A warrant is issued for not mowing your lawn how FUCKING STUPID is that.

remind me never to move to the United Sham of America!

its a misdemeanor and if its toxic waste can go up to a felony

Bullshit, they don't bust in the door and drop flash grenades for a grass cutting arrest.

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Please show me in the Constitution where the government has this 'right'. Rights are to protect people against govt abuse, NOT the other way around. Ever heard of the 4th Amendment?


It is not against the law to not open the door for the police or to be uncooperative. What country do you live in? China?

I'd be the most upset about the cunts walking around in my house with their dirty shoes on.

Ya, around here police are never involved in something like that. If you refuse to comply, the municipality just hires someone to do it and adds the cost of the job to the person's property taxes.

simple solution: spray the entire lawn with agent orange and be done with it!

They treated her like shit and used profanity, sure.
But that doesn't change the fact that they didn't start acting like shit until she closed the
door in their face. Just understand that closing the door was fucking stupid.

But not stupid enough, because when the cop pushed it open again she stopped the door and said "Excuse me??!!"
But not stupid enough yet because the cop then says "leave the door open and go get your ID NOW!" and
she stands there and says "You know, I don't even see a name tag".

The cop then says "I don't give shit what you see, go get your ID".

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She and the cops say a few more words, then another cops says :

"Listen, I'm going to hook you up in about 30 seconds if you don't get it".


Now if you counted, they asked her 3 times to GO get her ID. Keyword "GO"!

That's 3 times after she closed the door on them.

The cops would not have come inside the house if she had opened the door back up and just went to get her ID.

Now go forward in the video to 2:02 thru 2:12.

Instead of getting her ID she is asking the cop why he is searching her place.

Cop : Just give us your ID....
She : EXCUSE ME??!
Cop : where is your ID?

Damn! Deezze C0ps is haavin a hello time gittin dat eye D.

A decent cop would become extremely suspicious at this point bro.


Now lets get real :

The cops did not lay a finger on her and they did their job correctly; yet people are going to complain that they sucked.

But then you go in another thread and the cops rip out a females hair and part of her scalp,
slam her face on a counter breaking her teeth out then drag her by one leg on the ground
as if she was a carcass and people are defending that.
And that happened after her right to make a phone call was cut off.

That's real fucked up.

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then you would have some felonies :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

only if they test the grass or lack thereof!
or are you saying its illegal to not have grass in your front yard?

I don't recall the cops showing the woman a warrant therefore they acted unlawfully by entering her dwelling!

the agent orange is illegal. you would never see the outside again. any hoo im going to spray my plants and take a nap. :)

:1orglaugh don't use agent O then!!

i would settle for using a proprietary herbicide then, available over the counter!

Your law degree from the internet is not working correctly.

Once she opened that door and her name was similar to the name they were looking for, warrant or not,
and she didn't have ID, they had all the "probable cause" in the world to hook her up.

Think about this way :

A bank robbery goes down.
Suspect runs down my block.
Police start knocking on doors immediately asking if anyone saw the suspect.
I open my door and the cops say I look a lot like the suspect.
In fact, I am the suspect, I simply ran home with the money, but I don't tell them that.
Cops ask for my ID, I say I can't find it, lost it.
The cops says, ok, that's cool have a nice day.

Bullshit right?

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I'm pretty confident that I am speed on how local police should serve a warrant. I've never had police serve a warrant on me.

Are they required to hand you a search warrant BEFORE entering? Come to think of it, I don't think they are - Usually they just scream "We have a search warrant" and physically destroy the door on their way in. Once the premises are secure is when they should hand over the physical warrant.

They had an arrest warrant and reason to believe that the person was in the house. The police do not knock on the door, ask to see the person they have the warrant for allowing him to hide or arm himself or climb out a window. They enter the house and secure the premises. It's not a police state or something new; This how they've been doing it ever since I can remember.

I did think it was rude that one of the first words out of the cop's mouth was "I don't give a shit what you think".

However, I'm guessing this surely wasn't the first time they had dealt with this woman. I'm guessing this woman has a long history with the cops and that they had been there before.

Well, you know how these discussions go. People divide into their usual "camps".
They are either pro cop or anti cop. And they don't really care to look at what happened
in detail and see the truth.

:2 cents:

There is no question or mystery that something is wrong with people (old clowns) like Rochard/baddog... no reason to explain.

Yeah, we should all live on what ifs, to me, this shows how ignorant american police force really is.

that's a felony warrant. after they secure the house/dwelling they give it to you. this was a misdemeanor no guns were un holstered.

wait, so because she is possibly unaware that closing the door on them would cause them to think she may return with a gun is grounds to act like a cunt right from that point? Instead of saying "you need to leave the door open so we see you aren't returning with a weapon"? I wouldn't have thought of that scenario (returning with a weapon) until it was mentioned here - an explanation that takes 5 seconds is preferable to acting like a cunt? Sorry, I don't buy that, and never will.

