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Fat Panda 06-28-2013 02:48 PM

rofl

today while freeloaders complain about losing free shit i launched 6 more sites

enjoy the welfare line

:1orglaugh

Jel 06-28-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19691415)
rofl

today while freeloaders complain about losing free shit i launched 6 more sites

enjoy the welfare line

:1orglaugh

Are you permanently high/drunk? What paysites are you doing 1:200 with these days btw?

Fat Panda 06-28-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19691419)
Are you permanently high/drunk? What paysites are you doing 1:200 with these days btw?

rofl 1:200

id be really high then

Jel 06-28-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19691442)
rofl 1:200

id be really high then

ok I'll wait until the next time you do, you won't be able to resist posting in every thread which site it is :thumbsup

_Richard_ 06-28-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19691442)
rofl 1:200

id be really high then

a reason to come to amsterdam? :thumbsup:pimp

i got spots to fill :winkwink:

Bman 06-28-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19691145)
Some food for thought... there was a time when all you talked about was what was going right. Now? Not so much.

Nothing against the op but I think for some reason that is the regular life cycle for somebody in the industry...at least to me.
I think thats why so many "porn" companies end up going in other directions..ie tubes, cams, software, feeds, dmca services, videogames, consulting....what do you think?

alias 06-28-2013 05:21 PM

I'm using duck duck go because it isn't tracked: https://duckduckgo.com/ :pimp

mikesouth 06-28-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19691166)
Someone from Google recently said this to me.

"The adult industry lives inside a fishbowl that is made of clear glass and everyone can see inside that fishbowl and many average people think the fish is ugly."

I LOVE THAT!

genius

adult-help 06-28-2013 07:05 PM

they cant really monetize it with their adsesne etc...

xNetworx 06-28-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19691166)
Someone from Google recently said this to me.

"The adult industry lives inside a fishbowl that is made of clear glass and everyone can see inside that fishbowl and many average people think the fish is ugly."

How the fuck does that guy know what everybody thinks. The nerds at google are ugly :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 06-28-2013 10:44 PM

Google has gotten too big for its' cyber-britches bitches.
I LOVE the idea of directing Exit traffic from paysite tours to Bing instead of Google.

For the first time in my GFY history:

LINKS PULLED!!
:)

GregE 06-28-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 19691375)
if you have an exit link on your site, change that from google to bing.com
Educate your surfers about using Bing instead of google
there is only one way to counter google porn bullshit, get surfers to use Bing vs google

Good idea. For whatever good it'll do, I just did so :thumbsup

slavdogg 06-28-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19691871)
Good idea. For whatever good it'll do, I just did so :thumbsup


i've been following google for few years now
whenever a search term stopped showing adult results, search volumes tank over time.
THey never go away but they go down quiet a bit.

Now that traffic goes somewhere. Users either try new search terms or they go to bing.
Bing's traffic has been growing ever since they became adult friendly.
I believe on the backs of adult searches bing is picking up tiny bits of market share from google

AdultKing 06-28-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 19691881)
Now that traffic goes somewhere. Users either try new search terms or they go to bing.
Bing's traffic has been growing ever since they became adult friendly.
I believe on the backs of adult searches bing is picking up tiny bits of market share from google

Don't think for a moment Bing is "adult friendly".

They just haven't gotten around to cleansing the product yet. I believe with the introduction of the XBox One that you will find Bing start leaning toward being a family friendly product.

The fact is that none of the big corporates like adult, they would prefer it wasn't there.

MainstreamGuy 06-28-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19691134)

And another (damn) thing: with all this Google hate towards blogs, sites, etc, how come tubes still rule the day on Google? Why don't they do something about all this FREE PORN everywhere?

Google seems to hate anyone making MONEY with porn (don't monetize those adult blogs dammit!) yet they give love to tubes, tubes, tubes, where everything's free and readily available, even to minors and children.


That's a good question that remains un-answered.

Obviously Time on Site is not the answer, but something else we still don't know about.

Captain Kawaii 06-28-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19691166)
Someone from Google recently said this to me.

"The adult industry lives inside a fishbowl that is made of clear glass and everyone can see inside that fishbowl and many average people think the fish is ugly."

QFT - :thumbsup - They monitor enough peoples communications and traffic flows. They must have some data to back that up.

MainstreamGuy 06-29-2013 12:01 AM

Time on Site is not the only answer about the Adult Tubes question.

I have seen some search results for adult terms, where 15 out of the first 30 results in google are PURE Tumblr Blogs... And no.. the other 15 are not all tubes.

SO, how do you explain that? And don't tell me because it's tumblr... We are talking about blogs overtaking tubes for some SERPS...

signupdamnit 06-29-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MainstreamGuy (Post 19691924)
Time on Site is not the only answer about the Adult Tubes question.

