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LightscapeMedia

06-15-2013 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 19671710)

I contacted them through that email [email protected] and here is their reply:

Dear XXXXXX XXXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting PayPal. We appreciate the fact that you are
looking to use PayPal to send and receive payments for your
transactions. However, you would not be able to use PayPal on your
website.

Please refer to:
- Website/s: http://africanblacklesbians.com/

Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or
receive payments for certain sexually oriented materials or services or
for items that could be considered obscene.

The complete Acceptable Use Policy can be found at the following URL:
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?c...locale.x=en_US

To learn more about the Acceptable Use Policy, please refer to our Help
Center page here:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/helpweb?cmd=_help

You can find additional information and tips about buying and selling
safely on our Business Resource Center at
https://www.paypal-businesscenter.co...-your-business.

If you have any questions, please contact the PayPal Brand Risk
Management Department at [email protected].

Sincerely,
Heidy
PayPal, Brand Risk Management
PayPal, an eBay Company
--------------------------------------------------
Copyright ? ####-#### PayPal. All rights reserved.

Maybe I should ask Heidy to confirm this with Brent? :1orglaugh

That's the problem with Paypal.. "Certain sexually oriented materials or services", and they never actually define it in their TOS.

However, I know they are aware that I'm selling physical DVD's, and they've also confirmed via email that's acceptable.

Konda

06-15-2013 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19671646)

But can someone answer me this.. I don't see what all the excitement is about Epoch landing Paypal.. Probably the only reason I like Paypal as an option is to avoid Visa/MC fees. If you have to go through epoch to use paypal, you're still going to have to pay those fees.

There are a lot of people that are not comfortable joining porn sites with their CC (because they don't trust porn sites with their CC data), but would not mind joining if they could do it trough PayPal (because they trust PayPal and they know their card info won't be in the hand of some porn site operator). I think adult sites can get quite some extra sales with PayPal.

Of course it would be better if you could accept PayPal directly without an extra party (Epoch) involved, but since PayPal doesn't allow that, this is the only solution. It's worth paying a fee to be able to make extra sales that you previously could not make.

adultmobile

06-15-2013 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19671715)

That's the problem with Paypal.. "Certain sexually oriented materials or services", and they never actually define it in their TOS.

They said "obscene".
So what about softcore, art sites? Can anyone with erotica site try mailing paypal.

lagcam

06-15-2013 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19671745)

They said "obscene".
So what about softcore, art sites? Can anyone with erotica site try mailing paypal.

In the UK in the 60s and 70s, "obscene" was defined as whatever gave the judge an erection.

adultmobile

06-15-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 19671751)

In the UK in the 60s and 70s, "obscene" was defined as whatever gave the judge an erection.

This make sense. So are paypal compliance guys using same method.

LightscapeMedia

06-15-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19671745)

They said "obscene".
So what about softcore, art sites? Can anyone with erotica site try mailing paypal.

I can't answer that. All I can say is they are aware of the items I'm selling (most of it fairly tame compared to what else is out there, but still fucking and sucking nonetheless), and they've said that as long as it's not downloadable or electronically delivered it's fine.

AmeliaG

06-15-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19667672)

In the country drop down box, select Netherlands and you'll see the PayPal option.

Not seeing PayPal, just Sofort, when I select Netherlands from the USA.

Fenris Wolf

06-15-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19672449)

Not seeing PayPal, just Sofort, when I select Netherlands from the USA.

It looks like they reverted back to the standard join forms and not the ones that you can select paypal as a payment option.

Crazy Enough

06-16-2013 01:22 AM

PayPal accepts adult? Yes, but only Erotica books without images. They don't allow images or videos.

I have to say that I've sent an email to a big paysite network asking to pay their membership via PayPal because I had some cash standing there, and they have sent their "corporate PayPal", so I was able to sign up on a porn site paying via PayPal.

I guess PayPal is a manual option only for those who ask for it. After all, they will never know, right?

prezzz

06-16-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19672449)

Not seeing PayPal, just Sofort, when I select Netherlands from the USA.

I'm in Poland and now I see PayPal option available for any country I choose in the dropdown field (checking via the StrugglingBabes.com join form).

Looks like Epoch made the PayPal selection available based on GeoIP for the actual user location as opposed to the manual country selection that was active before.

Roald

06-16-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 19671646)

This......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19671727)

We ran a test selling credits through PayPal and saw a big increase in sales. Until they shut us down of course but that was calculated since I wanted to see the demand.

Really if PayPal starts allowing this all there will be a new stream of income coming in from people who want to stay more anonymous

Exciting news IMO :2 cents:

EddyTheDog

06-16-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Enough (Post 19672617)

Did you read the thread at all?....

donb	06-16-2013 11:36 AM

I run a non-nude fetish site so it is not exactly relevant, but in 2009 Paypal confirmed by email they will process payments for my subscriptions and DVDs.

Chosen

06-16-2013 12:03 PM

I wonder why we are still having old epoch form on our paysites, without paypal option for europe.
European company btw.

Konda

06-16-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chosen (Post 19673073)

I wonder why we are still having old epoch form on our paysites, without paypal option for europe.
European company btw.

Do you have cross sells on your join forms? Most of the alternate payment solution, including PayPal probably don't support cross sells.

adultmobile

06-16-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prezzz (Post 19672988)

Looks like Epoch made the PayPal selection available based on GeoIP for the actual user location as opposed to the manual country selection that was active before.

Perhaps to avoid the trick of USA/Canada people (or even site owner force parameter) switching to an Euro country to have Usa/Canada people pay with paypal. They still can do it with an euro proxy, but less practical.

