Sorry, but that is completely untrue Tony. As a Libertarian, I thoroughly approve of liberals that are against drug laws, anti-war, and pro civil liberties, etc.... It's quite distressing to me that since Obama took office, liberals now seem fine with undeclared wars, drones killing children, and government spying on everyone and violating their 4th amendment rights in the name of "security". Where have the liberals gone? I guess as long a THEIR guy is doing these things, then it's all no problem.

However, it is rather illuminating that you mention that it comes from "Liberals". It seems that you must, at least on some level, agree that the Climate Change stuff is much more about politics, money and power, than it is about saving the planet. And since, like you noted, it's the "liberals" that are pushing this agenda, you are automatically ok with the move towards a world government in the name of "saving" the environment.


:2 cents:

Yes, and extreme record temperatures, both high and low, are being broken all the time all over the earth. And that is proof of exactly nothing.

And I never said that climate change doesn't exist. But citing a few abnormally hot days, or even a slight warming trend, in Alaska, or anywhere, as some sort of catastrophe caused by coal and oil is pretty ridiculous.

Ever hear George Carlin's routine on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4

yes, and there is also previous records for those cities etc etc etc

i know what denial and misdirection is

question, all the 'nothing to see here-ers' keep talking about previous records being set

but there seems to be no mention of the last time previous records were broken in at least 5 different cities at the same time

it's also been 'over a week', pressure doesn't seem to be letting up.. of course this must have happened before too.. just seems to be no reference to that.. at all.

So is a record being "broken in 5 different cities at the same time" some sort of threshold for an imminent catastrophe?

Either I fail to see your logic or you fail at logic. Broken temperature records are proof of absolutely nothing. Especially when those records only go back 150 years or so.

If people think warming is so bad and must be stopped at all costs they should at least consider the alternative:

If you guys just reed science papers about the climate, not ones about global warming, but the ones that talk about the straight facts.

you keep talking about history

show me when it happened before

within the past '150 years'

Okay, I think this is something along the lines of what you are looking for:

April 2013: Cold and snow wave grips the USA, nearly 10,000 cold and snow records set in the last six weeks


Anyways, restricting any analysis of climate change to the past 150 years is completely foolish. A few broken temperature "records" and swings of a degree up or down over a century does not equal real climate change. And in all past instances of real climate change warmer has always been more favourable to life on earth.

indeed.. you also get retarded 'scientists' etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core

these are much better

dude what is this site you keep citing?

'There is no corresponding anti-snowfall record.'

dafuq?

this guy knows weather works in a 'balance', not 'just gets warmer'

so if you have a system that is out of balance, that means everyhting is out of balance

the argument about cold tempatures/records, is an argument for climate change

isn't the entire site dedicated to there being no climate change?

'There is no corresponding anti-snowfall record.'

Pretty sure that means that there is no record for minimum snowfall. They are max records only.

That site is in no way dedicated to there being no climate change. Primarily it takes the skeptical view on human induced global warming and/or human induced climate change. It tries to provide a counter-point to alarmism and the politicization of climate science. It also tries to expose faulty science and claims made based on faulty methodology.

it has no mention of mars:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Mars

http://www.astronomy.com/sitecore/co...x?sc_l ang=en

so there is the proof you guys needed

have you thought about what it means in regards to natural warming cycles coupled with man-made pollution?