I have seen some search results for adult terms, where 15 out of the first 30 results in google are PURE Tumblr Blogs... And no.. the other 15 are not all tubes.

SO, how do you explain that? And don't tell me because it's tumblr... We are talking about blogs overtaking tubes for some SERPS...

It's Tumblr. ;) Seriously though TOS obviously isn't the only factor used. I would also hope that TOS and bounce rate is tracked individually per terms or phrase. So a photo blog might have different TOS values for "teen porn" versus "teen porn pics" where with the latter we would expect slightly better numbers. Then you would expect for some terms blogs would rank better than tubes.

Nobody knows for sure what Google does other than Google. But to a degree we can figure some things out by trying to reverse it by looking at the rankings and attempting to put ourselves in Google's shoes while considering how we would solve certain problems they must face.

slavdogg 06-29-2013 06:02 AM

everytime google makes a change, youtube's traffic goes up.
just look at this shit, this is where a ton of porn traffic from google is now going
https://app.compete.com/website/youtube.com/

itx 06-29-2013 07:52 AM

Google is now sending a lot of porn traffic to YouTube, in the end the users doesn't get what they want, just shitty videos.

DamianJ 06-29-2013 07:56 AM

Shared hosting on any major host with unlimited WP installs will run you about $5 a month. If you can't afford that, go back to Macdonalds, bitches.

Why people build up cash driving sources on free platforms is something I'll never really understand.

http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutoria...ogle-rankings/

Fat Panda 06-29-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19692244)
Shared hosting on any major host with unlimited WP installs will run you about $5 a month. If you can't afford that, go back to Macdonalds, bitches.

Why people build up cash driving sources on free platforms is something I'll never really understand.

http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutoria...ogle-rankings/

thats just it its the worthless free host freeloading parasites that fuck over everyone filling 1000000s of spam blogs with plugrush and other shit ads

its time productive value adding people castrate these worthless freeloading free riding parasites for good!

The Porn Nerd 06-29-2013 09:46 AM

The problem with online porn is that there is so much SPAM and so many shitty sites churned out by bots and scripts. Think about some dude in eastern bumfuck. He doesn't give a FUCK about SHIT cause he's living in dirt with shit and pigs and chickens - and a WiFi connection. LOL So he overloads whatever he can with thousands and thousands of shit sites that earn him a whopping $40 a month BUT he can live like a KING for $40 a month because his neighbors make $2 a year.

Deal with THAT somehow Google!

Trend 06-29-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19691134)
Penguin, Panda, deleting adult blogs (better not MONETIZE those adult blogs people!!), WTF?

Why does Google hate porn? And a better question(s) may be: how does this affect those that rely mostly on the SEO game?

think about it: you spend months (years?) building blogs, trying to get your site a nice PR1 or 2, you're competing again GIANT companies with in-house SEO staffs constantly trying to put their tubes on top....is all that effort now wasted?

And another (damn) thing: with all this Google hate towards blogs, sites, etc, how come tubes still rule the day on Google? Why don't they do something about all this FREE PORN everywhere?

Google seems to hate anyone making MONEY with porn (don't monetize those adult blogs dammit!) yet they give love to tubes, tubes, tubes, where everything's free and readily available, even to minors and children.

So what now? All this seems to accomplish is futher fucking the little Webmasters/companies, letting the "big boys" do whatever the fuck they want.


After reading threads this week I'm convinced that "Google" reads GFY and that's why they hate porn. :winkwink:

shimmy2 06-29-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19692340)
Think about some dude in eastern bumfuck. He doesn't give a FUCK about SHIT cause he's living in dirt with shit and pigs and chickens - and a WiFi connection. LOL So he overloads whatever he can with thousands and thousands of shit sites that earn him a whopping $40 a month BUT he can live like a KING for $40 a month because his neighbors make $2 a year.

not far from the truth. eastern bumfuck rocks

Jel 06-29-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19692340)
The problem with online porn is that there is so much SPAM and so many shitty sites churned out by bots and scripts. Think about some dude in eastern bumfuck. He doesn't give a FUCK about SHIT cause he's living in dirt with shit and pigs and chickens - and a WiFi connection. LOL So he overloads whatever he can with thousands and thousands of shit sites that earn him a whopping $40 a month BUT he can live like a KING for $40 a month because his neighbors make $2 a year.

Deal with THAT somehow Google!

Thy don't care about that, they couldn't give a shit. All they care about is that someone is making money as an affiliate, and they hate that. Primary producer is king. It's such an easy workaround anyway. If you can't use affiliate links, you can use....?

Jel 06-29-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19692279)
thats just it its the worthless free host freeloading parasites that fuck over everyone filling 1000000s of spam blogs with plugrush and other shit ads

its time productive value adding people castrate these worthless freeloading free riding parasites for good!

