some people choose to not realize the free ride the rest of the world gets due to our military securing their borders. fuck, some countries don't even have a military and rely on usa security ~100%

1/2 the world would take a massive economic shit if we brought all military ops back home requiring other countries to invest in their own military.

i say go for it, i couldn't give 2 shits. most the rest of the world are a bunch of hypocrits, point finger at usa with one hand and the other hand held out open for a handout. so we chip in to help ya out and you turn around and talk shit.

typical.

some people also must not realize how big of jackasses youd tourists are in usa. i have to deal with that shit on a daily basis living across the street from hostel and close to several international hotels.

australians are loud, asians are pushy, british complain, russians act like lost dumbshits. i could easily stereotype every fucking one and bitch about their country based on my observation of a few.

just like idiots on gfy, everyone thinks everyone else is an idiot.

it's easy to point fingers.


it's harder to not.

Travel a bit. Most people like America and Americans. Obama has helped our international image. And Bush was pretty much hated but overall our country is not disliked.

A lot of hate in this thread. A lot of pride too. Both sides are pathetic.

Cars?

Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler, or even Edouard Delamare, might have something to say about that :2 cents:

Probably you mean who perfected the assembly-line.

so you are sitting on your own side pointing your finger at the other sides.

makes sense.

Yep :2 cents:

The US only protects the borders of other countries if there is something in it for them. Usually resources.

I should qualify before replying: I'm pretty much an anarchist.

Military power shouldn't be concentrated in the hands of a few anyway. It only leads to these sorts of problems.

I don't know if I should blame your school system or main-stream media for your ignorance. Care to enlighten me?

Actually "America" is a continent. It generally refers to the northern and southern regions together. Also called "Americas" (plural).

Also, the Spanish want their word back; "Dollar".

Some more inventions the USA seems to think they created (just for shits and giggles):

Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey - all Canadian inventions.

Moon landing - most top engineers were Canadian - head of the Apollo and Gemini projects including the moon landing - from Kamloops BC.

Apple pie (Apples are asian) - McCains popularized the apple pie - a Canadian company.

Telephone was invented in Bellville ON, Canada.

Most telephone technology from the 70s and 80s Northern Electric - Canada.

Blackberry is a Canadian invention. (Yeah, I know it is losing market share like a titanic.)

Want more? :1orglaugh

Lotta righteous indignation and half-baked viewpoints getting tossed around in this thread, par for the course here I guess. Geopolitics is complicated stuff and in reality there's a lot of nuance and gray areas, usually in any situation there are no true good guys and no actual moral high ground once you look behind the curtain & the spin.

Pretty much any nation is going to act in their self-interest within the limits of their power. At this point in time, the USA has by far the most ability to project their power on a global scale so they stand out in this regard, but *any* nation with comparable resources does the same. That's just how it works.

Personally I think there's a shit-ton of problems with the way the US interacts with the world, and there's definitely a divide between how its citizens view US actions and how the rest of the globe does (i.e. many Americans are oblivious to how interventions elsewhere could be negatively perceived). But best believe Putin's Russia would be pulling the same shit or worse if he hadn't been so busy preventing his country's slide into 3rd World irrelevance the last decade-plus. Perhaps you guys would prefer the predicted rise of China as a dominant power instead? Spend some time there & get back to me on that, sounds like a lot of fun.

IMO the root of many of the world's problems is the rise of multinational corporations that are in many ways beyond the reach of law and are so intertwined into the political structure of multiple nations (of which the US is just one) that it's impossible to determine their actual influence. Obviously the US system is beholden to monied interests, but it's pretty much the same shit the world over. Rather than some facile one-dimensional rant against the USA, that's where we should be directing our attention.

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"Limited liability" is bullshit. I think it should be abolished.

umm, no. what resources did we capitalize on in bosnia? none.

you don't know what? care to enlighten you on what?

yes, more needed. specifically facts because much of this is wrong.

jut off the top of my head the apollo shit is wrong, the telephone shit is wrong and the football shit is wrong.

meanwhile, most canadians i've ever spoken with think the canucks burned down the white house and won some war with u.s.

Yup, gotta love when folks try to go the "But... but..... Inventions!!" route, then cite some dubious minor role their nation played. It's kind of cute.

