no justification whatsoever!!



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugglaugh:1org laugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and here you are!


jfc.

So the point I make has no merit ?

The guy deserves to get paid well for this.

50 years from now:

americans, why did you let your government monitor your shit? well, we had the 9/11 and fell for a strategy of surveillance and war.

canadians, why did you let your government monitor your shit? eh, we were too busy loling @ americans, eh.

12 years ago the people talking about this were conspiracy nutters. now it's 'look who tried to warn us', and you're still calling people conspiracy nutters.

i am no longer interested in trying to communicate with people who only communicate with TV

best of luck with what you discover 12 years from now.

You seem to be hell bent on turning seeding into creation.. Or are you just that stupid?



Edward Snowden: Republicans call for NSA whistleblower to be extradited

Politicians denounce whistleblower's actions while civil libertarians hail him as a courageous hero

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...edward-snowden

Are you saying you do not understand the point I made, that you disagree with it, or that you are simply ignoring it ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Still Laughing !

bwahahahhaha - you are such a loon. and this is a perfect example of how you loons distort and amplify your wacked out beliefs.

Loon #1 asserted that Facebook received seed money from In-Q-Tel implying that the CIA was/is directly involved in Facebook. Of course the evidence that actually does exist shows nothing but an indirect connection whereby Facebook received funding from a venture capital firm that has a board member who was chairman of the board of an association that the CEO of In-Q-Tel was a member of.

As for the CIA's involvement with Google, the truth again is mundane and self-explanatory and we all know that the MUNDANE is the conspiracy loon's Kryptonite - you people are powerless pissants with a sad need to see the world as a vast conspiracy from a comic book movie where you are the crusaders for truth and justice through whose tireless efforts to wake up the comatose masses will save the world from evil.

Now we will wait for the kooks to run around the Internet gathering more shreds of more conspiracies just as flimsy in their vain attempt to build their case when all it does it make you all look like bigger fools and make things harder for those who really do care about these issues.

The irony of the kook phenomena is that the powers that be will end up using these idiots to advance their agendas, the culmination of the self fulfilling kook prophecy you clowns are unaware of - self awareness is never a strong point of those who spend their lives pointing fingers at others.

while you point fingers at me?

seriously? do you guys think before typing?

maybe the ct nutters are embarrassed re: the fact they completely missed an actual real conspiracy while they were focused on 7wtc.


so they resort to their tried and true logic: dodge & deflect.


lolzocoptermobilerollercoaster

this coming from you, the guy who just brought up my drug use from 15+ years ago in an attempt to discredit and insult me for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

got it.

maybe he thought since the u.s.a. has gone to hell china must be still a whole load of a lot better.

it wasn't an attempt.

ok, what was it?

Here's the cliff notes version for you...



US Citizen: The government is totally over-reaching. Having no privacy is not what Americans should consider freedom.

Government: Hey, arrest that guy! He's a traitor!



...you're welcome.

It seems to me this is blown completely out of proportion. The way the media is selling this is that the US Government had direct access to track everyone at any time for any reason. The companies involved are saying that the US Government does not have "direct access" to their servers. The US government is telling us this has nothing to do with Americans, and in any case warrants need to be issued - which is done by a panel of judges appointed by Congress?

So if warrants are required, and are issued by judges appointed by Congress, and not for Americans but for terrorists in other countries.... Seems like a non story to me.

warrants?

pfft.

it already is happening. warrants are not being used. the data is already being recorded.

you have every ceo/president such as zuckerberg & flag saying they were not aware the gov was able to and is in fact tapping that shit.

think about that.

youare entitled to your opinion. but the warrantless tapping is in effect.

you guys are drone striking americans

what due process exists?

I was just getting ready to make a comment; but I think you like dealing with these loonies. :1orglaugh

interesting angle on this


http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digi...personal_data/


http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intel...ret-workforce/


so how much of our shit is up for sale?

:1orglaugh

:upsidedow

without wehateporn though it's too easy.

I saw this on the news lol

you find it funny that people are strong enough to stand up and protect our civil rights knowing that it could easily cost him his life?


Yeah, this was in the news weeks before he blew the whistle, I am sure he wanted to loose his job and put his life on the line so he could get his name in the paper.

couldnt agree more, some American must have forgotten what their great forefathers were fighting and lost their lives for.

guys can always find an excuse or justification for being disloyal and dishonest :2 cents:

yep, that about sums it up.