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dyna mo 06-21-2013 01:49 AM

those "eyewitness" accounts of twa800 were investigated so amazingly deep at that time. i recall seeing a lot about that.

combined with what we now know about the validiity of eyewitness testimony, i am not so sure, a small part of me wouldn't rule out some sort of foul play or subterfuge perhaps.

but tbh, there had better be some watershed level new info revealed because the research really really really does point to the electrical issue that caused the middle tank to explode.

as you prolly know, that very same issue happened 2 other times on 2 other identical 747s.

Captain Kawaii 06-21-2013 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19680329)
those "eyewitness" accounts of twa800 were investigated so amazingly deep at that time. i recall seeing a lot about that.

combined with what we now know about the validiity of eyewitness testimony, i am not so sure, a small part of me wouldn't rule out some sort of foul play or subterfuge perhaps.

but tbh, there had better be some watershed level new info revealed because the research really really really does point to the electrical issue that caused the middle tank to explode.

as you prolly know, that very same issue happened 2 other times on 2 other identical 747s.

I saw part of the twa800 documentary tonight, an eyewitness, a foreign national said, (paraphrased) The FBI agent interviewing me mentioned that he knew I had a permanent visa request in motion. he told me that if I want to see that visa approved, I should shut up and forget about what I think I saw.

US nationals were similarly pressured and attempts were made to discredit them. THE CIA went so far as to make a fake dramatization of the events the FEDS wanted told which major news blasted for days. That in itself is propaganda. CIA performing propaganda on US soil is illegal, per the FEDS, public doctrine anyway. :upsidedow

A whistleblower at the time gave a piece of cloth, part of a seat cushion, to CBS news. They had it tested and found particulates matching what might be expected coming from a missile traveling at high rate of speed. At the test site there was a confrontation. Within hours the FBI was at CBS news in NY demanding they turn over the cloth. CBS caved. CBS was owned by GE. GE was/is major defense contractor.

Normal sea SOP is for ships in the area to come to the aid of any ship or craft in distress. Instead, the naval ships in the area, conducting live fire drills were seen hauling ass in the opposite direction of the downed airplane at 30 knots.

There's watershed.

pimpmaster9000 06-21-2013 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19679494)
Their products do not yield more fruits or vegetables, and their products are LESS nutritious than the natural non-GMO varieties.

I actually grow vegetables and fruits commercially as a side project...in a lab or green house you are right...no doubt about it...in sterile conditions with no pests and with regular weather the GMO sucks...

but in the field it is another story...you see a 3rd world farmer you are dead or broke if your crop does not succeed...weeds and insects are problem that you simply can not imagine...





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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19679494)

Their genetically patented seeds are Round-Up resistant. Round-Up is a poison. Their technology allows "farmers" to use boatloads of Round-Up on the "crops" without killing the frankenfoods.

That poison is absorbed into the plants, and we eat it up.

:1orglaugh

there is something called a "karenz period" or in english a "Waiting period" for the pesticides to actually leave the plant clean...if you pick your crops before the karenz is over its not GMO-s fault or illuminati conspiracy...its plain stupidity and journalistic sensationalism...

most of the "GMO-ing" is done by natural seed selection anyway...we have a GMO corn institute next to our dirt track...

ilnjscb 06-21-2013 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19679441)
Well, as long as Bayer and Monsanto don't begin to partner on anything, maybe we will survive.

Oh shit, wait a minute...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0D30TR20130416

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 06-21-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19680387)
I saw part of the twa800 documentary tonight, an eyewitness, a foreign national said, (paraphrased) The FBI agent interviewing me mentioned that he knew I had a permanent visa request in motion. he told me that if I want to see that visa approved, I should shut up and forget about what I think I saw.

US nationals were similarly pressured and attempts were made to discredit them. THE CIA went so far as to make a fake dramatization of the events the FEDS wanted told which major news blasted for days. That in itself is propaganda. CIA performing propaganda on US soil is illegal, per the FEDS, public doctrine anyway. :upsidedow

A whistleblower at the time gave a piece of cloth, part of a seat cushion, to CBS news. They had it tested and found particulates matching what might be expected coming from a missile traveling at high rate of speed. At the test site there was a confrontation. Within hours the FBI was at CBS news in NY demanding they turn over the cloth. CBS caved. CBS was owned by GE. GE was/is major defense contractor.

Normal sea SOP is for ships in the area to come to the aid of any ship or craft in distress. Instead, the naval ships in the area, conducting live fire drills were seen hauling ass in the opposite direction of the downed airplane at 30 knots.

