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adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19699652)
This only happens at extreme doses.

Perhaps.. or perhaps not. Thats like saying taking too much test can grow tits on a dude.
Plenty of people grew tits on their first try, even in small doses.
HGH should never be recommended to someone who has no experience with even the basics.

Choopa Phil 07-02-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699665)
Perhaps.. or perhaps not. Thats like saying taking too much test can grow tits on a dude.
Plenty of people grew tits on their first try, even in small doses.
HGH should never be recommended to someone who has no experience with even the basics.

That's probably because they didn't take a Aromatase Inhibitor. Bitch tits is due to the conversion of excess testosterone into estrogen...this can only happen if the proper ancillaries arent taken. Also known as....an uneducated, unexperienced, unsupervised user...improper use of most pharmaceuticals will leave you with negative side effects no? I do agree with the suggestion of doing HGH/Steroids is not recommended at all...in fact youd probably end up getting hurt in the long run due to your muscles getting stronger much faster than connective tissues (tendons, ligaments)

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699655)
Most steroids and bio-identical hormones are dose dependent with respect to their effects on the body, as are any possible side effects (though in most cases genetics play a very strong role) and you should stop talking. You will never prove HGH is harmful in supplemental quantities.

And nor will you? Are you a physician? Please tell me what medical training have to prescribe HGH even in small dosages? Do you fully understand what it does to the body?
I love it when GFY idiots play lawyer.. even more when they think they are a doctor. LOL

Google Expert 07-02-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trade_Monkey (Post 19699612)
BTW I forgot one thing.

Disipline. I NEVER skip a training.
I don't eat french fries, no unhealty fat, no rubish food, -> ONLY HEALTH FOOD.

Only one day in the weekend I have a refeed-day (not a cheatday). Then I eat one dish that I like.

It's a way of living. Not for everyone.

Ok, lets see a pic of yourself.

Major (Tom) 07-02-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MainstreamGuy (Post 19699516)
Creatine/Glutamine/Protein...

Ask Robbie or Duke Skywalker (hmmm I think Duke takes heavy mexican steroids)...

Steroids in USA are illegal, but most people take them anyways.

Steroids will fuck your body for life and give you serious long term side effects. But still people take them. For example Duke Skywalker. I never liked Star Wars the most boring movie I have seen in years...

Wtf? I'm not a star wars fan either tbh.
ds

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:37 PM

Please DR TheSquealer, tell us all why HGH (or even any other type of steroid) is safe? Why you think the dude posted asking about something OTHER then roids? Its because they know their is nothing safe about it. Fucking idiot.

Choopa Phil 07-02-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699684)
Please DR TheSquealer, tell us all why HGH (or even any other type of steroid) is safe? Why you think the dude posted asking about something OTHER then roids? Its because they know their is nothing safe about it. Fucking idiot.

Maybe he just doesnt want to do anything illegal or want to inject himself? If he has low testosterone levels/hormone levels having either prescribed under the supervision of a Dr. is extremely safe. Might want to do some research before dropping F bombs...

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19699671)
That's probably because they didn't take a Aromatase Inhibitor. Bitch tits is due to the conversion of excess testosterone into estrogen...this can only happen if the proper ancillaries arent taken. Also known as....an uneducated, unexperienced, unsupervised user...improper use of most pharmaceuticals will leave you with negative side effects no? I do agree with the suggestion of doing HGH/Steroids is not recommended at all...in fact youd probably end up getting hurt in the long run due to your muscles getting stronger much faster than connective tissues (tendons, ligaments)

Perhaps.. But you must understand 99.9% of people that take shit never see a doctor.
nor do they do any extensive research. Making stupid recommendations on any forum... well is just stupid. Before the user knows it... its too late. I'm not telling anyone not to use. Hell.. I did it myself many times and many people do with no problems. But not everyone is the same. And without being monitored by a doctor is like playing Russian roulette with your body. And recommending HGH to a novice is just plain stupid.

Marcus Aurelius 07-02-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699639)
HGH is one of the most dangerous shit you can fucking take. It can cause acromegaly.
Stop recommending shit you know nothing about. Idiot!

It could be dangerous if you take stupid amounts of it. And it's definitely not the 'most dangerous shit you can take'. Stallone has been abusing the fuck out of it for years, and is doing fine.

In normal doses you will only get the benefits with zero side effects. It will make you look and feel like a greek God.

It's exactly the same stuff your body produces naturally. Only your body slows down it's production with time, and by supplementing you are just getting it back to good levels.