You are so stupid it must hurt :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 06-29-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19692465)
Thy don't care about that, they couldn't give a shit. All they care about is that someone is making money as an affiliate, and they hate that. Primary producer is king. It's such an easy workaround anyway. If you can't use affiliate links, you can use....?

Well, to be more accurate, Google seems to hate certain KINDS of affiliates. Affiliates like PornHub, XHamster etc they seem to LOVE!

Of course, those videos would be there even if they weren't affiliates so I get your point. It's not right. Fuck, even when you search for a site's NAME it can come up on the 3rd page or worse with tubes and such on top of it. WTF???

Jel 06-29-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19692587)
Well, to be more accurate, Google seems to hate certain KINDS of affiliates. Affiliates like PornHub, XHamster etc they seem to LOVE!

Of course, those videos would be there even if they weren't affiliates so I get your point. It's not right. Fuck, even when you search for a site's NAME it can come up on the 3rd page or worse with tubes and such on top of it. WTF???

yup. End product, and google loves to serve the end product, because it's what the surfer wants. If you could physically give away BMWs, and did, you'd be sitting pretty in the serps for all the car manufacturer words/phrases going.

Roald 06-29-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19692615)
yup. End product, and google loves to serve the end product, because it's what the surfer wants. If you could physically give away BMWs, and did, you'd be sitting pretty in the serps for all the car manufacturer words/phrases going.

This.

:2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 06-29-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19692617)
This.

:2 cents:

Freeones must be feeling the Google pain, even a little, no?

slavdogg 06-29-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19692849)
Freeones must be feeling the Google pain, even a little, no?

yup looks like they lost at least 75% of their traffic in the last 2 years, maybe more

Crazy Enough 06-29-2013 09:21 PM

Fucking hypocrites they are! I bet they like sex and like to fuck and even watch porn, but they need to be mainstream because they have pressure from governments and from the hypocrite society to preserve moral values.

This fucking world is a shame itself.

Roald 06-29-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 19692972)
yup looks like they lost at least 75% of their traffic in the last 2 years, maybe more

Not sure where you get this number but its more like 35% but yes it hurts. More mentally than financially though.

Most since last October/November

pornmasta 06-29-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

we will be enforcing this policy and will remove blogs which are adult in nature and are displaying advertisements to adult websites.
So if there is a watermark on a picture, the blog is illegal and it can be closed...

ctggls 06-30-2013 01:34 AM

Mr. Peabody you're talking here about the recent "blogger" platform changes or in general?

You can't say that google hates porn just because it changed the terms to a 3rd party product. In the same way you could that facebook hates porn and tumblr hates porn and so on.
It's not the best strategy to build traffic from free hosts , just look at the thumblogger example.

You could say the google hates blogs and porn when you'll search for porn related terms and you'll get no porn site in the SEPRs.
On the other hand it's true that most porn terms like "free porn, porn, etc" are dominated by the big players but this is because they have lots and lots of backlinks pointed to them but that is not to the point of this thread.

cordoba 06-30-2013 02:13 AM

Google has been under massive pressure from lobby groups to make it harder for both children and adults to find porn. We had the Prime Minster David Cameron here demanding it of Google just last week.

The Porn Nerd 06-30-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19693112)
Mr. Peabody you're talking here about the recent "blogger" platform changes or in general?

You can't say that google hates porn just because it changed the terms to a 3rd party product. In the same way you could that facebook hates porn and tumblr hates porn and so on.
It's not the best strategy to build traffic from free hosts , just look at the thumblogger example.

You could say the google hates blogs and porn when you'll search for porn related terms and you'll get no porn site in the SEPRs.
On the other hand it's true that most porn terms like "free porn, porn, etc" are dominated by the big players but this is because they have lots and lots of backlinks pointed to them but that is not to the point of this thread.

The recent Blogger thing is the cause of the thread but it also leads into the wider question, why does Google hate porn in general?



Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 19693125)
Google has been under massive pressure from lobby groups to make it harder for both children and adults to find porn. We had the Prime Minster David Cameron here demanding it of Google just last week.


This is my point exactly here - if Google hates porn and wants to make it more difficult for people to find then WHY do they list so much FREE porn? Free porn dominates - it just seems Google doesn't want anyone making money from porn (especially not affiliates).

fuzebox 06-30-2013 09:54 AM

Have you read any "porn blogs"? What surfer actually wants to spend time on them? 99% of them have useless 1-3 line posts, or spun rss text from sponsors, and basically link a crappy FHG or the sponsor directy.

Jel 06-30-2013 09:58 AM

I'll say it again. Google loves end product, and if it's free for surfers, the better. Type in any band/artist and odds are it's their (and by their I mean free, 'autogenerated by youtube') youtube channel, certainly top 5 if not 3.