NaughtyRob

06-16-2013 08:08 PM

I'll make a non-nude site and see what they say. If they say it's ok I'll process with PayPal for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donb (Post 19673045)

I run a non-nude fetish site so it is not exactly relevant, but in 2009 Paypal confirmed by email they will process payments for my subscriptions and DVDs.

Chosen

06-16-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19673460)

Do you have cross sells on your join forms? Most of the alternate payment solution, including PayPal probably don't support cross sells.

No, we don't have any crosssells.

x-rate

06-17-2013 06:03 AM

Here's the site that got approved and that I included the link in my initial contact to paypal to ask them how come they were allowed to do it:

http://www.chez-alyson.tv/abonnement...alyson-tv.html

It's in french so it's not a language barrier and this site got approved by paypal so....!

adultmobile

06-17-2013 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-rate (Post 19673923)

Here's the site that got approved and that I included the link in my initial contact to paypal to ask them how come they were allowed to do it:

http://www.chez-alyson.tv/abonnement...alyson-tv.html

I see a cock in join form next to PayPal logo. So what's going on?

x-rate

06-17-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19673933)

I see a cock in join form next to PayPal logo. So what's going on?

Go figure lol

I'm also wondering: if somebody join thru paypal via Epoch does it's the same discount rate and does the holdback apply? Otherwise I guess processing with paypal (if you can get in somehow) is a much better deal...

naughtylaura

06-18-2013 08:18 AM

We are now approved for paypal too :) As far as I'm aware, its for EU epoch clients, and shows up for EU customers :)

Klen	06-18-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naughtylaura (Post 19675727)

We are now approved for paypal too :) As far as I'm aware, its for EU epoch clients, and shows up for EU customers :)

Define "approved".As showed in epoch form,or direct deal with paypal ?

scarlettcontent

07-03-2013 01:03 AM

do paypal accept adult payments only though other processors like epoch? or can we now process adult sales directly with paypal?

andys862

07-03-2013 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19673933)

I see a cock in join form next to PayPal logo. So what's going on?

FWI, this Alyson is operating from Quebec, not from France.

Robbie

07-03-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19671727)

I'm sure that some people out there believe that a "porn site operator" gets their card info.

But it's not true. I've never seen a persons credit card number ever.

Visa and MasterCard only allow banks to process a credit card. Not a person. And especially not a porn guy. lol

But since you even seem to think that...then yes, it's obvious that a lot of people probably mistakenly thing that we can see their credit card numbers. Which is why you are right...PayPal is trusted more by people (even though they will shut down your account and take your money if you piss them off lol)

adultmobile

07-03-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19701065)

I'm sure that some people out there believe that a "porn site operator" gets their card info.

But it's not true. I've never seen a persons credit card number ever.

In fact those who got such an info, in past, banged cards in bad way, actually substantiating the fear for giving card to adult sites :(

Kafka

07-03-2013 04:15 PM

Why not sending money to your private PayPal account and after
receiving the money sending him the password.
ok, there is a delay but the surfer can pay via PayPal.

Works only if you are the site owner of course.

MatureKing

10-14-2014 08:17 AM

So accept

Naughty

10-14-2014 11:57 AM

Paypalis like Google. What Brent or Gary might accept on a tuesday, Rose or Mary will decline on thursday and send to John, who will shut your account on Friday because he wants to bang Rose on Saturday.

Shitty big corporations and they flakey rules.

Rochard

10-14-2014 03:00 PM

Years ago Paypal used to come to the shows, and wanted us to set up with them. This was before anyone had heard of them. Then one day they just dropped adult.

Very interesting indeed.

celandina

02-08-2015 07:12 AM

I think its time to bump this "puppy"....:2 cents:

JIBCONTENT

02-08-2015 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20386825)

I think its time to bump this "puppy"....:2 cents:

Why did you bump this? What's the latest?

celandina

02-08-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT (Post 20386914)

Why did you bump this? What's the latest?

Somebody please tell me. ! A lot of grief I got lately about this. Want somebody else to get yelled at :error :winkwink:

StinkyPink

02-08-2015 09:48 AM

The deal is that paypal does NOT accept payment for adult sites, however... they do allow epoch to accept the payment, with paypal hidden behind the curtain so to speak. So yes... if you are an epoch client.

Dating Port

02-08-2015 10:39 AM

https://epoch.com/paypal/

Now close this thread. :2 cents:

ilnjscb

02-08-2015 11:06 PM

Epoch has mitigated the risks for paypal, and is reaping the rewards.

Spunky

02-08-2015 11:30 PM

Rather would keep a separate account,due to past experience

CDSmith

02-09-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20253653)

Years ago Paypal used to come to the shows, and wanted us to set up with them. This was before anyone had heard of them. Then one day they just dropped adult.

Very interesting indeed.

Wasn't it right around the time they got bought out by Ebay or shortly thereafter? I recall this, that they were wanting our business for several years, then they got bigger and more widely known, and the second they thought they were "big enough" they immediately wanted to disassociate themselves from anything adult.

If I were the type that had sensitive feelings I'd have called them a pack of snivelling assholes for that.

This small gesture of a move back toward the riches of adult via Epoch isn't about goodwill of any kind, it's about money. Nice to see though.

I think I'll still live in fear of having any of my paying clients using an adult-related email to send payment though. Better to continue airing on the side of caution with this company.

adultmobile

02-09-2015 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyPink (Post 20386939)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20387426)

Epoch has mitigated the risks for paypal, and is reaping the rewards.

Corrent. I start seeing USA people pay with paypal via Epoch.

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