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699675)
And nor will you? Are you a physician? Please tell me what medical training have to prescribe HGH even in small dosages? Do you fully understand what it does to the body?
I love it when GFY idiots play lawyer.. even more when they think they are a doctor. LOL

Of the two of us, i'm willing to bet i'm the only one that used it for years. It's regularly prescribed... all over the nation in hormone replacement therapy,.. its regularly prescribed even to children. You're a fucking moron. When people abuse it, they are using 5-10X as much as they should. Even then, there are rarely side effects and when bodybuilders are using HGH... they are stacking it with other steroids. Not using it on its own.

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adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19699688)
Maybe he just doesnt want to do anything illegal or want to inject himself? If he has low testosterone levels/hormone levels having either prescribed under the supervision of a Dr. is extremely safe. Might want to do some research before dropping F bombs...

Why? people are recommending a obliviously novice user to pump his body with hgh and steroids and I shouldent call them a fucking idiot? Please... only serious people who actually compete in anything worthwhile are being monitored by a doctor. I can see you actually have a "clue" in the discussion. But you must admit no one seeks help from doctor. We are not talking about a serious athlete here.

Trade_Monkey 07-02-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Getsu (Post 19699679)
Ok, lets see a pic of yourself.

Naked? :winkwink:

No seriously ... I'm not going to post a picture.
Why should I do that? I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

If we ever cross somewhere (at a convention or wherever) ...
then I don't care. Then you'll notice anyway.

I don't train for others, I train for myself.
Also I'm only190 pounds (ripped - and bit more in bulk) not 300 pounds :winkwink:

I'm not Ronnie Coleman and I'll never will lol

dyna mo 07-02-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19699703)
In normal doses you will only get the benefits with zero side effects. It will make you look and feel like a greek God.

this is not true. i was under the medical supervision of a socal hormone doctor, and was prescribed hgh for ~1 year. it helped but not anywhere near greek god level.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699710)
Why? people are recommending a obliviously novice user to pump his body with hgh and steroids and I shouldent call them a fucking idiot? Please... only serious people who actually compete in anything worthwhile are being monitored by a doctor. I can see you actually have a "clue" in the discussion. But you must admit no one seeks help from doctor. We are not talking about a serious athlete here.

And if they said... dude go see a doctor and see if you have low T then I would have nothing to say. But HGH is fucking dangerous. I don't care what opinion you or other have.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19699717)
this is not true. i was under the medical supervision of a socal hormone doctor, and was prescribed hgh for ~1 year. it helped but not anywhere near greek god level.

you see... you fucking GFY doctors fuck off. You have no clue.

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699718)
And if they said... dude go see a doctor and see if you have low T then I would have nothing to say. But HGH is fucking dangerous. I don't care what opinion you or other have.

You have yet to prove it with fact. You're just talking shit. It's widely used. It's regularly prescribed - even to children.

Marcus Aurelius 07-02-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19699717)
this is not true. i was under the medical supervision of a socal hormone doctor, and was prescribed hgh for ~1 year. it helped but not anywhere near greek god level.

How much / day were you injecting?

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699720)
you see... you fucking GFY doctors fuck off. You have no clue.

Ahh.. i forgot you were the nutjob that got so hostile in defense of zoo/cp spam.

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Marcus Aurelius 07-02-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699718)
And if they said... dude go see a doctor and see if you have low T then I would have nothing to say. But HGH is fucking dangerous. I don't care what opinion you or other have.

Are you an doctor?

Didn't think so. So shut the fuck up.

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19699722)
How much / day were you injecting?

Its usually around 1 i.u. (a little over) per day, 5/6 days a week.

vs. say the 5 -10 i.u.'s per day someone like a pro bodybuilder would take.

Google Expert 07-02-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Trade_Monkey (Post 19699715)
Naked? :winkwink:

No seriously ... I'm not going to post a picture.
Why should I do that? I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

If we ever cross somewhere (at a convention or wherever) ...
then I don't care. Then you'll notice anyway.

I don't train for others, I train for myself.
Also I'm only190 pounds (ripped - and bit more in bulk) not 300 pounds :winkwink:

I'm not Ronnie Coleman and I'll never will lol

You post like you know a lot. I was interested to see if it was just all talk.