There's watershed.


not really watershed at all.

the fbi is in fact on record documenting those few molecules found on that fabric, it's in the public record of the investigation. so there is absolutely no reason for a foreign national to try and pervert this or to point to any part of the fbi investigation as suspect in this regard,

moreover, that 747 had 19,000 flights prior to flight 800, many of those being a troop transport for iraq, theteeny tiny bit of chemical could have come from any of those troop transports or any where.

butmost importantly, that was the only evidence found suggesting a missile- some molecules of chemical. there was no other evidence whatsoever that suggested a missile. none. and all evidence pointint to the overheated lines running through the middle gas tank.




again, i'm open but if all they have is trying to discredit the fbi on this, that's not going to do it/

BFT3K 06-21-2013 08:56 AM

This is what people were told to believe, just a few decades back...

http://www.eatnakedblog.com/wp-conte...013/04/DDT.jpg

Of course it was a total lie, but it wasn't until boatloads of people and animals payed the price.

Today's lies will be revealed, and the defenders of evil corporations will eat crow, as usual.

dyna mo 06-21-2013 09:00 AM

you don;t realize that is a marketing ad put out by the manufacturer in 1947?

before there was any evidence/research done on ddt? after which, it was banned?


1947. hindsight is 20-20

_Richard_ 06-21-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19679970)
"GMO" is a whole fucking area of science not a single product you can study and trial you dolt.. Guess what? Organic food gives you cancer too! Let's ban all organics because eating some of it can give you cancer.. Weee I like this black and white unthinking way of thinking.. It makes everything so simple! No room for critical thought and acceptance of nuances... Yay it's so much less effective than enacting legislation to ensure that each of the billion potential GMO organisms (some good, some inert, some bad) is tested, safe and identified to the consumer and that Monsanto can't control the EPA to ram unsafe things through or like in the recent Californian example, propagandise to prevent the GMO labeling proposition.... cause.. BALLUMINATI!

so now that you have ranted,

that study i am talking about is feeding rats over a two year period, Monsanto GMO foods.

This caused widespread cancer and tumours, in comparison to rats being fed non-gmo foods.

Then, you realize there has been NO long term studies on GMOs via Monsanto, other than one that caused massive cancer and tumours over a two year period.

But hey, im sure all these countries banning gmo grain, and russia threatening war, is all because of a few internet campaigns :upsidedow

BFT3K 06-21-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19680815)
you don;t realize that is a marketing ad put out by the manufacturer in 1947?

before there was any evidence/research done on ddt? after which, it was banned?

1947. hindsight is 20-20

DDT wasn't banned until 1972...

http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/ddt/01.html

This was 10 years AFTER it was identified as an environmental and health hazard, via studies and books like "Silent Spring"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring

dyna mo 06-21-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19680889)
DDT wasn't banned until 1972...

http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/ddt/01.html

This was 10 years AFTER it was identified as an environmental and health hazard, via studies and books like "Silent Spring"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Spring


yes and? shit takes a while, you know that right? do you think they were just milking that 10 years to infect us more and kill more bald eagles?

is that what you are saying?

BFT3K 06-21-2013 10:55 AM

http://2012patriot.files.wordpress.c...sheeple-1b.jpg

2012 06-21-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19681059)

they also make guinea pigs pigs

2012 06-21-2013 11:42 AM

http://i.imgur.com/7Gd4F2V.png

mikesinner 06-21-2013 11:51 AM

GMO foods are perfectly safe. Do you even know what you are talking about?

crockett 06-21-2013 01:17 PM

Anything we can do to help speed up the whole depopulation conspiracy? I hate waiting in long lines and having to hire cripples slows down my mojo.

dyna mo 06-21-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19681245)
Anything we can do to help speed up the whole depopulation conspiracy? I hate waiting in long lines and having to hire cripples slows down my mojo.

:1orglaugh

if you go to disney you can hire a wheelchair disabled person to cut the line for your group, no shit.

_Richard_ 06-21-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19681155)
GMO foods are perfectly safe. Do you even know what you are talking about?

oh? what 5+ year studies are you reading?

Captain Kawaii 06-21-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19681155)
GMO foods are perfectly safe. Do you even know what you are talking about?

For realz???????????? - Sorry dude, that is not correct intel.

Captain Kawaii 06-21-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19681424)
oh? what 5+ year studies are you reading?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 06-21-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19681141)

Thats a great graphic.

Si 06-21-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19681059)

Oh look, conspiracy nutter calling people sheep again, how original!

You don't follow anyone do you? Course not! You're really trying to change the world, sitting behind a keyboard, doing absolutely fuck all! Just like the rest of you quacktivists.

Blabbering and crying like a baby on a fucking porn forum of all places, isn't going to change anything is it? You're so concerned about the world, your first point of thought, is to "spread the word" on a forum where not very many people give a shit, and those that do, normally end up on ignore lists pretty quickly.

