You want to degrade minorities on here, then lash back as a victim when people call you out on it? Be a man and deal with it! That woman has more sense then you've displayed so far :2 cents:

Well said! :thumbsup

No, they did not even address it.

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court on Wednesday left for dead California's same-sex marriage ban, Proposition 8, but the question of gay and lesbian couples' constitutional right to marry remains very much alive.

By a 5-4 vote, the justices held in Hollingsworth v. Perry that the traditional marriage activists who put Proposition 8 on California ballots in 2008 did not have the constitutional authority, or standing, to defend the law in federal courts after the state refused to appeal its loss at trial.

?We have never before upheld the standing of a private party to defend the constitutionality of a state statute when state officials have chosen not to,? Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. ?We decline to do so for the first time here.?

The judgement of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit was vacated and the case remanded with instructions to dismiss the appeal for lack of jurisdiction.

I believe what you are saying and honestly I really don't have that much interest in the whole gay situation. I just dropped into the threads to point out similar behaviors, the belief that everyone else is wrong and only 'they' hold the superior knowledge, in both the conservative and the gay lobby.

another point I'll make is I personally haven't heard or read the demeaning slanderous descriptors that the gay lobby uses to label the conservatives, and that certainly is my experience at GFY for having the audacity to disagree or point out another option, used by conservatives. I'm not saying that conservatives aren't doing this, only that I haven't seen the same level negative personality distortion coming from the group.

in my experience only liberals use 'you're stupid, disgusting, a loser, crazy etc.' as intellectual arguments to justify their stance or opinion. and I certainly see much of this at GFY.

however I'm sure since you have just pointed it out to me that if I were to search some low IQ areas of the web I would indeed find this conservative detritus.

being a father, grandfather, friend, business owner, producer, artist, fuck buddy and having a big ass cool dog keeps my pretty busy though. :2 cents:

this is an interesting point you have brought up:

seems like 'queer nation', gay pride and other homosexual organizations are working against this. everything I read about homosexuality is "I'm special, look at me" personally I don't believe pride is a personal label. I am proud of my daughter accomplishments, I am grateful for mine.

to me gay pride is a complete self aggrandizing statement with no validity. my feeling is if you are so grateful for being gay why must you always try and prove it to me? I have no dog in the fight... if it's that great go enjoy it in the privacy of your home

here read this out loud until you get it:

I'm sofa king we todd did

that should keep you busy for a while here on the oprah winfey forum :thumbsup

For those unclear on what the CA ruling means, there has been no appeal on the Constitutionality of Prop 8 due to lack of jurisdiction.

DOMA was not struck down. It was shown to not apply only to the couples who filed the suit. Everyone else still cannot get married.

I agree completely. I never understood ethnic pride. It seems like many different ethnic groups have pride parades, pride days etc. There are only a few things in this life you can't control. Which vagina you come out of is one of them. Like you say, if you are happy you are gay, or white, or black or Italian or Asian or whatever great. I'm not sure why there is a need to hold a parade and tell me about it.

It is a big hangup for some people. My neighbor hates the idea of any interracial couples. She doesn't even like that I am dating an Asian girl. Her argument is that children of mix race couples will have no "cultural base." When she told me this I almost started laughing. I said, "My girlfriend is half Japanese, most of my ethnic background is Swedish. The kid will be a viking samurai. That sounds like a pretty good cultural base to me."

I got all excited at first - I thought the thread said "DMCA Struck Down"! LOL

Only people who fucking care about this issue are assholes with no life, worrying about other people's sex lives.

So now that DOMA is unconstitutional, how long will it be before age of consent laws are struck down too?

Why is one form of degeneracy acceptable but another isn't?

ahhh haa ... don't you make a living worry about other peoples sex lives???? :helpme

drug and sex laws are politically motived $.02

Hmmm....good point I must say.....:D