Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19665841)

U guys are all delusional to even have a conversation about people getting killed

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19665678)

I disagree... You can take better approaches to things... For example, Notch, the creator of the ever so popular game Minecraft, he's combatted piracy by being cool about the whole thing.. I remember not long ago there was a huge story about him in the media because some kid pirated the game and felt bad afterwords and tweeted at him saying if he could afford it he would have bought it that the game was worth it... What did Notch do? He found out where the kid lived and beat his parents knee caps in threatening to kill them infront of him unless he uninstalled the game.... Nah I'm kidding.. He sent the kid a free key to the game...

As a content guy, yeah you're gonna deal with tons of people stealing your stuff, just like I do as a software developer... The best action I believe is to not be an asshole... Contact the tubes, most of them now have content partnerships... Sure they may have gotten to their size stealing content, but that's in the past, you can't do anything about that... You know what you can do? You can combat their users from uploading your pirated stuff by working WITH them to add your promo content to their sites and just keep an eye out on your stuff being uploaded too and just send legit DMCA's.

Sure that route sounds hard to maintain because you'll be sending DMCA's up the ass every day to keep your videos removed, but they will remove them... They aren't some kid in their mothers basement running a site on Dreamhost... They're legit businesses who have people who will work with you.

Good luck and I hope you can put your angers away and see the big picture and prosper.

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 19666047)

Easy to say when you're not a content owner that has his property stolen and given away on a daily basis.

Businesses have been decimated by these thieves.

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19666435)

Right, because only content owners get their stuff stolen. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 19667270)

I highly doubt you've lost millions.

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19667310)

I highly doubt you have either.

Originally Posted by jack-exploitedbabysitters (Post 19667414)

hahah that is the exploitedteens guy i bet he has lost some change due to piracy for sure

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 19666455)

Tubes stealing your shit is here to stay. Piracy is here to stay. It's impossible to stop at this point. The sooner you realize it and do what you can to work around it to earn what you can, the better. There is a significantly higher percentage of people that feel no need to pay for porn than there's ever been - get used to it and focus on the people that will pay for it. Or make your own tube and scrum for ad revenue.

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19665573)

you paying for content removal services?

Have you tried countering with your own uploaded videos? 10 minutes etc?

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19667310)

I highly doubt you have either.

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19668360)

We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19668689)

if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19669007)

That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19669024)

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19669024)

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19669030)

bull shit :1orglaugh they have things called links and watermarks :1orglaugh no way media will die unless we're all dead. if you had flv id push your girls :2 cents:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19669035)

and kill the business 5x faster genius.

Originally Posted by PhoneSexKing (Post 19668675)

Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...

Originally Posted by jack-exploitedbabysitters (Post 19665512)

No bullshiting i think the only way to stop tube theft is sadly a guy loses it and shoots up a couple tube owners at a convention. Court system won't work but i bet violence will.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19669052)

Every time I send out a take-down notice it is specifically because they are using my content without my watermark, and without a return link back to me. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19669007)

That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19669024)

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19668360)

We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.

Originally Posted by PhoneSexKing (Post 19668675)

Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19669021)

man im not going to school you on the pirates do your homework. your clueless on internet crime :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19669087)

Yeah, good luck getting that "loop hole plugged" because Google widely relies on it, therefore they will make sure it's not changed.http://i.imgur.com/jx7m2vc.jpg

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19669183)

They will eventually do it to themselves, it's just a matter of time.

Youtube actively monitors uploaded content and do a pretty good job of it unlike adult tube owners. Try to upload adult content to Youtube and see how long it stays up. They would suspend the account of anyone doing that yet you can send an adult tube countless DMCA's and they would still allow the "uploader" to continue without so much as a warning.

Try to upload a non-adult related video to an adult tube and see how long that stays up if it even gets posted in the first place.

The system is a joke. Can you imagine if that's how the rest of society dealt with theft? Imagine a world where there was no punishment for theft and if you get caught stealing you just have to give the product back.

Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19665631)

Yeah because a multi-million dollar business is just gonna be like "well fuck, Tom is dead, time to close up shop." :upsidedow