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The Porn Nerd 06-29-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19692617)
This.

:2 cents:

Freeones must be feeling the Google pain, even a little, no?

slavdogg 06-29-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19692849)
Freeones must be feeling the Google pain, even a little, no?

yup looks like they lost at least 75% of their traffic in the last 2 years, maybe more

Crazy Enough 06-29-2013 09:21 PM

Fucking hypocrites they are! I bet they like sex and like to fuck and even watch porn, but they need to be mainstream because they have pressure from governments and from the hypocrite society to preserve moral values.

This fucking world is a shame itself.

Roald 06-29-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 19692972)
yup looks like they lost at least 75% of their traffic in the last 2 years, maybe more

Not sure where you get this number but its more like 35% but yes it hurts. More mentally than financially though.

Most since last October/November

pornmasta 06-29-2013 10:48 PM

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we will be enforcing this policy and will remove blogs which are adult in nature and are displaying advertisements to adult websites.
So if there is a watermark on a picture, the blog is illegal and it can be closed...

ctggls 06-30-2013 01:34 AM

Mr. Peabody you're talking here about the recent "blogger" platform changes or in general?

You can't say that google hates porn just because it changed the terms to a 3rd party product. In the same way you could that facebook hates porn and tumblr hates porn and so on.
It's not the best strategy to build traffic from free hosts , just look at the thumblogger example.

You could say the google hates blogs and porn when you'll search for porn related terms and you'll get no porn site in the SEPRs.
On the other hand it's true that most porn terms like "free porn, porn, etc" are dominated by the big players but this is because they have lots and lots of backlinks pointed to them but that is not to the point of this thread.

cordoba 06-30-2013 02:13 AM

Google has been under massive pressure from lobby groups to make it harder for both children and adults to find porn. We had the Prime Minster David Cameron here demanding it of Google just last week.

The Porn Nerd 06-30-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19693112)
Mr. Peabody you're talking here about the recent "blogger" platform changes or in general?

You can't say that google hates porn just because it changed the terms to a 3rd party product. In the same way you could that facebook hates porn and tumblr hates porn and so on.
It's not the best strategy to build traffic from free hosts , just look at the thumblogger example.

You could say the google hates blogs and porn when you'll search for porn related terms and you'll get no porn site in the SEPRs.
On the other hand it's true that most porn terms like "free porn, porn, etc" are dominated by the big players but this is because they have lots and lots of backlinks pointed to them but that is not to the point of this thread.

The recent Blogger thing is the cause of the thread but it also leads into the wider question, why does Google hate porn in general?



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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 19693125)
Google has been under massive pressure from lobby groups to make it harder for both children and adults to find porn. We had the Prime Minster David Cameron here demanding it of Google just last week.


This is my point exactly here - if Google hates porn and wants to make it more difficult for people to find then WHY do they list so much FREE porn? Free porn dominates - it just seems Google doesn't want anyone making money from porn (especially not affiliates).

fuzebox 06-30-2013 09:54 AM

Have you read any "porn blogs"? What surfer actually wants to spend time on them? 99% of them have useless 1-3 line posts, or spun rss text from sponsors, and basically link a crappy FHG or the sponsor directy.

Jel 06-30-2013 09:58 AM

I'll say it again. Google loves end product, and if it's free for surfers, the better. Type in any band/artist and odds are it's their (and by their I mean free, 'autogenerated by youtube') youtube channel, certainly top 5 if not 3.

Why? Because give anyone the choice of free or paid, and the vast majority want free.

Not to mention: Free = 100s of thousands of natural backlinks, and despite what's been said in this thread, backlinks rule. It's a vicious cycle that just breeds the 'everything is free on the internet' mentality we now have that absolutely dominates popular thought.

Kolargol 06-30-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19692244)
Shared hosting on any major host with unlimited WP installs will run you about $5 a month. If you can't afford that, go back to Macdonalds, bitches.

Why people build up cash driving sources on free platforms is something I'll never really understand.

http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutoria...ogle-rankings/

I used to build blogger sites 6-7 years ago because they had good traffic from within the network.

Robbie 06-30-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19693439)
Have you read any "porn blogs"? What surfer actually wants to spend time on them? 99% of them have useless 1-3 line posts, or spun rss text from sponsors, and basically link a crappy FHG or the sponsor directy.