You carry on though. While you're busy looking for problems in the world, other people will be out there fixing them.

adult_text_links 06-21-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19680810)
This is what people were told to believe, just a few decades back...

http://www.eatnakedblog.com/wp-conte...013/04/DDT.jpg

Of course it was a total lie, but it wasn't until boatloads of people and animals payed the price.

Today's lies will be revealed, and the defenders of evil corporations will eat crow, as usual.

exactly!! you said it right

_Richard_ 06-21-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 19681500)
Oh look, conspiracy nutter calling people sheep again, how original!

You don't follow anyone do you? Course not! You're really trying to change the world, sitting behind a keyboard, doing absolutely fuck all! Just like the rest of you quacktivists.

Blabbering and crying like a baby on a fucking porn forum of all places, isn't going to change anything is it? You're so concerned about the world, your first point of thought, is to "spread the word" on a forum where not very many people give a shit, and those that do, normally end up on ignore lists pretty quickly.

You carry on though. While you're busy looking for problems in the world, other people will be out there fixing them.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

get out there.. save the world from itself.

oppoten 06-21-2013 07:19 PM

What was the question again, depopulation?

There are huge swathes of the world that are under-populated, Siberia for one. We just need to space things out a bit.

dyna mo 06-21-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19681681)
What was the question again, depopulation?

There are huge swathes of the world that are under-populated, Siberia for one. We just need to space things out a bit.

xcllnt idea :thumbsup

there are all those ghost cities in china- fill em up!

Si 06-21-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19681556)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

get out there.. save the world from itself.

You prove my point, what are you doing other than trying to get one over someone? Carry on spouting shit about how this, and that is wrong with the world.

You do nothing! You do the square root of fuck of all, about anything.

I don't give a solitary fuck what you think about the way the world is run, because you do nothing to try and improve it yourselves.

noshit 06-21-2013 07:44 PM

You can't argue with peeps on here about the 'crystal ball' plans of the globalists when they have absolutely no previous interest or knowledge foundation built for it.

People first have to educate themselves on the globalist agenda and realize that the anti-man, anti-civilization ruling class do not think like they do.

BFT3K 06-21-2013 10:07 PM



https://youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ

theking 06-21-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19678469)
http://www.illuminatiagenda.com/wp-c...ion-agenda.jpg

While the global elite construct underground bunkers, eat organic and hoard seeds in Arctic vaults; the global poor are being slowly starved thanks to high commodity prices and poisoned with genetically modified (GMO) food. Austerity measures aimed largely at the poor are being imposed on all the nations of the world. Weather events grow more deadly and brushfire wars more frequent. An AK-47 can be obtained for $49 in the markets of West Africa. The depopulation campaign of the inbred Illuminati bankers is accelerating.

Story continues here...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06...tion-agenda-2/

What say you?

Pigshit.

mikesinner 06-21-2013 10:28 PM

Funny thing is if we stopped using GMO foods over the next decade or so, most of the planet would starve. Technically we've been genetically modifying our food for a few hundred years.

In the last century we've been purposely selecting what genetics we want plants to have bu choosing which ones we let grow in consecutive generations. Maybe we have only been doing it in the lab in the past three decades but all we are really doing is speeding up a natural process.

When I read threads like this I have to weep for peoples stupidity on these subjects. Where is the science to back up your claims?

BFT3K 06-21-2013 10:43 PM



https://youtube.com/watch?v=1H9WZGKQeYg



https://youtube.com/watch?v=TivsXWWhrRg

john1975 06-22-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19678469)
http://www.illuminatiagenda.com/wp-c...ion-agenda.jpg

While the global elite construct underground bunkers, eat organic and hoard seeds in Arctic vaults; the global poor are being slowly starved thanks to high commodity prices and poisoned with genetically modified (GMO) food. Austerity measures aimed largely at the poor are being imposed on all the nations of the world. Weather events grow more deadly and brushfire wars more frequent. An AK-47 can be obtained for $49 in the markets of West Africa. The depopulation campaign of the inbred Illuminati bankers is accelerating.

Story continues here...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06...tion-agenda-2/

What say you?


all true..

you forgot to mention the FBI wasting half of our tax dollars....digging up all of earth....still lookin for Hoffa.

mikesinner 06-22-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19681832)

Asks for scientific research studies that prove your side, gets youtube videos. Good sign you are on gfy.

BFT3K 06-22-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19682350)
Asks for scientific research studies that prove your side, gets youtube videos. Good sign you are on gfy.

http://www.criigen.org/SiteEn/index.php

http://gmo.greens-efa.eu/gmo-authorisations-9932.html

BFT3K 06-23-2013 06:55 PM

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...09640993_n.jpg


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