Just post a pic of your body and paint over the face.

dyna mo 07-02-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19699722)
How much / day were you injecting?

i actually don't recall, this was 5 years ago, i was also prescribed testosterone, which i continued to use after the 1 year.

my case may be out of the ordinary, due to my insulin issues and the requirement that hormones all work together. but i have read other's experiences with gh and many don't have the greek god results.

maybe the squealer can chime in here with his experience.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19699717)
this is not true. i was under the medical supervision of a socal hormone doctor, and was prescribed hgh for ~1 year. it helped but not anywhere near greek god level.

Soon the GFY doctors will chime in... Well dyna mo.. you dident take enough! Yeah because he was under the correct supervision and took it according. And if he did before he realizes his jaw bone out grew his upper jawbone making him look like a freak.

Trade_Monkey 07-02-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19699618)
what are your thoughts on the op's wanting to start to gain muscle after 40? have you noticed your gains changing as you moved into your 40s?

Well it takes a lot more time (and harder training) for me to make the same progress as a 24 y.o.

I do a lot of triple sets ... at least a couple times a week.

For example I do 2 tripple-sets back (2 x 3 exercises - 4 sets - 8 to 12 reps) and 2 triplle-sets shoulders. (2 x 3 exercises - 4 sets - 8 to 12 reps). All heavy weights.

I only take resttime between the triplesets not in the triplleset.

Then the ship has landed mate :)


Also I look at least 10 years younger then I am.


.

Marcus Aurelius 07-02-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699727)
Its usually around 1 i.u. (a little over) per day, 5/6 days a week.

vs. say the 5 -10 i.u.'s per day someone like a pro bodybuilder would take.

1UI a day won't make any difference, correct.

For a regular joe a basic supplement dose would be 2ui-4ui on a 5/7 per week.

Pro bodybuilders start from 8ui/day and up to 15.

CaptainHowdy 07-02-2013 03:03 PM

Beer??

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adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699721)
You have yet to prove it with fact. You're just talking shit. It's widely used. It's regularly prescribed - even to children.

Because it is prescribed with people who have a LEGIT MEDICAL CONDITION!
Why is it so difficult for you to actually grasp this?
Children are prescribed this because they have growth hormone (GH) deficiency you fucking idiot. Its official.. You are truly the GFY idiot of all time.

Trade_Monkey 07-02-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19699743)


LOL :winkwink:

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19699741)
1UI a day won't make any difference, correct.

For a regular joe a basic supplement dose would be 2ui-4ui on a 5/7 per week.

Pro bodybuilders start from 8ui/day and up to 15.

i.u.'s are based on the product. I've never heard of any HGH taken daily by prescription for supplemental reasons in that high of a dose... but its been a while since i had a prescription so i am probably off. I used to take one type (it was made by Lilly), then went to Serostim when it came out. I think i was always sticking to 1.5-ish, 6 days a week. All this was back though when it cost $1000.00 per month, of course now there are many products and its much cheaper.

dyna mo 07-02-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19699741)
1UI a day won't make any difference, correct.

For a regular joe a basic supplement dose would be 2ui-4ui on a 5/7 per week.

Pro bodybuilders start from 8ui/day and up to 15.

i do know that i was not willing to go out of bounds of what the doctor prescribed and he saw i was in very good shape and i also told him i am looking to gain. so i am pretty sure he maxed my dosages to the level he felt safe and it was gh bought through his pharmacy so he was getting a big cut of the gh too and could have dosed me higher but didn't.

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699745)
Because it is prescribed with people who have a LEGIT MEDICAL CONDITION!
Why is it so difficult for you to actually grasp this?
Children are prescribed this because they have growth hormone (GH) deficiency you fucking idiot. Its official.. You are truly the GFY idiot of all time.

Are you angry because you are stupid? Or stupid because you are angry? As someone once said "strong emotion is the enemy of reason". You have a lot of it... no reason to expect you to be reasonable.

My point... is that its widely used. More so that you seem to be aware of.

Anyway, you were much cuter when you were defending the bestiality and CP spam. Here, you're clearly talking out of your ass.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699754)
Are you angry because you are stupid? Or stupid because you are angry? As someone once said "strong emotion is the enemy of reason". You have a lot of it... no reason to expect you to be reasonable.

My point... is that its widely used. More so that you seem to be aware of.

Anyway, you were much cuter when you were defending the bestiality and CP spam. Here, you're clearly talking out of your ass.