Why? Because give anyone the choice of free or paid, and the vast majority want free.

Not to mention: Free = 100s of thousands of natural backlinks, and despite what's been said in this thread, backlinks rule. It's a vicious cycle that just breeds the 'everything is free on the internet' mentality we now have that absolutely dominates popular thought.

Kolargol 06-30-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19692244)
Shared hosting on any major host with unlimited WP installs will run you about $5 a month. If you can't afford that, go back to Macdonalds, bitches.

Why people build up cash driving sources on free platforms is something I'll never really understand.

http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutoria...ogle-rankings/

I used to build blogger sites 6-7 years ago because they had good traffic from within the network.

Robbie 06-30-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19693439)
Have you read any "porn blogs"? What surfer actually wants to spend time on them? 99% of them have useless 1-3 line posts, or spun rss text from sponsors, and basically link a crappy FHG or the sponsor directy.

Exactly. I've never read a porn blog in my life. There's no point to it.
They were for nothing but getting SEO traffic to the real site to begin with.
And now Google is definitely taking the Time On Site factor into the equation since it would indicate whether the site is really delivering the content that interests people who are searching for that keyword or keywords.

As I said earlier...if you have two sites and ALL things are equal: keywords, good text, backlinks, etc. BUT...one of them is a tube site and holds people much, much longer on the site than the blog ever could, then the "tie" is broken and the "win" goes to the tube every time.

The Porn Nerd 06-30-2013 01:35 PM

I wish Google would delineate between "free" and "paid" and make a distinction somehow. Flag the tubes as 'WARNING PARENTS FREE PORN! IF YOU CLICK THIS LINK YOU WILL FIND FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS WATCH OUT!"

LOL

Making porn INaccessible would make it naughtier, dirtier, MORE desireable. Ah Google don't you get this?

Robbie 06-30-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19693704)
Flag the tubes as 'WARNING PARENTS FREE PORN! IF YOU CLICK THIS LINK YOU WILL FIND FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS WATCH OUT!"

That would make them even more popular. Best way to make something "hot" is to ban it.

That's why porn sold so damn good up until the last few years. When it was just pictures and a few 15 second clips here and there it was the perfect amount of "tease" to get them to want to buy.

Now? Hell, people are BORED with porn. I'm pretty sure there are at least a hundred thousand full scenes out there for free now. :(

But yeah, if you want to get the porn tubes to have even MORE traffic then putting that warning on Google would do the trick.

Human nature. Tell people about "FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS" and warn them not to click...you might as well lay down the red carpet for them to do it. lol

Markul 06-30-2013 01:54 PM

Fuck it, we'll build an importer so you can export your blogger site and import it to easyxsites.com :)

It is indeed a very strange move on Google's part, especially since they allow adult - just not if people profit from it. Very strange.

Jel 06-30-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19693545)
As I said earlier...if you have two sites and ALL things are equal: keywords, good text, backlinks, etc. BUT...one of them is a tube site and holds people much, much longer on the site than the blog ever could, then the "tie" is broken and the "win" goes to the tube every time.

Kinda moot - if you have keywords, text, time on site as equal, then backlinks would win the tie.

Think about why tubes get the most backlinks. In fact, I've already said why a couple posts up - it ain't rocket science :upsidedow

Robbie 06-30-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19693729)
Kinda moot - if you have keywords, text, time on site as equal, then backlinks would win the tie.

Think about why tubes get the most backlinks. In fact, I've already said why a couple posts up - it ain't rocket science :upsidedow

I agree...but the reason that all of that works for tubes is: Full porn scenes.
End of story.

They get the backlinks and the time on site because they are giving the entire farm away for free. :(

And the ones who got their first with the most (the best thieves) are the ones that are going to stay at the top.

No way to build a new tube and get as many backlinks as you want...it still won't knock those older tubes off their position.

Jel 06-30-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19693740)
I agree...but the reason that all of that works for tubes is: Full porn scenes.
End of story.

They get the backlinks and the time on site because they are giving the entire farm away for free. :(

And the ones who got their first with the most (the best thieves) are the ones that are going to stay at the top.

No way to build a new tube and get as many backlinks as you want...it still won't knock those older tubes off their position.

yup

8char

NewNick 07-01-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19691309)
As for the b/w argument - they are still allowing porn, just don't monetize it. How does that fit into them trying to save bw/resources?

Simple.

If you cannot monetize it it reduces the load. Peeps dont write this shit for fun.:thumbsup

Jel 07-01-2013 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19694310)
Simple.

If you cannot monetize it it reduces the load. Peeps dont write this shit for fun.:thumbsup

We'll have to agree to disagree, I just can't see them making this move to reduce load/bw. I also don't think it'll stop people still making them, just take a look at tumblr to see how many people love to give shit away, for fun :upsidedow


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