Are you sure you're getting enough protein there? (sarcasm!) :)

I done 15 hours fast (not long enough for my liking, forgot myself and drank a caloric drink at 9pm which screwed me up). Broke that fast (after some sporadic training), with an omelette of; 2 eggs, with 2 slices of ham, 1 slice of turkey, some Serano chilli pepper, some bell pepper, 1 spring onion and a touch of salt, garlic and pepper all thrown into it, no bread, no condiments.

I'm just playing around with things at the moment, going to have another week of experimenting with foods, fasting, training etc. to see what fits me best.

Why so much whey?

^ how about throwing in some egg whites and avocados get rid of all that powder. Get liquid egg whites, theyre pasturized so you can drink they raw and still absorb nutrients. 1/2 your whey intake. 8oz of egg whites mixed with 1 scoop of chocolate whey. Much better nutrient profile.

I was more thinking that:

1) it's pretty expensive and not necessary
2) size/strength gains aren't gonna happen in Ketosis (appears he's in that bodybuilding mode)
3) recovery is also severely impaired with the accompanying dehydration making the whey redundant if thats the intent.

If its a cyclical diet... still probably not really useful to eat so much whey unless its during the carb loading phase.

I hate adding lemon to my juices; it has to be done with definite moderation. As far a neutralizers; apples and pears are great for neutralizing the weird tasting things; but kale, bok choy, ginger root and garlic really bring out lots of flavor while hiding things you might not like.


The one in the tulip glass is a Palate Wrecker by Green Flash Brewing Co.; the one behind it in the 4oz taster is a Maracaibo Especial by Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales and the one up front is Hitachino Nest Red Rice Ale by Kiuchi Brewery

Notes taken on the juicing. I quite like lemon or lime juice in water, just something I either read or heard of before, put lemon in to add tartness and reduce some of the stronger flavours (I think it might have been related to wheatgrass juicing). Apple and Pear sounds better though.

Surprised there was no mention of fruit being used in any of those beers, my first thought was "fruit beer? Ummm!".

The Hitachino one sounds really nice. Mentions Sake notes in the finish, love that stuff. They've got a cool website too: http://hitachinonest.com/

That's something else I've been doing when possible, making my own beer. I've only got as far as using pre-prepared wort, or, the malt extract cans so far. Needs a lot more reading and equipment to do an "all grain" beer. It takes a long time aswell, so I now know why craft beer is both worth the money, and what makes it special and different.

SI, plz remind me what your goal is again? what are your stats now? what about before?

:)

I've still got to work that out. I need to buy some scales, and also I'll have to convert my old weight for you from stone to pounds. I was about 12 stone (168lbs), I'm currently (probably) around 15 (210lbs) (maybe more) now. At 6' 3", that probably doesn't sound too bad, but all the extra weight is sitting around the middle.

Visually, I've got the legs of a tour de france guy (used to bike a lot!) so no worries there, My arms are long so they look skinny (wouldn't mind adding some muscle there), and I've got a spare tire where my abs are hiding underneath :1orglaugh.

My goal, is to reduce fat around the middle, lose some weight. Then, maybe work on building more muscle where I want to.

Sound like a good plan from your perspective?

way too much whey? ;) I posted my cutting diet. I'm trying to lose 5-8% body fat without losing muscle. Mostly doing low intensity cardio and will lift heavy short sets 2-3x a week if I have the energy. Just bought another tub of gold standard whey.

so you want to lose ~40 pounds and tone up/gain some musclature. plan seems right to me. you're going to get a more profound fat loss result focusing on diet as opposd to exercise. after you drop a reasonable amount you can ramp up the resistance exercise.

p.s. you will make it much easier on yourself by skipping the beer too. also note, beer = pure carbs, so in addition to added cals, etc, even a small amount of beer will throw a carb focused diet into disarray.

:)

Yeah that sounds about right, I'll see how things go, and keep an eye on things. :)
Just need a few more "tools" like weighing scales, and perhaps a few other things to help with cooking some different meals, and a juicer, then I'll be set.

I only drink low-carb beer at the moment, but I might try and move to drinking only on the "re-fuel" day (Sunday), I'll see how things go! I must have easily cut out 100g carbs today that I would normally eat/drink. I'd still drink beer on top of that tonight aswell.

Tell you what though, drinking only water and green tea has made me strangely active today. Not a buzz or anything, just a constant stream of energy. Could be the fasting as well doing that.