Exactly. I've never read a porn blog in my life. There's no point to it.
They were for nothing but getting SEO traffic to the real site to begin with.
And now Google is definitely taking the Time On Site factor into the equation since it would indicate whether the site is really delivering the content that interests people who are searching for that keyword or keywords.

As I said earlier...if you have two sites and ALL things are equal: keywords, good text, backlinks, etc. BUT...one of them is a tube site and holds people much, much longer on the site than the blog ever could, then the "tie" is broken and the "win" goes to the tube every time.

The Porn Nerd 06-30-2013 01:35 PM

I wish Google would delineate between "free" and "paid" and make a distinction somehow. Flag the tubes as 'WARNING PARENTS FREE PORN! IF YOU CLICK THIS LINK YOU WILL FIND FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS WATCH OUT!"

LOL

Making porn INaccessible would make it naughtier, dirtier, MORE desireable. Ah Google don't you get this?

Robbie 06-30-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19693704)
Flag the tubes as 'WARNING PARENTS FREE PORN! IF YOU CLICK THIS LINK YOU WILL FIND FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS WATCH OUT!"

That would make them even more popular. Best way to make something "hot" is to ban it.

That's why porn sold so damn good up until the last few years. When it was just pictures and a few 15 second clips here and there it was the perfect amount of "tease" to get them to want to buy.

Now? Hell, people are BORED with porn. I'm pretty sure there are at least a hundred thousand full scenes out there for free now. :(

But yeah, if you want to get the porn tubes to have even MORE traffic then putting that warning on Google would do the trick.

Human nature. Tell people about "FREE DISGUSTING SEX ACTS" and warn them not to click...you might as well lay down the red carpet for them to do it. lol

Markul 06-30-2013 01:54 PM

Fuck it, we'll build an importer so you can export your blogger site and import it to easyxsites.com :)

It is indeed a very strange move on Google's part, especially since they allow adult - just not if people profit from it. Very strange.

Jel 06-30-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19693545)
As I said earlier...if you have two sites and ALL things are equal: keywords, good text, backlinks, etc. BUT...one of them is a tube site and holds people much, much longer on the site than the blog ever could, then the "tie" is broken and the "win" goes to the tube every time.

Kinda moot - if you have keywords, text, time on site as equal, then backlinks would win the tie.

Think about why tubes get the most backlinks. In fact, I've already said why a couple posts up - it ain't rocket science :upsidedow

Robbie 06-30-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19693729)
Kinda moot - if you have keywords, text, time on site as equal, then backlinks would win the tie.

Think about why tubes get the most backlinks. In fact, I've already said why a couple posts up - it ain't rocket science :upsidedow

I agree...but the reason that all of that works for tubes is: Full porn scenes.
End of story.

They get the backlinks and the time on site because they are giving the entire farm away for free. :(

And the ones who got their first with the most (the best thieves) are the ones that are going to stay at the top.

No way to build a new tube and get as many backlinks as you want...it still won't knock those older tubes off their position.

Jel 06-30-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19693740)
I agree...but the reason that all of that works for tubes is: Full porn scenes.
End of story.

They get the backlinks and the time on site because they are giving the entire farm away for free. :(

And the ones who got their first with the most (the best thieves) are the ones that are going to stay at the top.

No way to build a new tube and get as many backlinks as you want...it still won't knock those older tubes off their position.

yup

8char

NewNick 07-01-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19691309)
As for the b/w argument - they are still allowing porn, just don't monetize it. How does that fit into them trying to save bw/resources?

Simple.

If you cannot monetize it it reduces the load. Peeps dont write this shit for fun.:thumbsup

Jel 07-01-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19694310)
Simple.

If you cannot monetize it it reduces the load. Peeps dont write this shit for fun.:thumbsup

We'll have to agree to disagree, I just can't see them making this move to reduce load/bw. I also don't think it'll stop people still making them, just take a look at tumblr to see how many people love to give shit away, for fun :upsidedow

mopek1 07-01-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19691304)
Yeah, Pornhub can claim that they have SEO "geniuses" working for them.
But Google makes decisions about the relative importance of a site via the tags and text. We all use that...but then they look at how long a surfer stays on that particular site.