They may have been doing their job 'correctly', but that's a fucked up 'correctness'.

We need to start applying common sense here. Police knocked on the door, identified themselves as police officers, and told her they had a warrant.

A police state is when they bust down the door without warning, without a warrant, and kidnap someone who hasn't committed a crime - not when they knock on the door with a legal warrant.

lets stick to the law :) when you say you have a warrant it must be served. they did not ask if the person on the warrant lived there. :helpme also they entered the dwelling and touched that camera :Oh crap they had no right to enter. thank god they didnt see the camera until after they entered. did you see them hand her any paper?

when the video starts, it's clear she has already been talking to those cops. sure enough, from her interview.
so why couldn't the cops have popped down the street to get the landlord? this is a town of 5000 people. it's not la la




i don't believe this is accurate. :)

i am very much interested in this behavior and did some snooping a while back. it's not a matter of obedience and not questioning authority. it's deer in the headlights syndrom.

what leads me to believe that is in looking into all of this i came across an interview of anders brevik. in it, he said the most suprising part of all of the killings was how people just stood there and waited for him to shoot them. often times they stood there right in front of him while he reloaded. no weapon at the ready.

they waited for him to reload and shoot them.

i don't see that as obedience. i see that as paralisis in a bizarre event. anyhoo, that's my take on it. fascinating aspect of human behavior though. very curious.

ok im done playing gfy lawyer arrest the police. any volunteers?

Dude, when you close the door and they knock it back open, it's time to wake the fuck up no matter what you think the law is. If the cops are wrong then escalating a wrong situation does not yield results that favor you.

So if they tell her that they want the door open so she will not run or get a gun does she
then think ok, that's cool or does she then start talking about her rights since they have no reason to believe she has a gun and she's an honest person and would never try to run away and quite frankly this is insulting officer and therefore I'm going to refuse your request.

They asked her to go get her ID 4 times before they came in the door.

Cops are paid by the hour bitch, hurry up and get your ID because there's a homicide down the block.

The problem with cops is that they encounter 15 people like her all day and then late on the shift when they've "had it up to here" and just minutes to get off work, a black guy is speeding down the California freeway.

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what does that mean?

although it is always best to not play gfy attorney at laws.


nevertheless, assuming i know wtf you meant. i never said anything about legalities. i'm talking about getting the fucking job done. it's 1 sqaure mile burrough. there are several different ways to get this job done, the least effective is the way they did it.


that's why we are discussing it. if they did it the right way, we would not have this thread.

that's not a legal matter.

It would be easier to stick to the law if you posted the law that says that.

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I love how in America the police mentality is don't let her go back in alone she might get a gun. The rest of the world wouldn't give a fuck - they don't have a gun problem

It doesn't work that way. When police have a warrant, they don't knock on the door and accept the word of the first person they talk to that what they are looking for isn't there. They have a warrant, and they are coming in to look. Period.

this is what happens in la la when the cops accidently try to *arrest* the wrong person.

2 little old ladies driving a truck mistaken for 6'5" black chris dorner.

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index...&size=400x1000

bullshit if it doesn';t. iv'e seen it firsthand work that way.

myself.

it was for deliquent property taxes. jeez the cops go full breech over back taxes?

i'm not ok with that because there were several other ways to handle this. there was simply no reason for this entire episode at all. so for it to get out of hand makes the situation even worse.

they did not do due deligence, they were not professional, she got out of hand in reaction to that, they got out of hand in reaction to that.

meanwhile, the tax offender is watching tele a few blocks away.


yeah, this all makes fucking sense.

call the police and ask :1orglaugh he had the paper in his hand didnt give it to her. have fun working out her case :1orglaugh im done

Jeez you are a fucking idiot, from the ARTICLE:

?They kept asking me if I was Roben Edwards and I said ?no, she does not live her, I live here alone but she is my landlady and lives down that way.?

You DO NOT know the law.

It means he may finally be getting a clue that he is wrong this time . . . one can hope.

OP forgot to include "Guess the country" in thread title.

FAIL

No, it was not for delinquent property taxes. Failure to Maintain property.

Really? So when police come to my door asking for me I can just say "Oh, I'm his brother, he moved to Hawaii" and they'll just accept that?

The police came looking for the landlord next door a few years back. Turns out he didn't pay his mortgage for a long long time. Their search was so detailed they knocked on my door and questioned me.