they should have done it long ago.

I get it in Spain too.. Must be a paypal europe thing.

You sound like an advertisement for Epoch, or it's worst nightmare.

Either you are leaking info before it's official release OR you are promoting Epoch as having "just completely blew away the competition" by undefined means :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

How can be a 'leak' if it is live on sites? - That's a flood - Also it is pretty big news if there is now a way to accept PayPal on adult...

WMs have been wanting it for years.....

Epoch is a great company, they always try to work with their Webmasters and clients.

I'm sure when they are up and at the office in Santa Monica, LA they will let us know what's going on.

Even if these stays,i dont see how this will make things much different since you will still pay 15% fee regardless does user coming from paypal or other type.In my experience things like this are possible when one payment processes make a custom deal with another which normally is not available,for example cashx and moneybookers had similar deal.But still this will definitely increase number of sales.

N, just select France or some other EU country in the appropriate field and you'll see it. At least I see it and I have the US IP.

On the other hand, PayPal without the USA is almost useless IMHO :2 cents:

A journey of 1000 steps begin with first step :)

Now why exactly? And please don't call me dumbass. I should let you lick my asshole for that anti-social behaviour of yours. Who the fuck do you think you are to talk like that? Cocksucker!

I wonder if you could advertise it to a customer on your own Join page giving them instructions on how to access the form with the PayPal option. You know, use another IP, then choose France or whatever, be prepared to speak French etc. LOL

Yeah. I'm watching this thread, too.


Carry on...

Epoch have confirmed it's in testing. That's all the info they'd give me for now. Wonder how this develops :)

No I'm not leaking... I was very suprised when I found out paypal on my joinform and dropped it here on gfy. That's all. If it was a secret not to be leaked... I'm sorry, but how can you stop other people from noticing a new payment option on their join-forms? Not possible! It would have been noticed sooner or later by someone else!

So... what is to be called stupid? Me noticing a new payment option on my forms or
the illusion that you can put a new payment option on a form without people noticing it?
Now tell me... how am i stupid?

Regarding promoting Epoch... I told it many times here... After all the patetic ongoing whining about ccbill here... I am still highly suprised why many people dont use epoch as their primary processor; why many affiliates still hestitate to push epoch-sites... etc. I don't have one single issue or complaint about epoch. Not one! Are there still people alive that think ccbill is the only company that pays on time?:1orglaugh

Seems like there's only 1 dumbass in this thread!

Oih!

I hadn't even posted yet ! :upsidedow

This thread needs some poo, it could certainly turn out to be the shit if it's true!

:warning Check your ass could smell it half a world away

You are stupid for not being more slick in pimping what you define as Epochs "new payment option."

See above response :pimp

i like anal leakage... :2 cents:

According to this thread so far Epoch is testing without notifying you or Struggle4Bucks in advance. You contacted Epoch around 1:26AM PST and they confirmed PayPal as a payment method is in testing.

The way webmasters are notified of Epoch testing of PayPal is through a GFY post from some duchebag in Amsterdam?

Usually select beta testers are involved to work out bugs before going live & before going live sponsors & affiliates are notified in advance. Good business.

Something is fishy here, and my dick is clean, so will be interesting to see how things unfold. It's 3am my time I'm sure things will progress here as I regenerate for the next 10 hours or so.

carry on . . .

I don't see this lasting long now on grapevine.

My ass is clean so I guess you're smelling you're own upper lip:321GFY

Go pregnant some girl and have babies so you can tell your children what and what not to do. You don't tell me what, when and how i post stuff. You sound like Adolf Hitler!

You have absolutely no reason for calling me a doucebag. Go suck a cock; swallow it and please choke!

yes, because terms, like laws, are valid in reverse :1orglaugh
Also - is epoch strictly adult processor? Couldn't be they added this for mainstream processing and its still a bug that it is available or adult? Just random guess :)

can't wait to read more news about this.

I would like to believe that this is because of the thread by cryptocurrencies, but it is more likely because of that:

http://falkvinge.net/2012/11/20/euro...es-regulation/

I would be extremely skeptical in accepting Paypal for my site, unless they specifically stated in their TOS that they process transactions for adult related sites. And even then, I most likely would not use them. What happens when PayPal decides in 6 months to send out an email blast, letting everyone know that processing for adult sites isn't in their best interest? What happens to all of your new members that are set up for automatic recurring subscriptions through PayPal? I mean, you could send out a mass email blast, letting everyone know that they'd better turn around and sign back up with your site through another billing company, but to me that's pretty cheesy and it also looks very unprofessional.