A few guys (Chamberlin, Maynard, etc) out of hundreds on the Apollo project were from Canada? Fuckin' a, pat yourselves on the back!

"McCains popularized the apple pie" and apples are from Asia? Mind blown!

Blackberry is from Canada???? Thread's over, you win.

I am not well-versed in the politics in Bosnia, but if we look around I'm sure there was a reason for the US's involvement that was self-serving.

Your ignorance. Point taken, grandmaster troll.

Chief engineer for Gemini and Apolo was Chamberlain from Kamloops, BC, Canada.

As for Bell, there are these new-fangled things called BOOKS. Maybe you've heard of them.

Your history books say the British did it, ours say Canadians did it.

Edit: In history the US started 4 wars with Canada (Dominion of Canada at the time, British colony) and lost them all.

I didn't start the list, I only added to it. :)

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feel free to find an ulterior motive for bosnia, you won't.

so you want me to enlighten you on my ignorance? that makes no sense, you know that right? but when i ask you what you mean, i'm grandmaster troll.

So even if the US did one good deed it makes up for all of the bloodshed? :1orglaugh

Enlighten me to the *source* of your ignorance. I guess public school or main-stream media. Perhaps you don't even know.

i didn't mention bell, there are other countries besides canada, italy for one. pick up one fo those new-fangled books you mention and look up italy and the telephone.

umm, the bloodshed we did on bosnia? lol, and you are wanting me to enlighten you on my education?

hahahahah. :1orglaugh

there were 500,000 people employed to get to the moon, most of those engineers. congrats on chamberlain's accomplishments but quite frankly, he's a face in a crowd of many it took to get into space.

I thought we were talking about how awesome the USSA is and the inventions it created? Perhaps your drivel is making me blind.

List one important invention that came from the US that was worked up by US-born men, not from men born in other countries that moved there.

Bloodshed from all of the US-involved wars put together. Are you daft?

Too bad they had a lying CEO/CFO and couldn?t keep up with technology changes or they might still be in business. Northern Electric = Northern Telecom = Nortel Networks = Nortel. RIP.

I said top engineers. Re-read thread.

Also, there are more.

Off topic.

Also, they were hacked by the Chinese via a backdoor that was there for years. :1orglaugh

Yep. see those fucking Canadians can't keep anything secure :1orglaugh

18 year employee of Nortel here :thumbsup

no.

i was never talking about how awesome ussa is and the inventions it created. you made an uneducated post taking credit for apollo, football and something else, i stepped in and let you know people know you are talking out of your ass.

and i couldn't give a shit where inventions come from, wtf difference does it make? so 1 country can be better? i don't give a shit, that was my original post you took some issue with-

i don't give a shit in the my country is more badass than your country shit. that's even more retarded than arguing on the internet.

i tend to stay focused on the topic at hand, when you jump around you need to let the audience know that. you expanded your post from saying you are uneducated about bosnia to an overall bitch about america and blood shed since when? 1700 and what? or should we go back further? let me know so i can stay with you.

i know you said top engineers, that's wrong. what, 12 canadian engineers on the entire space project, gemini and apollo? there were 200,000+ engineers on apollo alone.

but hey, if you want, here goes.


yay canada, you got to the moon first. congrats.

feel better? good.

I don't even know where to begin. :1orglaugh

Okay, so to answer the thread's initial question: It became a laughing stock the day you were born. :1orglaugh

I'm jumping around? You should talk, pal.

Since "America"'s inception, of course. I mean, even your national anthem is about war.

farva? is that you?

They were the top ones.

Meanwhile, eat an apple pie and play your national sport of baseball. Don't worry, the secret of their real origin is safe with me. :winkwink:

Sarcasm is the recoil of a weak mind.

umm, you know when the anthem was written right? during a british bombing an american fort. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yes, you, jumping around, you went from not knowing jack shit about bosnia to knowing all about blood shed over american history.

gotta let peeps know when you make a jump like that.

Here's more!

Insulin, Canadian

polio vaccine, Canadian

radiation therapy for cancer treatment = Canada

first heart transplant = South Africa, world leader in heart surgery today = Canada