Actually, I'm quite aware on how much HGH is abused. I'm simply pointing out that idiots (yourself) claim its the miracle drug and will change your life that this is not the case.
Sure.. this ill help you in the gym. But in the long run when your body gives out and you have cancer in more places then usual you will ask yourself (why the fuck did I do that)
You will see. Their is a reason why its a PRESCRIBED drug you fucking idiot. Its to prevent idiots like you from self destruction.

TheSquealer 07-02-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19699765)
Actually, I'm quite aware on how much HGH is abused. I'm simply pointing out that idiots (yourself) claim its the miracle drug and will change your life that this is not the case.
Sure.. this ill help you in the gym. But in the long run when your body gives out and you have cancer in more places then usual you will ask yourself (why the fuck did I do that)
You will see. Their is a reason why its a PRESCRIBED drug you fucking idiot. Its to prevent idiots like you from self destruction.

I didn't make any claims whatsoever. You are just making things up.

And you obviously know nothing about it if you believe there are no positive health benefits to using HGH or that its primary use is "in the gym" - which it isn't.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699772)
I didn't make any claims whatsoever. You are just making things up.

And you obviously know nothing about it if you believe there are no positive health benefits to using HGH or that its primary use is "in the gym" - which it isn't.

I'm well aware of the other "health" benefits jackass. I'm making a point of the "RISKS".
Is it me or only idiots like yourself think about this? When your older you will see all the new problems you have now inherited because of your idiotic thinking. Before you know it you will have cancers you never dreamed could happen. Good luck in the gym steroid boy.

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19699772)
I didn't make any claims whatsoever. You are just making things up.

And you obviously know nothing about it if you believe there are no positive health benefits to using HGH or that its primary use is "in the gym" - which it isn't.

I'm going to take drugs because they also prescribe them to kids! You are beyond stupid dude.

Wilbo 07-02-2013 03:29 PM

I started lifting at 51, I'm almost 53 now. I could barely do 135x10 bench press when I started and can now almost double that. I took protein and creatine for a while, but don't any more. I built my own gym in the basement with used stuff off of Craigslist and lift about 5 or 6 times a week. I like to watch ballgames and movies while I lift, makes me forget how much I'm suffering. I thought about steroids, but I'm too stupid and lazy to read up on them and don't feel I should do them unless I know what harm, if any, they can cause. I have lost 30 or 40 pounds and feel I have picked up at least 10 or 15 pounds of muscle. If I can lose weight and gain muscle and strength anyone can.

dyna mo 07-02-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 19699782)
I started lifting at 51, I'm almost 53 now. I could barely do 135x10 bench press when I started and can now almost double that. I took protein and creatine for a while, but don't any more. I built my own gym in the basement with used stuff off of Craigslist and lift about 5 or 6 times a week. I like to watch ballgames and movies while I lift, makes me forget how much I'm suffering. I thought about steroids, but I'm too stupid and lazy to read up on them and don't feel I should do them unless I know what harm, if any, they can cause. I have lost 30 or 40 pounds and feel I have picked up at least 10 or 15 pounds of muscle. If I can lose weight and gain muscle and strength anyone can.

quoted for inspiration!

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19699743)

About the only worthy post made in this thread. fucking sad

adulttraffic 07-02-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 19699782)
I started lifting at 51, I'm almost 53 now. I could barely do 135x10 bench press when I started and can now almost double that. I took protein and creatine for a while, but don't any more. I built my own gym in the basement with used stuff off of Craigslist and lift about 5 or 6 times a week. I like to watch ballgames and movies while I lift, makes me forget how much I'm suffering. I thought about steroids, but I'm too stupid and lazy to read up on them and don't feel I should do them unless I know what harm, if any, they can cause. I have lost 30 or 40 pounds and feel I have picked up at least 10 or 15 pounds of muscle. If I can lose weight and gain muscle and strength anyone can.

Dude, steroids can and will give you incredible gains. It can change your life.. but in many ways. All these idiots here focus on short time gains. Yeah.. You can tipple your bench in 2 months. And HGH can do much the same for you.. but with great risks. It is a know fact this shit can and does cause cancer along with many other problems. If you made the gains stated above then pat yourself on your back. You dont need any of the shit discussed here. Sometimes stupidity can be a good thing.

dyna mo 07-02-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilbo (Post 19699782)
If I can lose weight and gain muscle and strength anyone can.

just a caveat or 2, you are prolly right that anyone can,except if there are any prevailing medical issues, which aren't uncommon in our age bracket.

and the other is i would guess you haven't had any serious training injuries? pushing too hard, or even being careless, can lead to an injury that shuts down your entire training program.


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