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NETbilling 07-21-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19726520)
So you can't have your own merchant account if not US based? Or is that only for startups?



That $2000... how is that build? What amount of that is for processing fees and what amount for the NetBilling customer service and what exactly is that service and can you choose to use or not use that service?



Well... the saving of $1750 is not much if you consider you have to take care yourself of
handling nats, nats montly fee (which increases when your volume increases) paying affiliates yourself (the time it takes to do so), etc... I'm not sure if i can see the profit... Not trying to break your balls here... I'm very interested in knowing more about this... but i just don't see the big advantage yet.

Thanks a lot for your time and input informing us!

Hi,

We have merchants with merchant accounts all over the world. However, the offshore banks that we place our merchants at typically want 6 months of processing history at least and 10k minimum.

Our customer service is completely optional. NETbilling fees are based on what you want to use that we offer.

The $1750 was just an example. As Beaner has pointed out, having control over many aspects of the processing, forms, tours, cancellation upsells and discounts, etc. can greatly increase your profit and your savings.

I urge you to call and get a walkthrough of our system and get all of your questions answered.

Mitch

NETbilling 07-21-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 19726545)
I would love to use Epoch, but I'm Canadian and they can't work with Canadians.

CCBill added support for Canadians some years ago, I hope that Epoch is also working towards a solution soon.

Does NetBilling process for companies in Canada?

Hi,

We process for many Canadian merchants, who establish and EU or US presence especially.

Mitch

PornDiscounts-V 07-22-2013 07:06 AM

Using NATS to handle the cascade and using it for reporting will help you to find inefficiency and deficiency in your program. The rolls are great for affiliates. You can have ccbill affiliates still get paid via ccbill should they choose to.

SwirlsGirl 07-22-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19726563)
Here is a chart, one of my sites. Months were from March of 2010 to January of 2012. I didn't keep the chart going because the site leveled out to this day. This was a site billing on a third party biller, switching to merchant account, using whatever techniques I thought appropriate. Notice the few months downward spiral prior to merchant account, this was a dying site.

http://www.judoporn.com/images/merchantchart.jpg

Now if you think your site might be stuck in stages 7 through 11 and want to step it up, I will certainly, at the very least, give some pointers.

I am at a stage where I have seen the power of billing, and when setup properly, it can literally change your business and your life. Please keep in mind... it is not as simple as setting up a merchant account. It is every facet of billing, re-billing, emailing, what your are selling, how you are selling, what your pages look like, where those pages are located, etc. etc.

I am focusing on everything that relates to those final steps to making the sale. Just wanted to provide a graph of what *YOUR* site sales could look like when done right.

p.s. I'm not talking directly at *YOU*... you as, in general. You are just asking the questions ;)

WOW! Those numbers on that graph speak volumes!

I suppose for many its hard to fathom such a *HUGE* increase in revenue simply by replacing inefficient billing with real billing suited to benefit the actual *individual* merchant.

Great stuff Beaner!

Hopefully many will be emailing you to take advantage of this opportunity!

HelmutKohl 07-22-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 19724966)
Unless you are very small volume, why would you not get your own merchant account?

To avoid having my Credit History destroyed if things go bad, does TMF sound familiar to anybody? Risk it too high and the record will stay with your name for LOOONG TIME! :helpme

2MuchMark 07-22-2013 01:21 PM

CCBill, Epoch, Netbilling, Segpay etc are all excellent. We're lucky enough to work with all of them and the reps of each company are not only professional but have gone out of their way to help us.

Regardless of who you move to, never burn any bridges.

deltav 07-22-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HelmutKohl (Post 19727565)
To avoid having my Credit History destroyed if things go bad, does TMF sound familiar to anybody? Risk it too high and the record will stay with your name for LOOONG TIME! :helpme

How would your credit history be destroyed through payment processing, I'm not totally clear on this?

NETbilling 07-22-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelmutKohl (Post 19727565)
To avoid having my Credit History destroyed if things go bad, does TMF sound familiar to anybody? Risk it too high and the record will stay with your name for LOOONG TIME! :helpme

The rules are the same with or without a merchant account. You can get on MATCH regardless of using 3rd party or having your own merchant account. The key is to run and honest business that doesn't rip off the surfers and have a processor behind you that gives you all of the oils you need to be successful and minimize fraud.

NETbilling 07-22-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19727579)
CCBill, Epoch, Netbilling, Segpay etc are all excellent. We're lucky enough to work with all of them and the reps of each company are not only professional but have gone out of their way to help us.

Regardless of who you move to, never burn any bridges.

Thanks Mark - looking forward to seeing you in Montreal

SpeedoDave 07-23-2013 04:59 AM

I've run them both since 2005.

I'll change them around but try and keep them at about 50/50 each. I was around for the Globill collapse and that sucked so I don't want all my cookies in the same jar.


Dave

Evil Chris 07-23-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19725597)
Yeah, then you add another company, another system, another product to deal with. There's something to be said for minimizing the # of external companies you rely on to do something as essential as processing payments.

Good point. Email sent.


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