I'll continue using CCBILL. They have been working very well for my site for 8 years now, and I don't think they will be sending out any emails anytime soon stating that they no longer accept transactions for adult sites. With PayPal, this a situation that could very easily and realistically take place, and I am not willing to take that chance. And especially given their history, in terms of processing transactions for adult related products and/or adult related services, why in the world would anyone else?

And of course, I was referring to using them as an alternative processor. I would never use them as a primary, under any conditions.

Thanks to letting me know I am accepting paypal! Checked my Epoch form for europe:

Secure Purchase TubeCamgirl.com 15 Tip Credits - One Time Charge
Epoch.com, the merchant of record, is the payment processor for MCAMNETBV (www.tubecamgirl.com)
Today's charge is: ?11.83

Credit Card
PayPal <- *********** !!!!!!!!!!!!
DIRECTebanking
UKash

Made a quick check for countries showing Paypal:

andorra, austria, belgium, cyprus, denmark, finland, france, germany, gibraltar, luxembourgh, greece, greenland, ireland, iceland, isle of man, israel, italy, liechstestein, malta, monaco, netherlands, norway, portugal, romania, san marino, slovenia, spain, sweden, switzerland, turkey, united kingdom, vatican,

This is all europe (includes Swiss, Norway, Romania) + Israel, Turkey.

Are you using pro proxy service ?

This is what i continue to say since years, refusing porn is a discremination as long as the law is respected

As i said,if epoch and paypal made a contract which says how they can offer it in their system,then that is black and white despise what is stated in their TOS.Also if this will continue to work,i doubt they will allow individually to use paypal,one thing is allowing that to experienced cc processing company and second to paysite owner.

is this real its a good news for me :)

I switched the countries from the drop down list selector in the epoch form.

The myfreecams epoch form does not list paypal. So Epoch enabled paypal just to someone. May we do a poll, who got paypal in own join form, and who not? :)

Also my join forms became different style, larger layout with bigger icons, nice, but also small gray texts with (unreadable) price billed, at bottom. Really how anyone can find how much he is being billed in this layout? I heard of this new form before, but in my site it appeared in middle of the day today (I got the paypal in old form too, so it is unrelated with paypal). I suggest Epoch to make the text (with amount billed) bigger and darker, in those new join forms.

Old form, amount billed in top, visible:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/e1bf3be64...g5zjo1_500.jpg

New form, amount billed (and description of service) at bottom, hidden:
http://www.myimg.us/images/06.13.13/35508.jpg

Is it just Epoch EU progs possibly?...

We've been paying our affiliates with PayPal for years, by far my favorite payout method. Only occasionally we have issues with getting the guys outside the US their money.

I love Paypal.

I notice that the form has changed again the last few hours - Looks a lot nicer than it did this morning...

We are EU, Mfc is USA. Paypal could be an EU merchant only feature for EU users.
Is there any Epoch non-eu sponsor (for example US, CA merchant) who gets paypal listed in own form for eu users?

"Bitcoin is better." - Bitcoin_F

Struggle4Bucks he said your leaking :helpme you been eating some olean? :helpme :1orglaugh j/k

I emailed my account rep when I read this post yesterday and he hasn't gotten back to me.

I haven't updated my Epoch forms in a while and it was on my list of things to do this month. This will get me more motivated to do so.

Thanks for the heads up.

Dave

hahaha olean is the shit.. or it makes shit.. well.. shit.. I forgot... shit.

PayPal emailed and informed

I think PayPal know and authorised this, at least the european PayPal office(s).
Question: if PayPal will confirm this is ok, why Epoch it can, and others don't?
An answer it could be: Epoch knows the adult market, its merchants, risks, canceling procedures, checks the compliance, so PayPal can trust the Epoch merchants are all nice and handled. While instead, PayPal directly would be a little lost in dealing with adult merchants and pimps like us, or customers doing chargebacks because fapping went wrong. It could be like a delegation contracting, just supposing here.
It could be aliens.

This is awesome...bring it to the US!

The biggest issue with PayPal would be: what if the history repeats itself and at some point they pull the plug again? Weren't they 'adult friendly' back in the day only to make a 180 degree turn?

Yeah, when they merged with EBay they shut all adult down instantly.

Millions of dollars lost in rebills.

Great, lets bring the 2002 year back.