If they are only on your site a minute of two then you are ranked in that level of importance.
However if people are staying on a site for a long time then guess what? All things being equal...Google will go with the site that keeps the surfer longer.

This is what I think as well.

Don't listen to what google tells you to do. This is one of the only things that matters.

NewNick 07-01-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19691866)
Google has gotten too big for its' cyber-britches bitches.
I LOVE the idea of directing Exit traffic from paysite tours to Bing instead of Google.

For the first time in my GFY history:

LINKS PULLED!!
:)


For all the google haters you can be assured there is one little venture that is adjusting the big G's ringpiece in the most spectacular fashion.

Some smartarse is planning a very comfortable retirement.......

http://lic.me/i/xb7l.jpg


Bigger the Jasmin and pornhub, and almost as much traffic as twitter.

A very elegant money machine.

:thumbsup

Jel 07-01-2013 06:48 AM

Isn't delta-search an auto-install with facebook etc apps, and pulls all it's results from google anyway?

NewNick 07-01-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19694541)
Isn't delta-search an auto-install with facebook etc apps, and pulls all it's results from google anyway?

Not really.

More a google clone that pulls it's search results from bing.

It finds its way onto the PC via dubious means, then hijacks your browser to redirect everytime you want to go to google.

xNetworx 07-01-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19694552)
Not really.

More a google clone that pulls it's search results from bing.

It finds its way onto the PC via dubious means, then hijacks your browser to redirect everytime you want to go to google.

So it is illegal no?

SilentKnight 07-01-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SGS (Post 19691205)
Google doesn't hate porn, it hates pornographers.

Reminds me of the line from Braveheart - "The trouble with Scotland is...it's full of Scots!"

NewNick 07-01-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19694594)
So it is illegal no?


Illegal ?

In which jurisdiction ?

Who is going to police it ?

As long as they dont step foot in the US, or use servers in the US, I would imagine that there is very little google can do about it.

:thumbsup

baggg 07-01-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19694594)
So it is illegal no?

looks like it is advertised with pay-per-install networks

alexa 33

Results for delta-search.com :

Domain Created on:
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JosephFM 07-01-2013 10:01 AM

Actually, there's an article somewhere that says that the company behind delta search is actually "working" for yahoo.

It's on a jewish news site since the company behind delta search is apparently jewish.

Roald 07-01-2013 10:29 AM

when I do a search for delta-search in Google it gives me only results on how to remove it.

Seem legit lol

JosephFM 07-01-2013 11:22 AM

Here's an article about the company behind delta search. http://www.haaretz.com/business/at-t...dJZulM.twitter

Roald 07-01-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 19694923)
Here's an article about the company behind delta search. http://www.haaretz.com/business/at-t...dJZulM.twitter

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The full text is available for subscribers & registered users.
:warning

NewNick 07-01-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 19694805)
Actually, there's an article somewhere that says that the company behind delta search is actually "working" for yahoo.

It's on a jewish news site since the company behind delta search is apparently jewish.

It is plausible, but if yahoo/bing were actually authorising this it would be legal/commercial suicide.

The google legal peeps would tear them to pieces. :2 cents:

More likely it is the biggest example of how the internet remains lawless as long as companies and individuals can use jurisdiction of individual nations to their benefit.

The fact that it is google at the sharp end is particularly ironic :2 cents::thumbsup:2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 07-01-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19695191)
It is plausible, but if yahoo/bing were actually authorising this it would be legal/commercial suicide.

The google legal peeps would tear them to pieces. :2 cents:

More likely it is the biggest example of how the internet remains lawless as long as companies and individuals can use jurisdiction of individual nations to their benefit.

The fact that it is google at the sharp end is particularly ironic :2 cents::thumbsup:2 cents:

This is the Goal of the Powers That be: to tighten the noose slowly until people don't even realize they're fenced in.

Adam_M 07-01-2013 09:45 PM

I don't think Google hates porn. I think the internet porn industry was largely built by a group of people that made very easy money fast and never had to work hard. These days a lot of people have not been able to change, they still look for the way they can get a site or sites out and live as fast as possible, short cut SEO with lots of link buying, pull duplicate text content from other sites so they don't need to write it, use free blog scripts ect ect ect.

Google does not hate us but we have lots of reasons to hate ourselves!


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